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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    All cash money is backed by some bank as an IOU to trading people.

    It is worthless in a crash as in Africa when they had wheelbarrows of cash money to buy food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,122 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Stheno wrote: »
    Sweet suffering God

    I've just seen the sky news article in the hospital

    God love them

    Who


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,044 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    South Korea 157 new cases yesterday


    #stop!yourgoingthewrongway

    Are we modelling our plan on there, that is still high no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    martco wrote: »
    sorry re-posting this as it got a bit lost in the ocean of chat earlier no answers....

    I'm wondering does anyone know the ballpark turnaround times for testing??
    5 days now and still no HSE callback to come to test, anyone know the craic pls?

    My sister was diagnosed + referred by GP on Monday morning so nearly 5 days now
    apparently as a priority case as there's a child with Down Syndrome (immuno-comprimised) in the house
    she's worse now but holding steady at moment
    there are 5 of them in lockdown in the house, Dun Laoghaire area

    still no HSE call to test

    I doublechecked with GP the referral was done

    Can anyone give me a steer on the testing timeframes at the moment please? I'm starting to wonder whats going on??

    thanks

    Sorry to hear about your difficulty.

    This thread is moving so fast things get overlooked.

    I'd say you will be better going through more official and informed channels of information.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Are dead bodies of victims still contagious?


    NOW THEN , NOW THEN , NOW THEN ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's called helicopter money. It is an alternative to quantitive easing. Interest rates are rock bottom so QE isn't an option.
    Handing people money and having them spend it will keep businesses moving, manufacturers producing and people in jobs.

    Hong Kong have already carried this out and the Us is strongly considering it .

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/helicopter-money-a-direct-economic-shot-in-the-arm-for-all-citizens-1.4202171?mode=amp
    The probable flaw to the boost in economic activity thesis is the human instinct towards hording of the windfall till things return to normal, or else stashing for the really rain day perceived to be just over the horizon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭jbt123


    gmisk wrote: »
    The WHO say it isn't who would you believe?

    We won't get fooled again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Why do we all need to work so??

    Just hand out money every now and then.

    But the money has to come from some sort of activity. Its not free. The concept of free money only really exists with the crypto currencies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    video from inside italy hospital looks scary

    https://vimeo.com/398334975
    Note:
    - mostly men
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 C55


    niallo27 wrote: »
    All these people complaining about people not staying at home, how the **** do you know this if your stuck at home and not out and about.
    I’m sure they can see them through the window in their houses, or from their gardens, from their cars or from their walks alone. I’ve a lot of time on my hands to see them as I am temporarily laid off because of this crisis. Which part of stay at home do people not understand? I hated being at work these last few days as we were in close contact with the public for non essential hospitality so I’m glad we shut the doors. I’m not so ecstatic about the €203 funding per week but sure it’s better than nothing I guess! I’d prefer to stay inside as much as possible for 3 months if needs be then to risk my health or worse my loved ones. In fact I’d hate to infect anyone at all strange as it might seem to some people... I can understand people acting out if this goes on indefinitely but for some people to totally disregard the extraordinary measures we have been forced to implement is actually mind boggling. This is not a whim of our government saying we will tell them what to do we are in charge, it is potentially life saving advice. Kids were kids back in my day as well which wasn’t a million years ago but I would have gotten a swift kick up the backside if I couldn’t obey these restrictions for at least a few weeks. It’s just a week since school closed hardly enough time to be sick of tv, internet etc if they are keeping up with their schoolwork during the day. The people working for the essential services especially those on the frontline should be awarded for their bravery once this is all over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,503 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but heard that the office of either the Taoiseach or Tanaiste ordered all civil servants to work with no preparations in place for dealing with covid-19. I was informed that anybody in the high risk category is excused but those with high risk family members residing with them, whether they be children or older relatives, have to go to work in an unsafe environment.
    How can this be happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    But the money has to come from some sort of activity. Its not free. The concept of free money only really exists with the crypto currencies.
    You have it backwards. Crypto is proof of work. Fiat like £$€ is just printed out of thin air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Note:
    - mostly men
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell

    There seems to be suggestions that CV is hitting men much worse than women (something to do with their respective immune systems).

    I've heard a theory that many of those who passed away in Italy were indeed heavy smokers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,044 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Actually felt my heart rate go up reading that article.

    I fear an heart attack might take me out over the virus, my anixety and stress levels are high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    This is going to have untold mental health issues worldwide .

    Death of loved ones without funerals, isolation, loss of jobs, debt.... the list is endless.

    The longer this goes on the bigger these issues will become . Its like something out of a move only less believable.

    Take care of one another folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Please tell me you're joking?

    Paper cash is just a receipt of what you have in your bank account no more. The important tradable item is not the physical cash its whats in your bank account.

    I should also have mentioned forged money, that would be eliminated too.

    I guess you like to flash the cash Tony? Show them you mean business.

    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,447 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Just watched the excellent Sky News report from inside the hospital at Bergamo in Lombardy, a horrifying sight of patients crammed in wearing oxygen helmets and masks, the conversion rate to pneumonia in sufferers at a bewildering level. Senior medics saying they've never been so stressed in their working lives, knowing that their best efforts are no longer enough. In that location half are recovering, half are dying. Hundreds each day.

    They call it 'apocalisse', the apocalypse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I fear an heart attack might take me out over the virus, my anixety and stress levels are high

    Ok, well you need to start taking action to prevent this. Get off this thread, get some fresh air, stop reading the news. It's our own responsibility to look after ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Strazdas wrote: »
    There seems to be suggestions that CV is hitting men much worse than women (something to do with their respective immune systems).

    I've heard a theory that many of those who passed away in Italy were indeed heavy smokers.
    The thing that looks dodgy about the video is that they are not laying on their stomachs which increases the survival rate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

    Yes absolutely. I think more of this footage should be played. Some still people don’t understand how serious this is.

    I’m hearing people saying “just wash hands”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Note:
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell
    Maybe you have some Sherlock Holmes skills to tell those people are smokers and you aren't just talking out your ass, but very few of them looked like they could be over 70.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D

    You didn't understand him at all.

    100 Euro cash is just a way of accounting for part of your worth. The same as 100 Euro in numbers in your bank balance.

    He can give you that 100 Euro note. By handing it to you, you now have the 100 Euro added to your net worth. But that is the same, conceptually, as "transferring" that electronically to your "screen"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D

    It originates from your bank account.
    Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The modern equivalent of that is stashing non-fiat across many electronic platforms, the idea being that they'll hardly all fail at the same time. Not sure there's much guarantee of that being true anymore though.

    I do not know. What you are talking about is rather speculation. I do not know of anyone who will put all his eggs in crypto basket. It is way too volatile. Good to make money but you may also lose your pants in a process.
    To me the modern equivalent is rather gold and silver - look at all the central banks recently buying as much as they could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    There is zero reason to think it will not.

    We have to hope otherwise. That scenario, here, is catastrophic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I work in an office with 10 other people. Is two meters really much use in an office when you are sat there all day beside people. We are about the 2m apart. I'm not really convinced its safe when we are all sat there for the day breathing the same air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Just watched the excellent Sky News report from inside the hospital at Bergamo in Lombardy, a horrifying sight of patients crammed in wearing oxygen helmets and masks, the conversion rate to pneumonia in sufferers at a bewildering level. Senior medics saying they've never been so stressed in their working lives, knowing that their best efforts are no longer enough. In that location half are recovering, half are dying. Hundreds each day.

    They call it 'apocalisse', the apocalypse.

    Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It originates from your bank account.
    Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.

    Nope. Not all cash comes from bank account. Bank account is a way to send or park their money for people and not a place of origin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    This is going to have untold mental health issues worldwide .

    Death of loved ones without funerals, isolation, loss of jobs, debt.... the list is endless.

    The longer this goes on the bigger these issues will become . Its like something out of a move only less believable.

    Take care of one another folks

    mental health has always been the poorer cousin of physical health

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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