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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    I know it’s the question on everyone’s lips after last nights Taoiseach address, so I’m gona ask it:

    Why can’t we just kneecap the damn virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    What would a rent freeze mean. Living in the house for free!?? Would we have to pay it back later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Vodkat


    James 007 wrote: »
    Can anyone from HR give me some solid advice here. I am an Environmental Health & Safety (EHS) Specialist in a Pharma Plant. With the Covid-19 outbreak I have been asked to provide 'EHS Leadership' for the facility by working at the site fulltime.

    This changed from a morning conversation that I had with the General Manager, we talked, he said you will be able to work from home, I said yes no problems, but I am not far from the facility so could come in twice a week & rotate my office with our Facilities Dept employee at the facility as the office is quite small.

    All this changed in the afternoon whereby he showed me a presentation from a morning meeting from a 'Global Leader Forum' & it mentioned all essential employees for the running of the facility are required to be on site one being 'EHS Leadership'.

    Guys,
    I am not a member of the Site Leadership Team
    We don't have an EHS Manager on site or an EHS Dept, I am the only person
    I don't make EHS decisions, its always Management

    Really, I am concerned that management seem to want me now to be at the facility full time & perhaps they will be the ones working from home, can anyone give me some solid advice here, thanks.

    I'm getting Deja vu!

    You have 2 options
    1. Take the role they have described and hopefully you will be rewarded in the future.
    2. Tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine and potentially lose your job as you were unwilling to step up to the mark when they needed you.

    But I have a feeling your only looking for one answer to your question.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Looney1 wrote: »
    What would a rent freeze mean. Living in the house for free!?? Would we have to pay it back later

    I don't know, would it be for only those out of work?

    I'm a renter and am so happy I started a new job back in late January. My partner is a chef and is now out of work. I'm lucky to be able to work from home, so should be able to cover our rent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,322 ✭✭✭obi604


    I know it’s the question on everyone’s lips after last nights Taoiseach address, so I’m gona ask it:

    Why can’t we just kneecap the damn virus?


    That’s one of the stupidest and unfunny things I have ever seen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    James 007 wrote: »
    Can anyone from HR give me some solid advice here. I am an Environmental Health & Safety (EHS) Specialist in a Pharma Plant. With the Covid-19 outbreak I have been asked to provide 'EHS Leadership' for the facility by working at the site fulltime.

    This changed from a morning conversation that I had with the General Manager, we talked, he said you will be able to work from home, I said yes no problems, but I am not far from the facility so could come in twice a week & rotate my office with our Facilities Dept employee at the facility as the office is quite small.

    All this changed in the afternoon whereby he showed me a presentation from a morning meeting from a 'Global Leader Forum' & it mentioned all essential employees for the running of the facility are required to be on site one being 'EHS Leadership'.

    Guys,
    I am not a member of the Site Leadership Team
    We don't have an EHS Manager on site or an EHS Dept, I am the only person
    I don't make EHS decisions, its always Management

    Really, I am concerned that management seem to want me now to be at the facility full time & perhaps they will be the ones working from home, can anyone give me some solid advice here, thanks.
    Sounds like you are the only person on the ship with the skills so it's your time to shine.
    Sure, the company doesn't have all their Roles and Titles compliant with whatever but that is an ecumenical matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    obi604 wrote: »
    That’s one of the stupidest and unfunny things I have ever seen.

    Thank you.
    It’s good to know that I have carried out an accurate portrayal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Totally. Leo and Simon have fukked up Royally. Doesn't matter what heroics they perform from here on in. They made a catastrophic mistake from the get go, the results of which will begin to be realised over the next week or two.

    I really hope you are wrong :( my worry for people is the lack of hospital resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    James 007 wrote: »
    Can anyone from HR give me some solid advice here. I am an Environmental Health & Safety (EHS) Specialist in a Pharma Plant. With the Covid-19 outbreak I have been asked to provide 'EHS Leadership' for the facility by working at the site fulltime.

    This changed from a morning conversation that I had with the General Manager, we talked, he said you will be able to work from home, I said yes no problems, but I am not far from the facility so could come in twice a week & rotate my office with our Facilities Dept employee at the facility as the office is quite small.

    All this changed in the afternoon whereby he showed me a presentation from a morning meeting from a 'Global Leader Forum' & it mentioned all essential employees for the running of the facility are required to be on site one being 'EHS Leadership'.

    Guys,
    I am not a member of the Site Leadership Team
    We don't have an EHS Manager on site or an EHS Dept, I am the only person
    I don't make EHS decisions, its always Management

    Really, I am concerned that management seem to want me now to be at the facility full time & perhaps they will be the ones working from home, can anyone give me some solid advice here, thanks.

    Ask to be made the EHS Manager, with commensurate paY and conditions.
    Stick to your original plan of occasional site visits, always being available to visit if necessary and work from home the rest of the time. I would be very disappointed if the management team were not providing “global leadership” by being on site themselves to lead by example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What country is that happening in because it's not Ireland. I'm on the bus to work. It's packed

    Not sure what bus your on, but dublin city is near empty at 8am.

    Very very few people around


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    If China, a country of 1.4billion people has 80,000 cases and seems to have it currently under control (who knows what will happen when they try to revert to normal), why do people think we will have 2 million cases?

    Is that over the next 18 months etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I really hope you are wrong :( my worry for people is the lack of hospital resources.

    Resources are finite. Resourcefulness and dedication are not. The Irish health system is top class for a myriad of reasons. The response that I have seen from the government, my colleagues and hospital management has been northing short of truly terrific. We will optimise our chances in an otherwise very poor situation. This whole country is making a lot of sacrifices in the war against the virus. I know that these sacrifices will be rewarded with preserved human lives.

    Have a good and safe day to all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Not sure what bus your on, but dublin city is near empty at 8am.

    Very very few people around

    On a private bus commuting into Dublin. They are just running 1 instead of the normal 3 buses between 7 am and 7:30 am. Normally 3 full buses with 58 seat capacity. The only bus today has about 20 people onboard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What country is that happening in because it's not Ireland. I'm on the bus to work. It's packed


    Where ?

    Do you have job that you cannot work from home ? Employers are being encouraged to get people to work from home.

    There are unscrupulous and selfish employers who do have these capabilities but cannot see the long term picture, i.e. they will have no workforce very soon if they ignore the advice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Not sure what bus your on, but dublin city is near empty at 8am.

    Very very few people around

    That is simply not true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Happy4all wrote: »
    On a private bus commuting into Dublin. They are just running 1 instead of the normal 3 buses between 7 am and 7:30 am. Normally 3 full buses with 58 seat capacity. The only bus today has about 20 people onboard

    Tells you all you need to know really, bar one or 2 usual roads into the city at Heuston where theres a bit of traffic everywhere else is empty. Never seen the quays so quiet at rush hour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 kathryn1985


    Just walked from ranelagh to harcourt. Very few people around and on bus now. Only myself and two other people on bus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Maybe mentioned before but there is a story of coincidence doing the rounds that in Anzu, northern Italy there is a Basilica which contains the relics of St Corona, a 16 year old girl killed in 165 AD for being a Christian. She is one of the patron saints of plagues and epidemics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    That is simply not true

    Ok, so I've driven through the city in the last half hour and its extremely quiet, the roads are near empty bar 1 or 2 places.

    Its nothing like a normal day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Just walked from ranelagh to harcourt. Very few people around and on bus now. Only myself and two other people on bus

    Probably the only time ever it'll be like that during rush hour for the next while. Its very eerie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    If China, a country of 1.4billion people has 80,000 cases and seems to have it currently under control (who knows what will happen when they try to revert to normal), why do people think we will have 2 million cases?

    Is that over the next 18 months etc?

    Communist country
    People are used of being denied liberties


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Maybe mentioned before but there is a story of coincidence doing the rounds that in Anzu, northern Italy there is a Basilica which contains the relics of St Corona, a 16 year old girl killed in 165 AD for being a Christian. She is one of the patron saints of plagues and epidemics.

    What's the coincidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's the coincidence?

    I presume Italy, st.corona and epidemics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I presume Italy, st.corona and epidemics

    Ah I missed the St Corona bit.. fair enough

    All the same, file under superstition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Happy4all wrote: »
    On a private bus commuting into Dublin. They are just running 1 instead of the normal 3 buses between 7 am and 7:30 am. Normally 3 full buses with 58 seat capacity. The only bus today has about 20 people onboard

    Intel workers bus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Intel workers bus?

    Any Intel bus would surely be going the other way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Ah I missed the St Corona bit.. fair enough

    All the same, file under superstition

    As long as there isn’t mass gatherings to pray for help we are ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    joeguevara wrote: »
    As long as there isn’t mass gatherings to pray for help we are ok.

    I wouldn't rule that out at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Any Intel bus would surely be going the other way!

    There is a few that run Midlands to leixlip (pretty much Dublin)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    There is a few that run Midlands to leixlip (pretty much Dublin)

    Eh.. no. Leixlip isn’t pretty much Dublin

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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