CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Nermal · 18-03-2020 03:05PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Big increase in Taiwan today, +23 to 100 cases in total

wakka12 wrote: »

Biggest jump in Singapore in a while , nearly 30 new cases.

Suppression is not a solution.

Naggdefy · 18-03-2020 03:06PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

Isn't **** in isolation allowed in Spain?

lak · 18-03-2020 03:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, I don't "basically want to" do that. Can you read? Those in high-risk categories would be placed in effective quarantine - elderly, asmathic, immune-comprimised etc. It will be a large number of people.

Where would they put half a million people who might need emergency treatment at any moment.

Hamsterchops · 18-03-2020 03:08PM

lak wrote: »

They'll do what they always do, wait till England tell them what to do.

That's not true. Devolved assemblies are free to make their own decisions, hence Scotland & Wales have already named Friday as school closure day, and I suspect NI will follow hot on their heels.

Don't know when the English schools will close?

el Fenomeno · 18-03-2020 03:08PM

I assume this mortgage repayments deferral/holiday or whatever is most appropriate to call it isn't a blanket thing. They'll only allow it to people who can prove they can't repay currently due to loss of employment or income, right?

Funkfield · 18-03-2020 03:09PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Isn't **** in isolation allowed in Spain?

You're thinking of paella, not ****

whisky_galore · 18-03-2020 03:11PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Whats the story with hotter countries, like Nigeria, India ... they don't seem to have that many cases, I know they wouldn't be testing much, but it's about a month since the 1st official case appeared in Nigeria - surely there would be some unexplained deaths - from flu like illnesses that would make them test more ?

Or could it be the heat here making it less transmissible ?

I suspect with Africa at any rate, on average people aren't as long lived as in Europe, Asia or North America. The vulnerable demographic are killed off by poor nutrition and harsh living conditions.

Cw85 · 18-03-2020 03:13PM

Correct, only those affected. I'm sure most who are still working and earning a wage would be happy to continue on paying rather than delaying.

Rob A. Bank · 18-03-2020 03:14PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

staged clampdown, to "flatten the curve"

basically the idea is , you clamp down HARD , to prevent the peak.

Then give folks a chance to go out and get supplies etc for a few days -ease off for a few days.

Then clamp down hard again.

This 'staged clampdown' crap came from the same 'modeling' which produced the 'herd immunity' discredited nonsense ?

The notion that you can control the exponential spread of a new virus, seems to me like wishful thinking. So much is still unknown about this virus, not to mention what may happen if there are mutations.

Tell me how · 18-03-2020 03:14PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Whats the story with hotter countries, like Nigeria, India ... they don't seem to have that many cases, I know they wouldn't be testing much, but it's about a month since the 1st official case appeared in Nigeria - surely there would be some unexplained deaths - from flu like illnesses that would make them test more ?

Or could it be the heat here making it less transmissible ?

I fear that testing and reporting in some countries is quite a bit off from what it should be.

Tony EH · 18-03-2020 03:16PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

Hector Savage wrote: »

:D:D:D that should say WALK !!!

But now we all know what you're really thinking of. :pac:

kevcos · 18-03-2020 03:17PM

The one of the worst symptoms of Covid19 is finding yourself repeatably returning to this thread reading absolute horse sh!te.

I'm simultaneously wondering if I should increase or reduce my anxiety level on the opinion of internet strangers.

Anyway, see you all after Coronation street xox.

bekker · 18-03-2020 03:18PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

That's not true. Devolved assemblies are free to make their own decisions, hence Scotland & Wales have already named Friday as school closure day, and I suspect NI will follow hot on their heels.

Don't know when the English schools will close?

Not exactly correct, once block grant is allocated from central government it's true regional assemblies have control over it.

But for example, if the Executive in the North were to decide to close the schools they would have to pay teachers salaries, and all other consequential cost from the existing block grant.

If is is a decision of central government to close then it would be funded separately from the block grant.

Hrududu · 18-03-2020 03:19PM

Sorry this is no useful addition to the thread but I'm still laughing at the post where the guy was hoping that the testers were disinfecting between testing people.

"Eh Brian, do you think we should be washing our hands between tests? No me neither"

Thanks for cheering me up.

Ulysses Gaze · 18-03-2020 03:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, I don't "basically want to" do that. Can you read? Those in high-risk categories would be placed in effective quarantine - elderly, asmathic, immune-comprimised etc. It will be a large number of people.

How long for?

pjohnson · 18-03-2020 03:21PM

kevcos wrote: »

The one of the worst symptoms of Covid19 is finding yourself repeatably returning to this thread reading absolute horse sh!te.

I'm simultaneously wondering if I should increase or reduce my anxiety level on the opinion of internet strangers.

Anyway, see you all after Coronation street xox.

Hector reccomends a **** anyway. Might reduce anxiety.

4068ac1elhodqr · 18-03-2020 03:22PM

Blood groups?

People with blood type A might be more vulnerable to the coronavirus, while those with type O blood could be more resistant, (well according to a {small} preliminary study from China)
Type O patients, meanwhile, made up a smaller proportion of both those infected, and killed by the virus.

The sample group was early/small, might be more useful to obtain the latest stats from somewhere on the 200k confirmed cases that are having issues.

Not sure about Rhesus factors, only 15% of folks are 'Rh-negative'.
The Rh-negatives (according to some old folklore) are a 'bit special', but best to view that with a grain or 23, of salt.

Ulysses Gaze · 18-03-2020 03:23PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Herd immunity only works if vast majority are immune or vaccinated. No evidence it works when no one is.

Herd Immunity is playing Russian Roulette.

4068ac1elhodqr · 18-03-2020 03:23PM

kevcos wrote: »

Anyway, see you all after Coronation street xox.

Not for long, all those clap-trap, shouty-shouty, shows are to be cancelled.
Even virtual charachters can catch the flu

Expect to see a sudden surge in optimism (esp once EastEnders gets removed from the airwaves), hopefully for months, and months.

gabeeg · 18-03-2020 03:24PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Herd Immunity is playing Russian Roulette.

"OK Everybodies, I'm wanting you to come outs of your houshes now if you are being 30 years old or lessh"

*Millions of young people emerge from isolation. The virus spreads. The health system is crippled. Many young people are left with long term damage. A few die.*

"Fantashtic work guysh! OK, now lets be seeing all you 30 to 40 year olds!"

It's never going to ****ing work.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 18-03-2020 03:25PM

Hrududu wrote: »

Sorry this is no useful addition to the thread but I'm still laughing at the post where the guy was hoping that the testers were disinfecting between testing people.

"Eh Brian, do you think we should be washing our hands between tests? No me neither"

Thanks for cheering me up.

I wouldn't be surprised if the person who wrote that was the same person referred to earlier by another poster as posting on facebook that those on the dole should get a Covid 19 bonus so that they can by more beer fags toys to keep their children entertained.

wazzer1 · 18-03-2020 03:26PM

Cw85 wrote: »

Correct, only those affected. I'm sure most who are still working and earning a wage would be happy to continue on paying rather than delaying.

Any idea about people with working hours reduced?

Cee-Jay-Cee · 18-03-2020 03:27PM

wazzer1 wrote: »

Any idea about people with working hours reduced?

If you are on reduced hours and therefore reduced pay then yes it applies to you so talk to your bank.

Ger Roe · 18-03-2020 03:27PM

ax530 wrote: »

at what stage did you call the Dr to arrange test for your daughter ?
I have noticed mine coughing a lot today sounds like a dry cough she is not complaining actually does not seem to realise she is coughing. We have been at home since last Thursday so basically in self isolation but I was not planning on calling the Dr unless she feels unwell is that the right thing to do ?

Call the doctor and let him/her decide what to do or what advice to offer. Don't look for medical advice here.

joeguevara · 18-03-2020 03:28PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

This 'staged clampdown' crap came from the same 'modeling' which produced the 'herd immunity' discredited nonsense ?

The notion that you can control the exponential spread of a new virus, seems to me like wishful thinking. So much is still unknown about this virus, not to mention what may happen if there are mutations.

Also without knowing if there are issues for people who get it, means it’s a bad idea to allow mass infection.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 18-03-2020 03:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Herd immunity has been suspended because most experts are in the pocket of big pharma. They want us to sit around for 18 months so none of us have any immunity to it and then they'll sell their vaccine to the entire planet.

Unchecked, 10% of positive tests require hospitalisation. Actual numbers of infected are believed to be at least 15x higher than positive tests.

So 0.6% of infected require hospitalization. We can identify most of those - elderly, diabetes etc. Put these people in very effective isolation and you can easily reduce the amount of people requiring hospitalisation 10-fold.

Then you let the virus run through the population, 0.06% of infected will require hospitalisation. It won't be all at once, most will recover quickly, we can handle that. 99.94% of infected will get no worse than a flu.

In 6 months time most of us will have caught it. A test to identify if you are immune and non-spreading will be over-the-counter, cheap and widely available. You can begin lifting the isolation one group at a time. They will still need to practice social distancing but their family members can all get a test to see if they are immune and non-spreading. We can wear colored badges to notify others that we are immune.

So most coming out of isolation will not get it. The damage to the economy and daily life will be minimal.

Sorry now like but your figures are based on absolutely nothing.

Cw85 · 18-03-2020 03:28PM

Yes, you can fill out the Covid-19 form and send it off, it's free post to a PO BOX number, it has the option to fill in loss of hours

Humberto Salazar · 18-03-2020 03:30PM

Oil prices down to mid twenties a barrel. Could go below 20 dollars for the first time in decades soon. Cheaper diesel petrol and home heating at least.

18-03-2020 03:30PM

plodder wrote: »

The text of what the Dutch PM said in announcing the policy is at the link below:

Seems like they are aiming for a middle path between letting it run unchecked and "endlessly trying to stop it" while assuming that their health system can cope with the path they have chosen.

No idea whether it is the right decision, but it does explain why different countries are taking slightly different paths, based on the perceived strength and resilience of their healthcare systems.

This is the approach that makes the most sense to me. It’s all very well locking people in, and trying to completely stop the spread. But what when the lockdown gets released? The virus just bounces straight back.

A lockdown can’t be maintained forever, and this might not subside around the world for months. And it isn’t reasonable to lock people in until a vaccine arrives.....which could be months or years.

It seems no more reckless to me to try to let the virus run its course in a managed way, than to lock everyone inside their houses and hope for the best

walshb · 18-03-2020 03:32PM

Are we expecting close to 90 people testing positive today?

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP