CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

millb · 16-03-2020 11:09PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

You don't care about the hospitality trade.:rolleyes:

And no it is not essential in the short term jobs will be lost but people are being hired for medical care those roles are essential.

Hospitality trade do you mean tourism?:rolleyes:

I think it just a load of brain dead selfish pricks who just want to get pissed.
Apart from speeding up the spread mindless fu*ktards drunk filling up the A&E at the weekends giving abuse to the staff is not what we need right now.

Hotels can become hospitals

- Barmen can become IV and Ventilator operators :eek:- air and antibiotics instead of pints and cocktails :P- same cleaners / doormen / catering :rolleyes:........... just need the PPE, equipment, Solas QQI certs and soft furnishing sterilization:D:D

James 007 · 16-03-2020 11:09PM

bilston wrote: »

Good luck, hope he gets better soon.

Keep an eye on the breathing. That would be the main indicator I'd have thought as to whether you need to take things further.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougm1970
quoting myself ^^
lad hasnt been seen today...telling me, via messenger, that hes in a lot of pain....head, stomach, throat...his mother took his temp earlier at 39.1....and he has a constant dry sore cough.
he tried to get up for a shower earlier and had to go back to bed.
he hasnt been eating either.
g.p. said horse the paracetamols into him and wait for virus tester to come.
be tomorrow now...but hes very uncomfortable.
wonder if worth bothering a caredoc with, or just wait it out ?

again...could be something totally unrelated to the virus.....just the fact he has them symptoms this week with all thats going on, and that hes never sick..fit as a hare he is.
Good luck, hope he gets better soon.

Keep an eye on the breathing. That would be the main indicator I'd have thought as to whether you need to take things further.

Its Covid-19 most likely with all those symptoms, ensure he is isolating from his mum!!!

NIMAN · 16-03-2020 11:09PM

joe40 wrote: »

I'm no historian or economist but it seems to me the last time there was something this destructive on a global scale was WW2. Millions of lives lost and the cost was billions. The lost lives could not be replaced but the economies recovered and thrived in the post war years.
I think this period in human history will cause similar global destruction, but economies will recover, maybe changed though.

Will it kill millions?

irishgeo · 16-03-2020 11:10PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Yes.

You aren't accounting for recovered cases.

blackcard · 16-03-2020 11:10PM

Did Nostradamus, Old Moore's Almanac, any psychics, anyone predict that this was going to happen? If not, they are useless

MrMusician18 · 16-03-2020 11:10PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Absolute knack bags. It's going to be people with IQ's that reflect your average Dublin / Kerry football score game that will help in spreading this.

That's being generous, more like an Armagh Tyrone game tbh.

Larbre34 · 16-03-2020 11:10PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239620630523322368

Resign

Cuomo will do more. He'll ensure the state prosecutors in NY are waiting for Trumpy when he leaves office to have a chat about his malfeasance in business and in office.

gabeeg · 16-03-2020 11:10PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Will it kill millions?

That's what all the numbers suggest

daheff · 16-03-2020 11:11PM

TSQ wrote: »

Just wondering.... several friends had severe respiratory illness just before and after new year, not flu related. Prescribed antibiotics and steroids, but apart from being told it was a respiratory infection they werent really told what it was. They dont know each other so didnt catch it off each other, and in fact anecdotally seems lots of people had the same symptoms around that time. Has corona actually been in Ireland since last December?

Wouldn't be surprised if a version of this was in circulation.

Rob A. Bank · 16-03-2020 11:11PM

amadangomor wrote: »

It will be limited by the amount of trained staff available to operate them.

True.

The number of ventilators is important but you can’t just plug someone in and leave them alone.For starters the patient must be sedated and anesthetized.

Looking after an unconscious patient on a ventilator needs a 24/7 highly specialized team of doctors, nurses, ancillary staff etc. and they are in short supply.

If the patient is highly infectious, the task is even more difficult and potentially life threatening for the staff.

It is impossible to get untrained staff to run ventilators. It would be like asking a group of people, who have just passed their driving test, to successfully run an F1 race team and also manage the race car around the circuit at high speed.

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caveat emptor · 16-03-2020 11:11PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italian numbers staggering. (most exponential increases are)
This is insane. The mortality rate not including those currently infected - 44% :eek:
It's ramping up in other regions big time now.

Number currently infected 23073
11 thousand in hospital
1.8 thousand in intensive care

Concluded cases Post Disease (4907 )

2749 Alive. 56%
2158 Dead. 44%

Why do we think this won’t happen here?

CinemaGuy45 · 16-03-2020 11:11PM

millb wrote: »

Hotels can become hospitals - Barmen can become IV and Ventilator operators :eek:- air and antibiotics instead of pints and cocktails :P- same cleaners / doormen / catering :rolleyes:........... just need the PPE, equipment, Solas QQI certs and soft furnishing sterilization:D:D

Well they are already use to mopping up vomit.:D

cnocbui · 16-03-2020 11:11PM

rob316 wrote: »

We have an economy built flimsly on a corporation tax rate. If you start shutting down those large multinationals we will not have the resources to fight this to save anyone.

How the **** can people not get that through there heads. Do you live in a bubble where no one works is it?

Absolute end to end nonsense. The Irish government probably gets less of it's revenue proportionally from corporate tax than most OECD countries. The bulk of the revenue comes from taxing the punters.

greenfield21 · 16-03-2020 11:12PM

Thought this was interesting, also does anyone have any data on cities in the south of Italy. There is definitely something special about what's going on in certain areas of the north.

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1237955364534063105

CinemaGuy45 · 16-03-2020 11:12PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

I haven't drank in 11 months. Close everywhere for 2 weeks and re asses the situation. Either that or continue to pretend we are capable of managing a large scale outbreak.

Remember we are relying on the capabilities and capacity of the hse .

Why risk getting into an out of control situation.

I agree I am terrified going into work.

gabeeg · 16-03-2020 11:12PM

irishgeo wrote: »

You aren't accounting for recovered cases.

I am.

Our health care system is going to be overwhelmed in the next week or two.

We'll be rushing to build capacity, but it's going to be a long time before we can match the virus.

splinter65 · 16-03-2020 11:13PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There is absolutely no need to be so disparaging. I truly believe that the politicians and HSE are doing their best to direct the country in a way that will cause it least harm (and that includes you and your family). Will they get it completely right? Unlikely, but at least they're trying.

Of course everyone is doing their best. I never said otherwise. My point is that certain posters don’t seem to understand that when there’s a crisis like this our Taoiseach and Tanaiste are totally reliant on expert information fed to them by scientists and other experts.
They are only ordinary humans after all.
These posters believe that Leo et al are conferred with some kind of miraculous problem solving skills. It’s nonsense.

Jinglejangle69 · 16-03-2020 11:13PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Absolute end to end nonsense. The Irish government probably gets less of it's revenue proportionally from corporate tax than most OECD countries. The bulk of the revenue comes from taxing the punters.

11 billion in corporate tax last year.

rob316 · 16-03-2020 11:13PM

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

Whatever that was, I had it too. It was a scary enough thing that I’d never had before. I couldn’t even pinpoint a date. It was between mid January and the first week in February. The worst symptoms lasted maybe 3 days. I just couldn’t breath properly.

There's a school of thought this virus is here a while. The flu i got at Christmas was the sickest I ever was, the cough and shortness of breath was awful and i didn't have a bacterial chest infection.Not saying I had this virus but it was unlike the flu I've had before.

niallo27 · 16-03-2020 11:13PM

gabeeg wrote: »

You may not have noticed, but they haven't finished dying

You not get the point though if millions have it, that's it's good.

Larbre34 · 16-03-2020 11:13PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Will it kill millions?

Between 225 and 300 million globally is the estimate.

In contrast, the Spanish Flu of the late 1910s killed up to 100 million out of a world population of 1.9 billion at the time. The equivalent now would be upwards of 400 million.

perrito caliente · 16-03-2020 11:14PM

joe40 wrote: »

I'm no historian or economist but it seems to me the last time there was something this destructive on a global scale was WW2. Millions of lives lost and the cost was billions. The lost lives could not be replaced but the economies recovered and thrived in the post war years.
I think this period in human history will cause similar global destruction, but economies will recover, maybe changed though.

Cool story bro. Some of you really need to get a grippe.

Jinglejangle69 · 16-03-2020 11:14PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Of course everyone is doing their best. I never said otherwise. My point is that certain posters don’t seem to understand that when there’s a crisis like this our Taoiseach and Tanaiste are totally reliant on expert information fed to them by scientists and other experts.
They are only ordinary humans after all.
These posters believe that Leo et al are conferred with some kind of miraculous problem solving skills. It’s nonsense.

They have the power to not listen to the experts.

Wibbs · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

owlbethere wrote: »

What are your friends generally like? Do they get the flu injection every year? Anyone of your friends get the flu injection and came down with the symptoms you described.

FWIW O I know two people who get the flu jab religiously every year including last year. Both got that dose(one got it rough and ended up getting antibiotics and steroids for her lungs). I know one guy who got an awful dose in november but his GP confirmed the flu(and the symptoms were consistent with it). He came down with that other dose in early January. I dunno what it was, but in those three cases I doesn't sound like the flu.

I got it myself and with the single exception of the Swine flu ten odd years ago I have never caught the flu, or at least if I did it was so mild it was barely noticeable. I didn't even get the flu my mate caught in november and I was working with him for four days, including a few longish journeys in cars.

Though let's face O it it's sooooo much more likely a coincidence that that dose and/or the flu in december/january gave very similar symptoms for some to this covid dose.

caveat emptor · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I agree I am terrified going into work.

It’s times like these we ask why did the Jews not leave germany?
Why did the Irish not grow food other than the potato?
Answer is they were told / didn’t have an option. Don’t be a statistic

gabeeg · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You not get the point though if millions have it, that's it's good.

You know I think I might be completely missing your point.

What is it?

tobefrank321 · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

The fact that the first thing that enters most people's head in a time of crisis is "how will I wipe my hole?" doesn't fill me with confidence.

splinter65 · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Absolute end to end nonsense. The Irish government probably gets less of it's revenue proportionally from corporate tax than most OECD countries. The bulk of the revenue comes from taxing the punters.

....and when the punters aren’t earning any money to pay tax out of, and are actually putting their hands out now for their piece of the tax pie, then we’re in trouble.

cnocbui · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

millb wrote: »

Hotels can become hospitals - Barmen can become IV and Ventilator operators :eek:- air and antibiotics instead of pints and cocktails :P- same cleaners / doormen / catering :rolleyes:........... just need the PPE, equipment, Solas QQI certs and soft furnishing sterilization:D:D

You could get plumbers to do the intubations, but they charge more than a pulmonary consultant costs the HSE, so not practical.

micks_address · 16-03-2020 11:15PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Why do we think this won’t happen here?

By yours numbers 44 percent who get the virus die?

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP