CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

hblock21 · 16-03-2020 11:01PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Could you explain why only 20% of people on the princess cruise ship got it and only 3% of wuhan got it even though it was left completely untreated for a few months in the wuhan situation.

Because the Wuhan numbers are COMPLETE BULL

amadangomor · 16-03-2020 11:01PM

I can easily go to my job and keep two metres away from people for the day. 5000 people work there and I can still do that.

If I went to a pub it would not be remotely possible. You go to a pub to be sociable and mix with people, it is not a conducive environment for social distancing

Mervyn Skidmore · 16-03-2020 11:01PM

Medtronic make ventilators but i don't think they are made in Galway or in Ireland. That's a bit misleading from the Irish Times.

daheff · 16-03-2020 11:02PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Hse have ordered 70. 60 ICU grade and 10 mobile ones.

They should be ordering 10 times that amount

If 15,000 get Corona virus and 20% need hospitalisation....that's 3000. A quarter of those will need high dependency care. 750. We have 250. Look at wear & tear. Faulty units...etc.

And that's just to end March.

Blueshoe · 16-03-2020 11:02PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So you want the offices closed?:D

Or the PUBS open?

Let me guess.

I haven't drank in 11 months. Close everywhere for 2 weeks and re asses the situation. Either that or continue to pretend we are capable of managing a large scale outbreak.

Remember we are relying on the capabilities and capacity of the hse .

Why risk getting into an out of control situation.

Pablo Escobar · 16-03-2020 11:02PM

TSQ wrote: »

Just wondering.... several friends had severe respiratory illness just before and after new year, not flu related. Prescribed antibiotics and steroids, but apart from being told it was a respiratory infection they werent really told what it was. They dont know each other so didnt catch it off each other, and in fact anecdotally seems lots of people had the same symptoms around that time. Has corona actually been in Ireland since last December?

Whatever that was, I had it too. It was a scary enough thing that I’d never had before. I couldn’t even pinpoint a date. It was between mid January and the first week in February. The worst symptoms lasted maybe 3 days. I just couldn’t breath properly.

Spanish Eyes · 16-03-2020 11:02PM

Difficult times ahead.

Maybe time now to thank our Health Service Providers in the eye of this storm. All of them.

Beasty · 16-03-2020 11:02PM

rob316 wrote: »

Agreed

So many mathematicians on here and statistical experts. A virus is unpredictable it could just slow to a crawl too. Your model fails to take into account our early lockdown measures and the results they yield.

Now't wrong with being a mathematician. They are often the ones that spot errors or weaknesses in projections...

Another fact is the more of the population that are affected the smaller the remaining population to be infected. Then there is the question of any immunity from being infected along with any natural immunity within the population. That's before overlaying other factors such as the relatively low incidence in children

A good mathematical model adjusts for all known variables, or caveats the conclusions accordingly. In this case there is one major caveat - it does not reflect the underlying circumstances including the point you make above

pjohnson · 16-03-2020 11:03PM

cnocbui wrote: »

No, it really isn't, unless you are a brain damaged alcoholic, in which case it probably is.

We learned this week we have a lot more of them than anyone could have imagined.

Ger Roe · 16-03-2020 11:03PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

So if it's held in room B it ruins the acronym?

Yes, it was an unintentional coincidence from a shorthand note in the booking list.

CinemaGuy45 · 16-03-2020 11:03PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Italy, France etc are wrong then. Lockdown not required. There is hand sanitizer in the office. Insanity

This is about slowing down the spread not stopping it.

People like me have to go into work my job involves food and alcohol the food is needed the drink is not.

cnocbui · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Still baffled by the run on jacks roll.

The toilet paper hoarders turned out to be right

https://www.afr.com/companies/healthcare-and-fitness/the-toilet-paper-hoarders-turned-out-to-be-right-20200316-p54amg

Hobgoblin11 · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

COBRA meetings - It's not as James Bond as you might think.

Cabinet Office Briefing Room A - it's where the meetings are held.

I'm sure the room have to be room A :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Larbre34 · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

why are the brits conference meetings called (Cobra) all I keep thinking of is evil men plotting against the world. Like out of G.I Joe

A) because they an insufferable bunch of w@nkers

The room in which the meetings take place, a hardened information and meeting room underneath the main office of the Government in Whitehall called Cabinet Office Briefing Room A

C.O.B.R.A.

Monkeynut · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

why are the brits conference meetings called (Cobra) all I keep thinking of is evil men plotting against the world. Like out of G.I Joe

Cabinet Office Briefing Room A

Satanic
Toxic
Unequivocal
Peaceful
Ideas
Drink

cool

Nice
Airborne
Minute
Eels

MrMusician18 · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

splinter65 wrote: »

You might as well talk to the wall. For some posters this is no more then a competition between UK and Ireland which Ireland must win, even if we’re actually losing.
Some posters think that the Taoiseach and the tanaiste are making these decisions after considering the situation with their huge big heavy clever brains crammed full of wisdom.
They haven’t got a clue.

There is absolutely no need to be so disparaging. I truly believe that the politicians and HSE are doing their best to direct the country in a way that will cause it least harm (and that includes you and your family). Will they get it completely right? Unlikely, but at least they're trying.

Renjit · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

At least two years ago the beast from the east was a bit of crack . This ain’t

I would prefer double whammy of beast from east and west instead of Corona.

owlbethere · 16-03-2020 11:04PM

TSQ wrote: »

Just wondering.... several friends had severe respiratory illness just before and after new year, not flu related. Prescribed antibiotics and steroids, but apart from being told it was a respiratory infection they werent really told what it was. They dont know each other so didnt catch it off each other, and in fact anecdotally seems lots of people had the same symptoms around that time. Has corona actually been in Ireland since last December?

What are your friends generally like? Do they get the flu injection every year? Anyone of your friends get the flu injection and came down with the symptoms you described.

I was reading another forum, an English forum and there's a thread about the same. Many people came down with the similar bug that you described here.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-03-2020 11:05PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239620630523322368

Resign

Beasty · 16-03-2020 11:05PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So you want the offices closed?:D

Or the PUBS open?

Let me guess.

There is no need to increase font size with your posts - it does not change in any way the point you are making, it just suggests you are making it by shouting

amadangomor · 16-03-2020 11:06PM

daheff wrote: »

They should be ordering 10 times that amount

If 15,000 get Corona virus and 20% need hospitalisation....that's 3000. A quarter of those will need high dependency care. 750. We have 250. Look at wear & tear. Faulty units...etc.

And that's just to end March.

It will be limited by the amount of trained staff available to operate them.

Blueshoe · 16-03-2020 11:06PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

This is about slowing down the spread not stopping it.

People like me have to go into work my job involves food and alcohol the food is needed the drink is not.

Keep going to work. We all should. The virus will continue to spread. The hse will be overwhelmed and when we do go into lockdown similar to France, Spain and Italy it will be too late.

Shove your condescending little pic.

Monkeynut · 16-03-2020 11:06PM

Or COBRA

Corona
Overloading
Britain
Right
Away

CinemaGuy45 · 16-03-2020 11:06PM

cnocbui wrote: »

No, it really isn't, unless you are a brain damaged alcoholic, in which case it probably is.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I have had it with these posts.

Why are we overusing the word probably?:D

jill_valentine · 16-03-2020 11:06PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Italy, France etc are wrong then. Lockdown not required. There is hand sanitizer in the office. Insanity

You can have another look at what I actually said if you like, it's in the post you quoted.

Pulling the plug on an entire economy is not simply a question of money, it can have massive knock on effects you can't possibly map for, and those effects do cost lives in the short, medium and long term.

The government is faced with trying to weigh the lives that will certainly cost vs the lives at risk otherwise. That's not a simple equation, and the factors aren't static.

Currently every office I know of is taking measures to protect its staff on the premises at minimum, sending staff home more commonly. The lights have to stay on. If you're going to pretend you can't see the difference between that and a pub, I don't have to pretend to take it seriously.

daheff · 16-03-2020 11:07PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

why are the brits conference meetings called (Cobra) all I keep thinking of is evil men plotting against the world. Like out of G.I Joe

Cabinet
Office
Briefing
Room
A

gabeeg · 16-03-2020 11:07PM

Beasty wrote: »

There is no need to increase font size with your posts - it does not change in any way the point you are making, it just suggests you are making it by shouting

... said Beasty, in a firm bold font

begbysback · 16-03-2020 11:07PM

This was posted earlier on this thread about a cure, or vaccine

https://www.newsweek.com/testing-coronavirus-cure-set-start-australia-weeks-first-participant-us-vaccine-trial-due-1492437

Does the Italian doctor in this 2:10 not say they are already using these drugs?

CinemaGuy45 · 16-03-2020 11:08PM

Beasty wrote: »

There is no need to increase font size with your posts - it does not change in any way the point you are making, it just suggests you are making it by shouting

Ok noted.

I am irritated that all people can think about is the pubs closing.

These people could crab a few cans or do something productive.

joe40 · 16-03-2020 11:08PM

I'm no historian or economist but it seems to me the last time there was something this destructive on a global scale was WW2. Millions of lives lost and the cost was billions. The lost lives could not be replaced but the economies recovered and thrived in the post war years.
I think this period in human history will cause similar global destruction, but economies will recover, maybe changed though.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP