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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    I have been talking to people in Italy, they are taking the lockdown seriously and if you are outside without a reason you will get a big fine. It will have an effect on the numbers getting the virus at some stage hopefully that is what we are seeing now but it may be too early to tell.

    If Ireland goes into lockdown, they have to bring in fines if you're caught out. People won't take it seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Googled this 'herd immunity' thing and got this;

    ""To achieve herd immunity for measles at least 90-95% of the population need to be vaccinated. A disease like polio is less contagious, and 80-85% of the population would need to be vaccinated for herd immunity to work"

    Where is the UK getting its '60%' figure from?

    Based on the above 60% would suggest that Covid is not very contagious at all, yet we see Italy and Spain with huge contagion.

    Well only 3% of wuhan got infected and 20% on the cruise so hard to tell how contagious it is. The diseases you mentioned affect the young at lot harder than cv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    Whats also shocking from that is the subway pic from today
    ETN6DlbXkAIzfY-?format=jpg&name=small
    Thats absolutely insane if true.
    That's quiet for the Madrid metro and there is distancing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Just to ask other poster - is this thread appear on page 2 of the main forum for you or is it just me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Not in Kansas


    I'm sorry I can't read back over much of this thread. Here are some of my observances from my own experiences and that of my close circle in the last few days.

    1. Husband has family in Madrid and London. It is utterly bizarre on the family WhatsApp group with those in Spain in complete lock down, us in Ireland social distancing and trying to be good citizens and those in London packing their kids off to school and extracurricular activities today.

    2. We were due to go to NY last Thursday morning with the kids for the trip of a lifetime. Thank **** we didn't head to the airport as it all kicked off when that plane was in the air. Anyway, I had been a member of a NY Travel group on FB for the last few months mostly frequented by members from the UK and a smaller cohort from Ireland .I couldn't look away over the weekend as idiot after idiot headed to Heathrow, Gatwick, Dublin etc to board their plane as they would no way miss out on this holiday. Some were sent straight home on the same bloody plane. For those there, their photos became eerier and eerier until they resembled scenes from 28 Days Later. They had travelled knowing Trump's ban was being extended but said the airlines had a duty of care to get them home. They then seemed surpised to get texts cutting their weird dystopian holiday short asking them to head straight to JFK. People are so, so stupid.

    3. My elderly aunty has double pneumonia (non-virus related) and has been on a trolley for 2 days in a regional hospital and that's before this all escalates. How on earth will services cope?

    4. A sign of the new normal coming our way: my mother's best friend died. Again not virus related, expected for the last few months. Nobody is allowed to attend her funeral apart from her family. It will be llve streamed.

    This all feels so, so big. It's hard to imagine the world ever being the same again.
    Strangely, I'm in good form. Go figure!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭themighty


    Googled this 'herd immunity' thing and got this;

    ""To achieve herd immunity for measles at least 90-95% of the population need to be vaccinated. A disease like polio is less contagious, and 80-85% of the population would need to be vaccinated for herd immunity to work"

    Where is the UK getting its '60%' figure from?

    Based on the above 60% would suggest that Covid is not very contagious at all, yet we see Italy and Spain with huge contagion.

    It depends on how infectious the disease is. For very infectious diseases like measles it's 95%. One person would typically pass it to 9-18 people. Coronavirus is a good bit less infectious (2-4 people infected normally), so can get away with a lower herd immunity.

    So avoiding the measles vaccination is particularly stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Been announced on Virgin media news that HSE briefing not until 8pm this evening

    Not sure I like the sound of that. Could there be a really big spike on the way? If there is it will focus minds on isolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    I am beginning to feel very anxious, sad and fearful for england as a whole, i have many relations there and some in italy also.

    Italy trying to sort it out, england throwing their population to the wolves.

    Oh come on - that picture is allegedly a recent one from Spain - nothing to do with England.

    Have a look here (yea I know daily mail) for some pictures of UK mass transit from this morning.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8116059/Millions-workers-start-working-home-Britain-faces-coronavirus-crisis.html

    This is very similar to what I saw this morning in Ireland, as of this morning mass internal transport (busses/LUAS/Dart/train) were all running in Ireland. And the fact that they were does not necessarily mean the Irish government is incompetent or doing eugenics on us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Don’t call us , self isolate,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I'm sorry I can't read back over much of this thread. Here are some of my observances from my own experiences and that of my close circle in the last few days.

    1. Husband has family in Madrid and London. It is utterly bizarre on the family WhatsApp group with those in Spain in complete lock down, us in Ireland social distancing and trying to be good citizens and those in London packing their kids off to school and extracurricular activities today.

    2. We were due to go to NY last Thursday morning with the kids for the trip of a lifetime. Thank **** we didn't head to the airport as it all kicked off when that plane was in the air. Anyway, I had been a member of a NY Travel group on FB for the last few months mostly frequented by members from the UK. and a smaller cohort from Ireland I couldn't look away over the weekend as idiot after idiot headed to Heathrow, Gatwick, Dublin etc to board their plane as they would no way miss out on this holiday. Some were sent straight home on the same bloody plane. For those there, their photos became eerier and eerier until they resembled scenes from 28 Days Later. They had travelled knowing Trump's ban was being extended but said the airlines had a duty of care to get them home. They then seemed surpised to get texts cutting their weird dystopian holiday short asking them to head straight to JFK. People are so, so stupid.

    3. My elderly aunty has double pneumonia (non-virus related) and has been on a trolley for 2 days in a regional hospital and that's before this all escalates. How on earth will services cope?

    4. A sign of the new normal coming our way: my mother's best friend died. Again not virus related, expected for the last few months. Nobody is allowed to attend her funeral apart from her family. It will be llve streamed.

    This all feels so, so big. It's hard to imagine the world ever being the same again.
    Strangely, I'm in good form. Go figure!

    Aye, we're not in Kansas anymore


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher



    I don't understand why the HSE can't be tweeting this information itself.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Think the Hse are delivering a lot more info including breakdown of cases by county today iirc from Saturday


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Loughc wrote: »
    Social media and WhatsApp groups over the last few days

    "I heard from a good source"
    "I have a mate who is friends with a Garda"
    "My sister's auntie used to go out with a soldier and told me this is fact"
    "My neighbour works for **insert any hospital name**
    "I've seen all the posts they deleted on Boards"


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That's quiet for the Madrid metro and there is distancing!

    I think I'd walk 10km rather than deal with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rdwight


    You can harvest lettuce after 1 month. Simple to grow.
    laugh wrote: »
    Not great for calorie count though.

    Just trap the rabbits and snails that come looking for your lettuce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭BKtje


    He has form. He has no 'cold' or anything else for that matter. Unless lazyitis is a medical condition.

    Can your HR department not ask for a second opinion? I dunno what the law in Ireland is like but here a company can request a second opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭IQO




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭eldamo


    Bonds are also down 5% no safe haven

    Liquidity is all dried up. It's 2008 all over again. Well, you know, that and a pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    RTE saying a significant rise in cases expected this evening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    They are not closing pubs and clubs, hoping people will avoid them.

    FFS if only they had a smaller neighbour with similar drinking culture as an example to see how this policy works out :confused:


    Braindead fuks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Shn99 wrote: »
    RTE saying a significant rise in cases expected this evening

    Shiit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,728 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    With all the supermarket have special hours for the elderly in the morning. I can imagine people getting granny or mammy to get trolley loads of shopping for them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    The most important stat will be whether the percentage of positive cases, rather than the actual number, increases.

    Agreed. Number of tests and number of deaths are the more important stats. Number of new cases is a good indicator though too. All the stats are vital!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,341 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser



    4. A sign of the new normal coming our way: my mother's best friend died. Again not virus related, expected for the last few months. Nobody is allowed to attend her funeral apart from her family. It will be llve streamed!

    That's the bit that saddens me the most :-(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    With all the supermarket have special hours for the elderly in the morning. I can imagine people getting granny or mammy to get trolley loads of shopping for them!

    Maybe granny and mammy will do that anyway, they usually do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    josip wrote: »
    Ryanair have emailed "offering" the following for our Easter flights to Barcelona.





    I assume that when they do cancel these flights, we're entitled to a full refund?
    Would I also be correct in thinking that anyone who avails of their generous offer now, would no longer be able to claim a refund?

    Yep. If you make a new booking by way of rescheduling, it's a new booking so unless that subsequent flight is cancelled, you couldn't claim a refund.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    I see the 'fake car fleet story' is being reported now in mainstream media (yes it's true), like I said not everything posted here is fake news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Expecting a large number of cases this evening -rte, difference in calculus of cases

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Italian numbers staggering. (most exponential increases are)
    This is insane. The mortality rate not including those currently infected - 44% :eek:
    It's ramping up in other regions big time now.

    Number currently infected 23073
    11 thousand in hospital
    1.8 thousand in intensive care



    Concluded cases Post Disease (4907 )

    2749 Alive. 56%
    2158 Dead. 44%



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