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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3812
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    vladmydad wrote: »
    The 1930’s

    is that why they call this a novel virus? Because it was around in the 1930s?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3813
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Galway promenade pretty busy today. A lot of people not heeding advice. I think we should shut the place down. It'll save a lot of lives


  • #3814
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    I've been on boards catch-up since 10 am this morning. Finally caught up at 11.40 pm but Mr. Pino Grigio is gonna make me do it all again tomorrow. Stay safe everyone.


  • #3815
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That sky news article esp the vidoo is something that people need to watch
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1240781787976085506?s=20

    Read that article omg it’s dreadful.


  • #3816
    dePeatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Its really going to take off there. Cv loves liberal democracies. You will see gun sales go up as usual. And perhaps social order disintegrate.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/us-sales-guns-ammunition-soar-amid-coronavirus-panic-buying


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  • #3817
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    I think most of the medics infected had nothing to do with their job.
    Yeah Tony made it out today like they'd all just come sauntering back from their holibobs with coronavirus.


  • #3818
    vladmydad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    IamtheWalrus wrote: »
    I had thought this. But why is the WHO so alarmed if it's a relatively harmless virus.

    Because it’s not harmless to vulnerable people but we cannot shut down the world for a year... can we ?


  • #3819
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    No.

    Tell that to the Chinese doctor carrying out autopsys (the only one I believe) ...he described it as going into a nuclear radiation zone....


    course we're assuming the bod who asked the question here is not planning on going in with a scalpel


  • #3820
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    We could go cashless in a couple of weeks if people changed their habits. It would be far preferable from a hygiene perspective and also reduce robberies of shops, post offices and the like.

    Its just a case of educating older people on how to use their card in a shop. Very basic. I personally never carry cash.

    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.


  • #3821
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I keep saying it, the government (western governments) have a few weeks tops to play with here. After that people will seriously start getting aggravated. Also an economic cost benefit analysis will have to be made soon. We cannot shut down 82% of the economy for long. Don’t mean to be insensitive but the virus is harmless to 96% of us. The only long term solution, until next years vaccine is ready, is getting back to normal whilst maintaining self isolation for vulnerable people, getting more ICU beds, ventilators and trying existing medications (chloroquine, favipiravir, remdesivir). More people will be harmed by an economic depression than Coronavirus.
    I agree with this view. It's like you want to get rid of moles in your garden then you drop a nuclear bomb on it and wonder why you have nothing there but just a crater and some melted glass.
    They should have taken a different approach.


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  • #3822
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    is that why they call this a novel virus? Because it was around in the 1930s?
    cf Latin novus


  • #3823
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,043 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That sky news article esp the vidoo is something that people need to watch
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1240781787976085506?s=20

    OMG :eek::( I need a panic room and xanax
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #3824
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The scientist (Dr Marr) who criticized the lab conditions was the person who said the chances of catching it this way unless you were very near an infected person was very low.
    Very low through aerosol transmission (except for if they sneeze or cough, which propels droplets at you. The droplets also land on objects and skin which can then be transferred via touch to the eyes, nose and mouth. They said the virus can likely survive more easily and longer with assistance from bodily fluids like saliva and mucus.


  • #3825
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    bekker wrote: »
    cf Latin novus

    What's this? Something novel made up by you?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3826
    Muir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Muir


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    Ok, don't ridicule this idea but seeing as we're hoping that older people will cocoon themselves, is there any such thing as a phone number that they can ring for a chat or something if they are lonely, particularly older people without family?

    We have Senior Line


  • #3827
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.
    There are currencies with a private blockchain and coin-tumblers. You can have the digital equivalent of cash but banks probably won't do it because of KYS or whatever.


  • #3828
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.

    Depends on the bank. I don't get charged for any transactions whereas there is a 12c tax on ATM withdrawals.


  • #3829
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Because it’s not harmless to vulnerable people but we cannot shut down the world for a year... can we ?


    This is the UK model after they switched to supression:
    506275.JPG

    Current UK policy is a series of gradual relaxations and then clamping down again . So basically shutdown 2/3 of the time for the next 2 years, but with short periods in between.


  • #3830
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Request: Could all of those who are so selflessly concerned about the economy and other people's finances please post in 'Are we better off getting it now and out of the way?' https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062887


  • #3831
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    IamtheWalrus wrote: »
    I had thought this. But why is the WHO so alarmed if it's a relatively harmless virus.

    Because it is 'relatively ' harmless under normal circumstances . Because it is so infectious it means the circumstances change and hospitals are overwhelmed and rather than 1% of patients dying like in South Korea you get 4-9% of patients dying in Italy and Spain. And that is no bueno


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  • #3832
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    What's this? Something novel made up by you?
    A hint that you try a bit of research. In all areas.


  • #3833
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.

    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.


  • #3834
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,043 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A lot of older people have no cards, save at home, or in the credit union or post office book, use only cash

    I think all banks have charges too, transaction fees etc.,
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #3835
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Tony EH wrote: »
    You own your money.
    More like the central bank owns it. For example in India they banned the 20 note and everyone who had it stashed got their money cancelled.


  • #3836
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Axel Square Simulator wrote: »
    Very low through aerosol transmission (except for if they sneeze or cough, which propels droplets at you. The droplets also land on objects and skin which can then be transferred via touch to the eyes, nose and mouth. They said the virus can likely survive more easily and longer with assistance from bodily fluids like saliva and mucus.

    Thought her analogy of being able to smell somebodys exhaled cigarette smoke or ‘seeing’ condensed breath was good as an indicator. As ever, keep your distance from others is the rule still.


  • #3837
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Axel Square Simulator wrote: »
    Yeah Tony made it out today like they'd all just come sauntering back from their holibobs with coronavirus.

    That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    The first in South was a Doctor returned to Ireland from holiday.


  • #3838
    Sofiztikated
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    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Depends on the bank. I don't get charged for any transactions whereas there is a 12c tax on ATM withdrawals.

    It also costs more for businesses to lodge and order change from banks than the equivalent in card fees.


  • #3839
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That sky news article esp the vidoo is something that people need to watch
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1240781787976085506?s=20

    I'd imagine under normal circumstances that's is a well resourced sophisticated hospital.

    Worrying.


  • #3840
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    PCI compliance requires credit card machines, say from Ingenico. This is so they don't send un-encrypted card numbers over a wire which allows for say malware skimming numbers.
    Most of these credit card machines have contactless built into hardware for maybe a decade now.

    I agree re contactless, most shops have them now.
    There's no real impediment to a cashless society, particurly when shopping. The benefits of going cashless far outweigh the costs. Not saying robberies would be reduced as you'd still have cyber crime but you'd no longer have atm machine robberies or similar and the huge costs around moving cash you have currently. Also criminal financial transactions are harder to trace when cash only is used.


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  • #3841
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    Please send me your screen digits.


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