Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Atlantic Dawn

garrettod wrote: »

RTE's Dee Forbes can justify anything, including her own very hefty remuneration package (previously reported at €338,000) :rolleyes:

Don't forget the €25k she gets towards a car...

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4756883/rte-chief-dee-forbes-car-bonus-salary/

elperello

BluePlanet wrote: »

RTE should be moved somewhere else, perhaps Athlone.
The current campus in Donnybrook to be converted to housing.

Once the campus is out of D4, we might see a reduced AngloIrish bias from that crowd.

Any proposal to move from Montrose would have to be in the context of a solid business plan for the future of Public Service Broadcasting.

I don't see any "Anglo Irish bias" whatever that is.

garrettod

RTE Impose Pay Freeze on Staff

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0310/1121457-rte-increments/

The TUG's chair... Ms Bradshaw noted that increments formed part of the contract of employment, and went on to say: "It is unacceptable to the TUG that the lower paid workers who have not reached the top of their scale would have a pay cut enforced, at a time when management continues to refuse to address the culture of excessive pay at certain levels within the organisation."

Idbatterim

Here we go again. Over paid and private sector losing jobs now , but the rte crowd aren’t getting increments! Lol!

nigeldaniel

A lot of the problem with RTE and indeed business as a whole is Ireland is still a small country and the number of customers on hand to pay for a service is not that high. If 10 million lived here RTE would be on a much better level. The same might be said for the Insurance business. At the end of the day, RTE will need to play the hand they have. Complaining will not make the problem go away. A new business plan on the other hand...

AndyBoBandy

nigeldaniel wrote: »

If 10 million lived here RTE would be on a much better level.

If 10 million lived here, RTÉ would be just paying 2-3 times as much to it's staff, as well as doubling in size, and would still be cap in hand to the Government looking for more money.

Corporate mismanagement in an organisation where they don't have to win or lose. They get their income regardless. They just have to exist.

Could you imaging that in the business world? in the real world? where failure to earn profit is not an option.

nigeldaniel

nigeldaniel wrote: »

A lot of the problem with RTE and indeed business as a whole is Ireland is still a small country and the number of customers on hand to pay for a service is not that high. If 10 million lived here RTE would be on a much better level. The same might be said for the Insurance business. At the end of the day, RTE will need to play the hand they have. Complaining will not make the problem go away. A new business plan on the other hand...

I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

Replace the license with a subscription, make the player somewhat decent, and they would actually make money. There are Irish people in Australia who would subscribe. There are Irish Americans in the USA who would subscribe.

Idbatterim

the license fee should be abolished and let the morons implement what every measures necessary between cost cutting and increasing revenue, like through their media player. The amount of irish diaspora is huge... :rolleyes:

end of the road

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

Replace the license with a subscription, make the player somewhat decent, and they would actually make money. There are Irish people in Australia who would subscribe. There are Irish Americans in the USA who would subscribe.

i wouldn't bank on it.
a subscription model is populist among a few, because there is a belief that they won't have to pay any further for having a television capable of receiving a terrestrial signal, but in reality, i would expect that not long after any rte subscription model, there would be a charge to every house in replacement of the license.
a subscription model is quite likely not going to happen, and is not viable for public service broadcasting i would expect.
there is already enough subscription television to meet the demand available for those who want subscription television, i would expect.

end of the road

end of the road wrote: »

i wouldn't bank on it.
a subscription model is populist among a few, because there is a belief that they won't have to pay any further for having a television capable of receiving a terrestrial signal, but in reality, i would expect that not long after any rte subscription model, there would be a charge to every house in replacement of the license.
a subscription model is quite likely not going to happen, and is not viable for public service broadcasting i would expect.
there is already enough subscription television to meet the demand available for those who want subscription television, i would expect.

Im not saying what will happen I'm saying what should happen.

elperello

Deleted User wrote: »

Im not saying what will happen I'm saying what should happen.

You are right about the player. It's a mess and needs to be sorted.

Your point about services for US and AUS also has merit. I have often thought there should be a market for Irish programming in those territories.

Neither of these address the core issue of a Public Broadcasting Service for the island of Ireland. I believe we need a good PBS and don't think it should be left to market forces to provide same.

I fear in all this debate about salaries, contracts etc, that we are in danger of throwing out the baby with the bath water. One day we might look up from our phones and find that we have lost something precious.

Shefwedfan

elperello wrote: »

You are right about the player. It's a mess and needs to be sorted.

Your point about services for US and AUS also has merit. I have often thought there should be a market for Irish programming in those territories.

Neither of these address the core issue of a Public Broadcasting Service for the island of Ireland. I believe we need a good PBS and don't think it should be left to market forces to provide same.

I fear in all this debate about salaries, contracts etc, that we are in danger of throwing out the baby with the bath water. One day we might look up from our phones and find that we have lost something precious.

Access to porn?

the_pen_turner

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

Replace the license with a subscription, make the player somewhat decent, and they would actually make money. There are Irish people in Australia who would subscribe. There are Irish Americans in the USA who would subscribe.

i dont think that many would stick around after the first month. why would they . its 95% imported (easily viewed else where) , repeats of imports or pure rubbish and worse of all repeats of repeats of said rubbish
i dont think that 5% would be worth buying

EmptyTree

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was in the UK last week and signed into my NetFlix, my Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer. I tried signing into the RTE player but gave up because it was sh&t.

This. It always amazes me how they're perfectly well able to show you the ads in stunning HD, but try to watch a programme and you'd swear you were trying to get the signal through a set of rabbits ears.

Shefwedfan

Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ, glad to see the corrupt in RTÉ stihigh

fritzelly

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ, glad to see the corrupt in RTÉ stihigh

Now to be rolled out to every program and paraded around the place

RabbleRouser2k

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Dancing with the stars, what a pile of s**t. My wife watch’s it, said at start they would give to Lottie as they are mad to get her into rte after her massive.....well failure at 2fm

Anyway misses had on earlier, they jumped to final or something. Lottie still standing , I said again she would win. Not a hope my wife said, people don’t like her and she been bottom a few times???

Anyway lo and behold. Even my wife said she ain’t watching that s**t again

Now to 10 years of Lottie f**king Ryan on every show on RTÉ

You'd think so, but Aidan O'Mahony's win on the show was meant to start a career. Didn't pan out.
Mairead Ronan's married to a flipping Millionaire.. her career isn't panning out either. Radio, and that's it.

Lottie was hosting the spin-off show last year, was in the show this year.
If her failure on radio is anything to go by, she's not gonna connect on TV either.

But yeah, anyone who thought she would 'lose' the show, didn't go into their local supermarket in the last week or so, and see her face on EVERY flipping IRish magazine, knew it was gonna be a fix.

Shefwedfan

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

You'd think so, but Aidan O'Mahony's win on the show was meant to start a career. Didn't pan out.
Mairead Ronan's married to a flipping Millionaire.. her career isn't panning out either. Radio, and that's it.

Lottie was hosting the spin-off show last year, was in the show this year.
If her failure on radio is anything to go by, she's not gonna connect on TV either.

But yeah, anyone who thought she would 'lose' the show, didn't go into their local supermarket in the last week or so, and see her face on EVERY flipping IRish magazine, knew it was gonna be a fix.

She is f**king awful and if it’s mentioned one more time about working on the set of “the good wife”

RTÉ pushing her big time, just because of daddy, not because of any talent

RabbleRouser2k

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She is f**king awful and if it’s mentioned one more time about working on the set of “the good wife”

RTÉ pushing her big time, just because of daddy, not because of any talent

She'll get a tiny bit of attention. But just like Mairead Ronan showed, if you don't have talent... you're not getting many gigs.

Even when Muireann O'Connell lost her gig on Today FM to Mairead Ronan, she picked up another gig not long after on a rugby show. (Tho with no rugby to show, that's gonna be a rough time).

Lottie is awful-it's why she never gotten any gig outside of the ten minute 'entertainment' section.

They always push his kids... never mention all the lives he ruined with his 'habit'.

fritzelly

After a few weeks of lockdown when the advertising is almost nonexistant will they be laying people off like lots of other business or asking for a bailout

The J Stands for Jay

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i dont think that many would stick around after the first month. why would they . its 95% imported (easily viewed else where) , repeats of imports or pure rubbish and worse of all repeats of repeats of said rubbish
i dont think that 5% would be worth buying

After following this, and other, threads for a good few months, I've come to the conclusion that there is merit in having public service broadcasting, and that there are some things that rte does well (if not always cost effectively). It seems to me that it should be decided what should be public service broadcasting, and that should be ring fenced. The PSB should be consolidated into one channel (assume rte 1 and radio 1) which is funded by the licence fee and some advertising. All the commercial stuff can be put out on the other stations and be allowed to sink or swim with no licence fee funding.

Idbatterim

No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what the private sector staff are facing (AGAIN) and the Montrose millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !

Elmo

Idbatterim wrote: »

No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what kevate sector staff are facing get again and the mom tries millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !

Fewer programmes, and no PSB services that many would missed even if you wouldn't.

Look at Virgin Media TV, Daytime TV with one Current Affairs programme and some Sport, their drama is almost entirely supported by the licence fee and/or Channel 5 UK.

I agree that RTÉ is badly run and needs to change and that they clearly are not changing in anyway but there are a list of services that they provide that the indo sector just won't touch with a barge poll.

fritzelly

Virgin media get nothing from the licence fee

end of the road

Idbatterim wrote: »

No. They can survive from ads, digital ads etc. look at the prospect of what the private sector staff are facing (AGAIN) and the Montrose millionaires are the ones delivering us this message. No license fee. They sort themselves out !

so most likely, we will end up with no current affairs or other psb output, the stuff rte actually does well.
after all, if you want them to survive on adds only, the more expensive stuff will have to go, and it will just be another commercial channel full of fluff only as that is what makes money.
oh and by the way, the beauty and ironic thing is that you would still likely be paying some sort of tv tax.
oh dear, you really haven't thought this through, again.

Idbatterim

end of the road wrote: »

so most likely, we will end up with no current affairs or other psb output, the stuff rte actually does well.
after all, if you want them to survive on adds only, the more expensive stuff will have to go, and it will just be another commercial channel full of fluff only as that is what makes money.
oh and by the way, the beauty and ironic thing is that you would still likely be paying some sort of tv tax.
oh dear, you really haven't thought this through, again.

of course they would still do their current affairs etc. Its these shows that are the institution etc, not the likes of Tubridy etc :rolleyes: there is no need to pay them mad money, the shows are giving them the platform to show case themselves, whichever uk politician mentioned this about the bbc presenters, hit the nail on the head...

end of the road

Idbatterim wrote: »

of course they would still do their current affairs etc. Its these shows that are the institution etc, not the likes of Tubridy etc there is no need to pay them mad money, the shows are giving them the platform to show case themselves, whichever uk politician mentioned this about the bbc presenters, hit the nail on the head...

yeah, i'm sure they would continue to do the probably more expensive current affairs output from just adds alone. :LOL.
i couldn't care about some nonsense some uk politician, no doubt with some agenda, says about people in the bbc who are no doubt doing what they are perfectly entitled to do and should be perfectly entitled to do, and would be in any other organisation i would expect.
there is in all likely hood going to continue to be a tv tax regardless, you will need to just except it or not pay, your choice.

Kivaro

fritzelly wrote: »

After a few weeks of lockdown when the advertising is almost nonexistant will they be laying people off like lots of other business or asking for a bailout

Which RTE should see as an opportunity to overhaul their operations.
However, I will not hold my breath for that to happen with the current management and board in place.

Wonder, as the current crisis evolves, will the government provide them with more money to continue as they are, or spend this money on much needed projects .... such as the procurement of ventilators.
Money to sustain Ryan Tubridy and Joe Duffy's outrageous salaries or money for hospitals and triage units?

RabbleRouser2k

So Claire Byrne 'thinks' she might have Covid-19. So she's self isolating.

Are RTE going to have contact anyone who came into contact with Claire?

fritzelly

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

So Claire Byrne 'thinks' she might have Covid-19. So she's self isolating.

Are RTE going to have contact anyone who came into contact with Claire?

She has a runny nose - one of the least common indicators of coronavirus (4%)