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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #1532
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,061 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    219 cases now on Island of Ireland from VM1 news
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1533
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    The UK are a sitting time bomb now. I see their logic but i envisage they will be on full lockdown by the end of the week.


  • #1534
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Would you be fairly sure? Heard rumours of tomorrow at 8am. Just want to be sure transport doesn't shut down so I can make one trip if needed back to Dublin.
    Yeah they are just rumours, but I'd contact whoever provides that transport for peace of mind.


  • #1535
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,773 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do you not remember the riots of 2011.

    Public order is their main concern not public health.

    I made this point a few pages back, I agree they certainly have one eye on Public Order, shutting the schools over there will cause masses of issues that we will not see over here as their scrote ratio is off the charts!


  • #1536
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    megatron989 wrote: »
    Wow we seem to have a whole new group of uninformed to deal with today.
    To all the new posters, maybe read a little more and type a little less. Some of us have been here since the start and tbh we can't be bothered with ya at this stage. Things are 2 serious now for your nonsense.

    Who are you to tell someone not to ask questions. Just because you have been here since the start (a online message board) does not mean you know **** all


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  • #1537
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The only way I can explain the UK strategy is to compare it to fighting forest fires. Maybe this has been said already, apologies if so.

    You have 10,000 trees. The first 2,000 are on fire. (Have the virus). So the firefighters go to around tree 5,000 and they burn that whole section down in a controlled manner. (Allow them to catch the virus). Now when the fire reaches that section it can't spread any further because there's nothing there to burn , (that part of the herd has immunity now) saving the final 5,000 trees.

    Except the UK are talking about people, not f*****ing trees. They are going to let this virus burn through half their population and make some people sick, some people very sick and some people die. And not only that but because they're not enacting measures to slow the spread of this fire, there will far, FAR more people sick at any one time than their health services can cope with which simply means countless people will die who would otherwise not die.

    Yes, no matter what measures are taken some people will lose their lives. That is inevitable. But the UKs strategy is sentencing people to die who DON'T need to die. Even young people, even healthy people can experience complications that can't be treated if there's no room and no equipment and no doctors spare to help them.

    As a firefighter I see the logic unfortunately it has a fatal flaw in that the trees are static and never leave the place there in .


  • #1538
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    :)

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1239533693523419136?s=19


  • #1539
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Even if they were just up the road you can't really look after them without putting them at risk. They are probably best where they are for all the reasons you outlined above.

    My parents are 20 mins away from me and I have to do all my contact now by text, phone and video call. Even if I feel well, I would be putting them at risk if I visit, as I could have it and not even know. :(

    You can call to the house and stand outside the door or window and chat them, or depending on house you could just park car ourside and let down window.


  • #1540
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    spookwoman wrote: »
    New System For Coronavirus Testing Crashes
    https://twitter.com/FM104/status/1239534580568391680?s=20

    Computers have not been obeying the social distancing advice.


  • #1541
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    A very good read about a boy's experience in the Cork polio epedemic of 1956 and the amount of fear it generated. Interesting the various "theories" about its spread and how it could be contained - some echoes of us today:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/polio-the-deadly-summer-of-1956-2117253.html


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  • #1542
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Problem is no matter what they do there is no slowing down with this virus. Chinese tried it right from the start with army on the street and with full might of a police state. It is not working and we simply do not have capacity to deal with it. Neither does any other country. There are waiting lists for every medical procedure and with this virus added to what was overwhelmed medical industry even before this virus emerged future do not look good anyway.

    So while it is popular here to bash UK and Boris they at least did not bombed their economy.

    China have been very successful in their measures. Why are you claiming otherwise?


  • #1543
    Red for Danger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No. In China stocks didn't run dry. In Italy stocks aren't running dry. In Germany, France, Spain, Sweden etc stocks aren't running dry. So why in God's name do you think they will in Ireland? A country of a much lower population density and in a pinch one of the few EU nations that can actually feed ourselves? Oh and in even the heaviest lock down in China and elsewhere people were still allowed to go to the shops, or supplies was delivered to them.

    Seriously, where are people getting this notion? :confused: I can only assume it's the early stages of panic, after the period of denial. The same nonsense that had bogroll fly off the shelves. :rolleyes:

    I specifically said in the last 2 posts ITS NOT ABOUT THE STOCKS RUNNING DRY!!!! Its about people not want to be caught flat footed during the worst few days of the pandemic. And having to go out and do a full family supermarket shopping then


  • #1544
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    scamalert wrote: »
    theres no flat curve scenario in this, how can you not wrap you head around that 3-4 weeks wont make it go away as it will take single case to start over again, people speak about ventilator - check stats on survival once someone is put on one of these it drops to single digits survival, where body either fights or goes into further shut down.


    forget the talks about vaccine it wont happen anytime soon either, so you propose that we tank our economy back to stone age, by trying to close off everything when it will be minutes before it breaks out again.


    im not against putting priority those in actual danger group of age or existing conditions, but majority seem to overcome it with little to none complications.

    That. And simple thing people refuse to realize that no matter what you do everyone will eventually get it. This virus is here to stay like influenza does. We will get different strains every now and then and while there may be some vaccines for some strain of it sometime in the future this can not be eradicated and we will have to learn to live with it.


  • #1545
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Inquitus wrote: »
    This all relies far too heavily on people doing what they are told, which has been shown has not worked from Country to Country since the beginning, only China had the authoritarian powers to put soldiers on the streets and truly shut everything down, everyone else has failed to impress on their populations the importance of following guidance, the Brits being some of the worse for this in the norm as well.


    The UK has plenty of powers regarding army on the street. They serve the monarch and will be on streets to defend the realm before this is over. Come what may.


  • #1546
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The elderly And vulnerable are advised to stay indoors for up to 4 months.

    Do you think they will?
    I'm not saying it won't work, but they are exposed to more risk.


  • #1547
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Computers have not been obeying the social distancing advice.
    Well you can see what COVID-19 does to this place at times! 2500 GPs!


  • #1548
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭amacca


    s982102 wrote: »

    Fourthly, economy in UK will suffer in the long run if they dont put effort into slowing or stopping the spreading as lots of people will die. Doing nothing will not help the economy. It is just simple lazy politics.

    Thats what I think except I dont think its lazy......I think its ideological, they (the powers that be atm) have seized upon this as a perfect opportunity to demonstrate that they can go it alone and that the EU was only holding them back such was the bitterness between the two factions over brexit....this at a time when one would imagine international co-operation after the initial panic phase would be the best strategy.

    I hope they dont fly too close to the sun!


  • #1549
    [Deleted User]
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    Klonker wrote: »
    You can call to the house and stand outside the door or window and chat them, or depending on house you could just park car ourside and let down window.

    Yeah I did that on Friday. Stood a couple of meters from the door and had a chat. Only because I was dropping some stuff off for them that I didn't want them going out to get for themselves. Still felt a little anxious about it though, just because of all the conflicting reports about how far away you really need to be. I'm just trying to play it very very safe when it comes to my parents but will probably call again and do similar if I feel I need to see them in the flesh.

    If there's no big lockdown my dad will be back at work in a week and a half :(


  • #1550
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Computers have not been obeying the social distancing advice.

    They need their McAfee updated to keep away the virus :)


  • #1551
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Biggest jump in Singapore in a while , nearly 30 new cases.

    Cases in Spain now higher than South Korea's at almost 9,000


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  • #1552
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
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    Student nurses are being brought in as part of a recruitment drive to assist qualified nurses. That's a positive step.


  • #1553
    threeball
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    Nermal wrote: »
    UK strategy does involve flattening the curve. It just doesn't involve trying to flatten it to zero, since that's economically destructive and pointless in the long run.

    Too late, the horse has bolted. No restrictions and no counting to see how prevalent the virus is. How do they know the point they need to lockdown if they're not even counting or testing. I would say its prevalent throughout most of the UK at this stage. Heavily urbanised countries will see if spread in faster and the UK is very heavily populated for a small island.


  • #1554
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah I did that on Friday. Stood a couple of meters from the door and had a chat. Only because I was dropping some stuff off for them that I didn't want them going out to get for themselves. Still felt a little anxious about it though, just because of all the conflicting reports about how far away you really need to be. I'm just trying to play it very very safe when it comes to my parents but will probably call again and do similar if I feel I need to see them in the flesh.

    If there's no big lockdown my dad will be back at work in a week and a half :(

    I work in Public Service and so does the girlfriend. Been told we cant take time off (paid) and cant work from home (no laptops)

    We need to leave our son with his grandparents.

    We have no choice.

    Great wee country


  • #1555
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    all about the mane wrote: »
    China have been very successful in their measures. Why are you claiming otherwise?

    What success are you talking about? This?

    Quote from epoch times:

    Well then, if the great Xi has corralled coronavirus, why would his Communist government be shutting down flights and train schedules to the country’s largest urban centers?
    Because that’s what’s happening, according to The Epoch Times, which has led the way in Western media circles with its honest, accurate virus reporting.
    According to the paper, two major cities in Guangdong province recently cancelled most of their flights to Beijing, Shanghai, and Hangzhou, which drew new speculation that the cancellations were in response to the ongoing viral outbreak. Also canceled, according to the paper, were “a large number of passenger train routes” in several large cities around the country.

    While the airlines claimed “public security issues” are what caused the cancellations, as usual there were no further details. That said, state-run media did quote an Air China staffer who said that the cancellations “could be related to coronavirus outbreak.”


  • #1556
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    GDK_11 wrote: »
    As a Brit living in Ireland I definitely feel more comfortable with other the Irish approach, it makes more sense to me. However, there is some logic to the UK approach in my totally uneducated opinion, high risk but really no one will be able to say until this is over.

    There is of course some Brit bashing from certain posters, see them on Brexit, sport, travel etc!

    The approach has some logic to it, politics has no place on here, governments are in unchartered territory and nobody knows for certain what the best approach is, its shocking that posters with a political agenda come on here with government bashing, be it FF, FG, Trump or Brexit - Anybody making tough decisions in these times has my empathy


  • #1557
    Technophobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Markets being thrashed again too..not a surprise I suppose...


  • #1558
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    expectationlost wrote: »
    has his gp advised treatment? you don't have to tell us what that treatment is.

    just paracetamol


  • #1559
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    That. And simple thing people refuse to realize that no matter what you do everyone will eventually get it. This virus is here to stay like influenza does. We will get different strains every now and then and while there may be some vaccines for some strain of it sometime in the future this can not be eradicated and we will have to learn to live with it.

    This ^^

    The number of times I've seen .."when this all blows over....."

    It's NOT going to blow over completely sadly.It will "subside" be "pushed back" but highly likely here to stay...just like seasonal 'flu


  • #1560
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    I work in Public Service and so does the girlfriend. Been told we cant take time off (paid) and cant work from home (no laptops)

    We need to leave our son with his grandparents.

    We have no choice.

    Great wee country

    We have our grandchildren here too . We had them daily for the last few weeks so I am of the opinion that if they have it then its here anyway . Many many people have no choice but to leave kids with grandparents right now


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  • #1561
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    219 cases now on Island of Ireland from VM1 news

    No, 214


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