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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Plenty of economic measures they could be taking. Tbf to them, the EU is glacially slow at getting things done but still it would have been nice to see something from them.

    They announced a massive stimulus package last week?

    Seriously I think people forget that we are not ruled by the EU sometimes.

    This is an issue for countries to deal with (potentially working together). The EU is largely economic and announced a stimulus package


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes, it's not the economy that is of main concern but the societal impact. I think I saw a figure of four weeks being the maximum recommended number before the need to come back out of the lockdown again.
    Maximum recorded infectivity is 35 days for surviving confirmed cases, presumably by 28 days the % is such that the extra 7 days can be disregarded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭hblock21


    252 dead in Lombardy alone today.
    So maybe 350+ total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    How are all the people working in bars/nighclubs/resturants going to afford to pay rent in Dublin just to live somewhere? The dole would hardly cover most peoples rent in Dublin and in many cases wouldn't even cover it when you include bills. Many of these people won't have savings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes, it's not the economy that is of main concern but the societal impact. I think I saw a figure of four weeks being the maximum recommended number before the need to come back out of the lockdown again.

    How bad could the societal impact be?
    I know solitary confinement is a form of torture but are we talking total breakdown of law and order after 4 weeks?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,282 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I mean I can't see how they could possibly contain it in Africa given how much of a mess that continent is anyway - so as long as it is there it will keep getting into Europe if normal service ever resumes. Are we all just going to have to get it and become immune to it or is a vaccine required?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,333 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1239221732218744833



    Welcome but this is like shutting the horse after the stable door has bolted :pac:

    She doesn't have much authority over health or many of the other Covid issues.....these are non-EU matters (contrary to everything those Brexit guys were claiming about the EU being a dictatorship)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭jamesf85


    As long as it takes. Lot of morons out there obviously can't be trusted. Lock it down for a few months. Fines for parents of kids congregating as if they're on school holidays etc.

    That’s not realistic. So 50% + of adults don’t work for 3 or 4 months. Small businesses go bankrupt, multi nationals leave Ireland, banks go under or need another bail out, no taxes paid, no income for the government.

    Who pays for the medical staff, who pays for anything?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Jesus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    To be quite honest, there's not a lot you can do if you get a toothache other than go to the dentist, but just make sure you call ahead first and they may have some protocols in place.

    In the meantime just practice extremely good oral hygiene over the next few months and take good care of your teeth.

    Also, perhaps avoid activities that might lead to A&E trips. I would for example look at banning contact sports or any areas of leisure activity that tend to throw up a high number of A&E cases. Until this is over as there's no way we should be doing anything that might burden hospitals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Trump is trying to buy a vaccine from a German company for use by the USA only. He is a cartoon villain come to life.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard


    He has to look after Americans first, its his job. If Leo had a vaccine that would help everyone in Ireland but he shared with with the world instead so that say, 25% of Irish were looked after, would you be OK with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    what this virus has shown is that the Irish people have no ability to survive without alcohol

    Its actually very sad, let’s hope some generation of Irish people might release themselves from the stranglehold alcohol has over the country

    I think you will find most European countries have the same relationship with alcohol, you ever travel around italy, every cafe has people inside and out drinking away in peace. Now I do think we drink in excess but that's a different issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    paul71 wrote: »
    Heard nothing but I would imagine small animals might be deemed non essential and agricultural as essential.
    I think vets will be available for emergency treatment, if for no other reason than my own sanity.
    2 old dogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Ironicname wrote: »
    What an arsehole of a post.

    Wow. Such hero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭leck


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Still work in progress top countries and dates for new cases and deaths. Reason why it goes back so far is I put in suspect patient 0. USA deaths are hard to find out exact days.
    China Italy Iran S Korea Spain Germany France USA Switzerland

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu5mIBHYoW1cYgb5JvvjyfLoyKHBG2T8ZRvTK7o80L0/edit?usp=sharing
    Thanks for this spookwoman. Would you mind freezeing row 1 and columns A-C, would make it easier to scroll while knowing which data you're looking at. Viewers can't change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Jesus Italy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Christy42 wrote: »
    They announced a massive stimulus package last week?

    Seriously I think people forget that we are not ruled by the EU sometimes.

    This is an issue for countries to deal with (potentially working together). The EU is largely economic and announced a stimulus package

    I must have missed that. Have you a link? The only thing I’m getting on google is the EU saying go ahead to Germany’s own domestic package.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭d51984


    Folks just a quick update, thanks to my sisters I can now extend the below to the following areas

    Dublin 5, 9, 11, 13 ,15 and 17. All free to the elderly and we can do delivery's every 3 days.

    Also to all frontline staff, if your stuck during this crisis we can drop you and collect you from work.

    Just our little way of giving something back.

    Right, doing delivery's tomorrow. Ive bread, milk and toilet rolls and a few other bits to get a person by for a few days. Made up a few bags.

    Delivering FREE/No Charge for goods to elderly only who needs it. Ill just leave bag on front door.

    If you know anyone who wants a bag pm me. Dublin 5 and 17, but if needs I might be able to go further.

    Im just gonna leave bag on doorstep, knock and go. This will reduce contact.

    Please dont abuse it, pm for delivery details.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    He has to look after Americans first, its his job. If Leo had a vaccine that would help everyone in Ireland but he shared with with the world instead so that say, 25% of Irish were looked after, would you be OK with that?

    It isn't what he is doing. He is trying to get a vaccine and then sell it off to other countries while his own will be looked after either way (after it is developed).

    Well I say looked after. I mean probably "free" to pay a massive amount to get it. Land of the free and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Realistically how long can this lockdown/partial lockdown last? If they end it too soon it could possibly reignite coronavirus within the community but if they leave it too long it could leave a lot of people at wits end both mentally and financially.

    As long as it has to, which is probably a minimum of 2-3 months going by China, and the fact that we can't introduce such sweeping lockdown measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Fleetwoodmac


    amber2 wrote: »
    When you look outside at what a beautiful day it is today, no weather warnings this weekend, nature totally unaffected by what’s going on, it’s amazing just how vulnerable the human race is.

    Planted the spuds and some veg today... hope we wont be relying entirely on them!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Axfrderr wrote: »
    I think vets will be available for emergency treatment, if for no other reason than my own sanity.
    2 old dogs.

    I can't really see any major reason why vets would be of particular risk. They've limited interaction with humans, which are the issue here.

    If you need to deal with a vet, I would suggest the main thing is to ensure you contact them first and they should have some kind of system in place where a cat, dog or other animal can be quickly dropped in and collected, without much interaction.

    Most of the time, you're not sitting around in a vets anyway and if they've a good appointment system you certainly won't be hanging around.

    Vets are highly knowledgable about infection control, so I would suggest if you have concerns phone your vet and discuss them now, rather than when you think there could be a crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,516 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I’m all for containment, but humans need to live...

    Most of this living needs cash. It’s that simple..

    Gradual and staggered lockdown is needed, but not OTT lockdown...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    That’s not realistic. So 50% + of adults don’t work for 3 or 4 months. Small businesses go bankrupt, multi nationals leave Ireland, banks go under or need another bail out, no taxes paid, no income for the government.

    Who pays for the medical staff, who pays for anything?
    For every country this is a classic dilemma, reducing current economic activity to alleviate the short term societal impact, but creating a possibly greater economic hit in the longer term with consequential societal impact. The context for that decision is a period of increasingly lower worldwide activity driven by COVID-19.

    Given that all countries are facing the same dilemma, the only thing that appears certain is that the economic landscape is going to be quite different post COVID-19 to what it was before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    igCorcaigh wrote: »

    Scary. Is the rate increasing every day? Doesnt seem like the lockdown is doing much to stop the spread just yet. Scary times ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Still work in progress top countries and dates for new cases and deaths. Reason why it goes back so far is I put in suspect patient 0. USA deaths are hard to find out exact days.
    China Italy Iran S Korea Spain Germany France USA Switzerland

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu5mIBHYoW1cYgb5JvvjyfLoyKHBG2T8ZRvTK7o80L0/edit?usp=sharing

    If you want all the numbers for every country for every day, there are sites you can download it, such as:
    https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/blob/master/csse_covid_19_data

    There are visualisations based on these data, such as https://coronavirus.arik.io/
    Other sites that update during the day, such as https://virusncov.com/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    silverharp wrote: »

    Horrible. Fcuk, this is all really horrible. Part of me still cannot believe it.


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