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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • #3692
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,610 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Im not saying what will happen I'm saying what should happen.

    You are right about the player. It's a mess and needs to be sorted.

    Your point about services for US and AUS also has merit. I have often thought there should be a market for Irish programming in those territories.

    Neither of these address the core issue of a Public Broadcasting Service for the island of Ireland. I believe we need a good PBS and don't think it should be left to market forces to provide same.

    I fear in all this debate about salaries, contracts etc, that we are in danger of throwing out the baby with the bath water. One day we might look up from our phones and find that we have lost something precious.


  • #3693
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    elperello wrote: »
    You are right about the player. It's a mess and needs to be sorted.

    Your point about services for US and AUS also has merit. I have often thought there should be a market for Irish programming in those territories.

    Neither of these address the core issue of a Public Broadcasting Service for the island of Ireland. I believe we need a good PBS and don't think it should be left to market forces to provide same.

    I fear in all this debate about salaries, contracts etc, that we are in danger of throwing out the baby with the bath water. One day we might look up from our phones and find that we have lost something precious.

    Access to porn?


  • #3694
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

    Replace the license with a subscription, make the player somewhat decent, and they would actually make money. There are Irish people in Australia who would subscribe. There are Irish Americans in the USA who would subscribe.

    i dont think that many would stick around after the first month. why would they . its 95% imported (easily viewed else where) , repeats of imports or pure rubbish and worse of all repeats of repeats of said rubbish
    i dont think that 5% would be worth buying


  • #3695
    EmptyTree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

    This. It always amazes me how they're perfectly well able to show you the ads in stunning HD, but try to watch a programme and you'd swear you were trying to get the signal through a set of rabbits ears.


  • #3696
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

    Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

    Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

    Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ, glad to see the corrupt in RTÉ stihigh


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  • #3697
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,337 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

    Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

    Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

    Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ, glad to see the corrupt in RTÉ stihigh

    Now to be rolled out to every program and paraded around the place


  • #3698
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

    Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

    Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

    Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ

    You'd think so, but Aidan O'Mahony's win on the show was meant to start a career. Didn't pan out.
    Mairead Ronan's married to a flipping Millionaire.. her career isn't panning out either. Radio, and that's it.

    Lottie was hosting the spin-off show last year, was in the show this year.
    If her failure on radio is anything to go by, she's not gonna connect on TV either.

    But yeah, anyone who thought she would 'lose' the show, didn't go into their local supermarket in the last week or so, and see her face on EVERY flipping IRish magazine, knew it was gonna be a fix.


  • #3699
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    You'd think so, but Aidan O'Mahony's win on the show was meant to start a career. Didn't pan out.
    Mairead Ronan's married to a flipping Millionaire.. her career isn't panning out either. Radio, and that's it.

    Lottie was hosting the spin-off show last year, was in the show this year.
    If her failure on radio is anything to go by, she's not gonna connect on TV either.

    But yeah, anyone who thought she would 'lose' the show, didn't go into their local supermarket in the last week or so, and see her face on EVERY flipping IRish magazine, knew it was gonna be a fix.

    She is f**king awful and if it’s mentioned one more time about working on the set of “the good wife”

    RTÉ pushing her big time, just because of daddy, not because of any talent


  • #3700
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    She is f**king awful and if it’s mentioned one more time about working on the set of “the good wife”

    RTÉ pushing her big time, just because of daddy, not because of any talent

    She'll get a tiny bit of attention. But just like Mairead Ronan showed, if you don't have talent... you're not getting many gigs.

    Even when Muireann O'Connell lost her gig on Today FM to Mairead Ronan, she picked up another gig not long after on a rugby show. (Tho with no rugby to show, that's gonna be a rough time).

    Lottie is awful-it's why she never gotten any gig outside of the ten minute 'entertainment' section.

    They always push his kids... never mention all the lives he ruined with his 'habit'.


  • #3701
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,337 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    After a few weeks of lockdown when the advertising is almost nonexistant will they be laying people off like lots of other business or asking for a bailout


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  • #3702
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    i dont think that many would stick around after the first month. why would they . its 95% imported (easily viewed else where) , repeats of imports or pure rubbish and worse of all repeats of repeats of said rubbish
    i dont think that 5% would be worth buying

    After following this, and other, threads for a good few months, I've come to the conclusion that there is merit in having public service broadcasting, and that there are some things that rte does well (if not always cost effectively). It seems to me that it should be decided what should be public service broadcasting, and that should be ring fenced. The PSB should be consolidated into one channel (assume rte 1 and radio 1) which is funded by the licence fee and some advertising. All the commercial stuff can be put out on the other stations and be allowed to sink or swim with no licence fee funding.


  • #3703
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,458 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what the private sector staff are facing (AGAIN) and the Montrose millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !


  • #3704
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what kevate sector staff are facing get again and the mom tries millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !

    Fewer programmes, and no PSB services that many would missed even if you wouldn't.

    Look at Virgin Media TV, Daytime TV with one Current Affairs programme and some Sport, their drama is almost entirely supported by the licence fee and/or Channel 5 UK.

    I agree that RTÉ is badly run and needs to change and that they clearly are not changing in anyway but there are a list of services that they provide that the indo sector just won't touch with a barge poll.


  • #3705
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,337 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Virgin media get nothing from the licence fee


  • #3706
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,566 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what the private sector staff are facing (AGAIN) and the Montrose millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !

    so most likely, we will end up with no current affairs or other psb output, the stuff rte actually does well.
    after all, if you want them to survive on adds only, the more expensive stuff will have to go, and it will just be another commercial channel full of fluff only as that is what makes money.
    oh and by the way, the beauty and ironic thing is that you would still likely be paying some sort of tv tax.
    oh dear, you really haven't thought this through, again.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #3707
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,458 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    end of the road wrote: »
    so most likely, we will end up with no current affairs or other psb output, the stuff rte actually does well.
    after all, if you want them to survive on adds only, the more expensive stuff will have to go, and it will just be another commercial channel full of fluff only as that is what makes money.
    oh and by the way, the beauty and ironic thing is that you would still likely be paying some sort of tv tax.
    oh dear, you really haven't thought this through, again.

    of course they would still do their current affairs etc. Its these shows that are the institution etc, not the likes of Tubridy etc :rolleyes: there is no need to pay them mad money, the shows are giving them the platform to show case themselves, whichever uk politician mentioned this about the bbc presenters, hit the nail on the head...


  • #3708
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,566 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    of course they would still do their current affairs etc. Its these shows that are the institution etc, not the likes of Tubridy etc there is no need to pay them mad money, the shows are giving them the platform to show case themselves, whichever uk politician mentioned this about the bbc presenters, hit the nail on the head...

    yeah, i'm sure they would continue to do the probably more expensive current affairs output from just adds alone. :LOL.
    i couldn't care about some nonsense some uk politician, no doubt with some agenda, says about people in the bbc who are no doubt doing what they are perfectly entitled to do and should be perfectly entitled to do, and would be in any other organisation i would expect.
    there is in all likely hood going to continue to be a tv tax regardless, you will need to just except it or not pay, your choice.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #3709
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    fritzelly wrote: »
    After a few weeks of lockdown when the advertising is almost nonexistant will they be laying people off like lots of other business or asking for a bailout
    Which RTE should see as an opportunity to overhaul their operations.
    However, I will not hold my breath for that to happen with the current management and board in place.

    Wonder, as the current crisis evolves, will the government provide them with more money to continue as they are, or spend this money on much needed projects .... such as the procurement of ventilators.
    Money to sustain Ryan Tubridy and Joe Duffy's outrageous salaries or money for hospitals and triage units?


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  • #3710
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    So Claire Byrne 'thinks' she might have Covid-19. So she's self isolating.

    Are RTE going to have contact anyone who came into contact with Claire?


  • #3711
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,337 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    So Claire Byrne 'thinks' she might have Covid-19. So she's self isolating.

    Are RTE going to have contact anyone who came into contact with Claire?

    She has a runny nose - one of the least common indicators of coronavirus (4%)


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  • #3712
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    She has a runny nose - one of the least common indicators of coronavirus (4%)

    Cripes... so she's being a drama queen. Wonderful.

    So bloody hard to avoid 'fake news' when even the supposed people in charge are putting out fake news.


  • #3713
    garrettod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭garrettod


    McGaggs wrote: »
    After following this, and other, threads for a good few months, I've come to the conclusion that there is merit in having public service broadcasting, and that there are some things that rte does well (if not always cost effectively). It seems to me that it should be decided what should be public service broadcasting, and that should be ring fenced. The PSB should be consolidated into one channel (assume rte 1 and radio 1) which is funded by the licence fee and some advertising. All the commercial stuff can be put out on the other stations and be allowed to sink or swim with no licence fee funding.

    Why keep RTE2, and all of the other radio channels?

    Why not sell them, invest the money raised from the sale, into the long term future of the smaller remaining RTE network and TG4? That done, reduce the licence fee appropriately.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • #3714
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I think it's even getting to a stage where they are finding it harder and harder to justify TG4.

    It consists of repeats of Little House on the Prairie, Murder She Wrote, or TV shows TG4 produced 20 years ago (or RTE produced even farther back than that).

    If RTE 2 is playing second fiddle to the Rte player, I can't imagine how far down the totem pole TG4 is.


  • #3715
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    If anything RTÉ viewing numbers will be up. People are watching the news and pure boredom has set in so people will watch anything.

    The soccer thing about Jack charlton was good and probably blew all expectations

    It does confirm having a national broadcaster is required. Sticking it behind a subscription model will never work either. Imagine people not getting government updates? Watching UK tv for updates? Some plonker on yesterday saying Ireland had no version of nhs. It would be a mess

    So we need RTÉ, we need it on the current license model. We just need a decent RTÉ, not one with useless plonkers like Lottie Ryan that very few in the country will watch but by God RTÉ are going to shove her on the tv as much as possible


  • #3716
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    garrettod wrote: »
    Why keep RTE2, and all of the other radio channels?

    Why not sell them, invest the money raised from the sale, into the long term future of the smaller remaining RTE network and TG4? That done, reduce the licence fee appropriately.

    I was expecting the commercial reality to close the other channels TBH. I can't see any of that reducing the licence fee. I can't imagine they'd get much by selling the other channels/stations, and even if they did, the cash would be temporary and wouldn't allow a permanent reduction of the licence fee.


  • #3717
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    RTE Jnr is a so handy


  • #3718
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    garrettod wrote: »
    Why keep RTE2, and all of the other radio channels?

    Why not sell them, invest the money raised from the sale, into the long term future of the smaller remaining RTE network and TG4? That done, reduce the licence fee appropriately.


    Sell RTE 2, get 10 million or whatever and they would have burned through it in a few months and nothing to show for it


    Fix the whole thing and then see about investing in it, at the moment its just a big black hole in regards to money, money goes in and very little good comes out.....


  • #3719
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    RTE Jnr is a so handy

    Could be argued that this is public service broadcasting. No ads, and Irish output.


  • #3720
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    fritzelly wrote: »
    She has a runny nose - one of the least common indicators of coronavirus (4%)
    A prime example of RTE's hypocrisy.
    They preach from their gilded platform (paid for by us) on how we need to do more. It was only a day or two ago that one of their well paid mouthpieces was chastising us for not taking in economic migrants from the Turkish/Greek border ................. during a historical pandemic. We need to realise that there are people alive in Ireland now who are related to us or are people that we know who will die from this virus.

    Many just do not trust RTE anymore when you hear them propagating their liberal agenda.
    RTE should be stripped down to a core function of being a national IMPARTIAL broadcaster. All other functions, which are extremely expensive to fund, should be abolished.


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  • #3721
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,458 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    when you have a few hundred thousand that will lose there jobs over the course of 2-3 weeks, how do you justify the likes of the RTE farce? there needs to be more pay cuts, in solidarity with the many, who have taken a 100% pay cut!


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