CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

SeaBreezes · 15-03-2020 05:32PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Exactly. At 1st glance yes the Brits are taking a ridiculous approach.
But looking at the issue from a future point of view we don’t know which approach is right until next year.
Come next January we can look at Ireland vs England and see who made the right call

That's complete bull.

It's such a pity, the English ruling class have 'form' when it comes to culling populations.. It's just this is the first time they're doing it to their own..

It's a disgusting call to make, to shrug and say the old/vulnerable/immunocompromised are not worth the effort.

There is no defending it no matter what language they use.
Economy is king and the wealthy are completely in control.

I see the queen has cancelled her engagements, stopped working.
But won't give the same benefit to the poor.

Fffssss.

S.M.B. · 15-03-2020 05:32PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Thanks mate. I think I’m going to have to have a row with my managers. Sending us on packed tubes in and out of the airport isn’t going to cut the mustard anymore like.

I've been working from home the past 10 days, no way I'm getting the tube. Some colleagues are still happy to commute, mostly those within walking distance of the office.

It's not going to make that much difference in the long run as I'm too reliant on things like the NHS and the day to day economy to help get out the other end of this.

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 05:32PM

How many people are.going.to be out of.worknext.week

niallo27 · 15-03-2020 05:32PM

perrito caliente wrote: »

I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.

Exactly, people have all these issues with others going to the beach etc. but thousands have to go to work in the morning and work in much closer proximity to people.

NIMAN · 15-03-2020 05:33PM

rdwight wrote: »

I've always found the phrase "Thank you for your Service" used by civilians greeting military personnel in the US a bit irritating for no particular reason. But it's certainly appropriate for the front line medical people here during this crisis.

Maybe because US soldiers are usually forces of occupation involved in illegal wars?

Health care workers deserve every bit of praise they get.

sadie1502 · 15-03-2020 05:33PM

scamalert wrote: »

problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

And we don't have enough trained in ventilating people and looking after them.

BattleCorp · 15-03-2020 05:33PM

Anybody who thinks this lockdown thing is going to be for two weeks is in cloud cuckoo land.

It will be at least two months. And that's a minimum.

15-03-2020 05:33PM

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

This is a very disturbing tweet by Philip Boucher Hayes. It's a worrying reminder no one is immune here. A Dr on RTE radio this morning briefly discussed WHO stats until she was rudely cut off. One interesting point she made was that the median age of death is 57 years old. That means half of deaths occur above this age and half below.
That's worrying for everyone. If you're in your 20s and out in pubs, thats your parents you're very likely putting at risk, not just your grandparents, it's also you, albeit at less risk.

https://twitter.com/boucherhayes/status/1238904532039589889

Shes completely wrong. Theres a breakdown of fatalities by age group published every few days on the Italian website iss.it under its coronavirus section. Heres the stats when deaths reached 1016. 25 deaths were in the 50-59 age group for example. 6 deaths below 49. Italian doctors have said a few times the average age of death is 80+.

http://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Report+per+COVID+2019_ITA_Draft_2020-03-13_FINAL.pdf/6e449e0a-fdb4-0eab-6ed6-91e48250e571?t=1584130380404

fits · 15-03-2020 05:33PM

Dax Stale Roadwork wrote: »

Yeah, looking at the UK is like looking at a train wreak in slow motion, scary.

Best of luck.

The fcuking locomotive is approaching us all at a 100 miles an hour to be honest.

tobefrank321 · 15-03-2020 05:33PM

alastair wrote: »

There’s no greater risk from someone crossing a border, than there is from travelling any other equivalent distance. You planning on cutting Cork off from Limerick too?

Don't be ridiculous.

We should ban travel to and from hotspot countries.

To do otherwise would be bordering on national suicide.

Keep the virus out of the country as much as possible and then isolate the skiing fools returning from northern italy or punters from Cheltenham.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 15-03-2020 05:34PM

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

This is my concern for the students in my class tomorrow. I worry about it on any school holiday so this indefinite suspension of schools is going to be absolutely traumatic for many of them. They quite have literally no-one they can to turn to, and there's no end in sight in this. I work in a disadvantaged area special school. Many of the kids going there endure emotional abuse and savagery at home daily.

Yeah. Fuck. For some children, school is a haven.

d51984 · 15-03-2020 05:34PM

Right, doing delivery's tomorrow. Ive bread, milk and toilet rolls and a few other bits to get a person by for a few days. Made up a few bags.

Delivering FREE/No Charge for goods to elderly only who needs it. Ill just leave bag on front door.

If you know anyone who wants a bag pm me. Dublin 5 and 17, but if needs I might be able to go further.

Im just gonna leave bag on doorstep, knock and go. This will reduce contact.

Please dont abuse it, pm for delivery details.

champchamp · 15-03-2020 05:35PM

perrito caliente wrote: »

I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.

A very valid point. We were all complaining about the pubs staying open when tomorrow we're all going back to our places of work and will be in contact with colleagues. Surely the time has come to shut down non essential places of work for a couple of weeks?

spookwoman · 15-03-2020 05:35PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

That's complete bull.

It's such a pity, the English ruling class have 'form' when it comes to culling populations.. It's just this is the first time they're doing it to their own..

It's a disgusting call to make, to shrug and say the old/vulnerable/immunocompromised are not worth the effort.

There is no defending it no matter what language they use.
Economy is king and the wealthy are completely in control.

I see the queen has cancelled her engagements, stopped working.
But won't give the same benefit to the poor.

Fffssss.

The english ruling class starved their own as well. :rolleyes:

fits · 15-03-2020 05:36PM

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

This is my concern for the students in my class tomorrow. I worry about it on any school holiday so this indefinite suspension of schools is going to be absolutely traumatic for many of them. They quite have literally no-one they can to turn to, and there's no end in sight in this. I work in a disadvantaged area special school. Many of the kids going there endure emotional abuse and savagery at home daily.
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My son attends an early intervention preschool and some of his classmates are the same. This is going to be really tough for a lot of children.

NIMAN · 15-03-2020 05:36PM

champchamp wrote: »

A very valid point. We were all complaining about the pubs staying open when tomorrow we're all going back to our places of work and will be in contact with colleagues. Surely the time has come to shut down non essential places of work for a couple of weeks?

Watch this space.

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 05:36PM

champchamp wrote: »

A very valid point. We were all complaining about the pubs staying open when tomorrow we're all going back to our places of work and will be in contact with colleagues. Surely the time has come to shut down non essential places of work for a couple of weeks?

An awful lot will be closing out of economic necessity

Shn99 · 15-03-2020 05:37PM

Any estimates as to when the peak will be, and wether or not normal life will be curtailed til then

Kermit.de.frog · 15-03-2020 05:37PM

d51984 wrote: »

Right, doing delivery's tomorrow. Ive bread, milk and toilet rolls and a few other bits to get a person by for a few days. Made up a few bags.

Delivering FREE/No Charge for goods to elderly only who needs it. Ill just leave bag on front door.

If you know anyone who wants a bag pm me. Dublin 5 and 17, but if needs I might be able to go further.

Im just gonna leave bag on doorstep, knock and go. This will reduce contact.

Please dont abuse it, pm for delivery details.

Great seeing posts like this today.

ChikiChiki · 15-03-2020 05:38PM

d51984 wrote: »

Right, doing delivery's tomorrow. Ive bread, milk and toilet rolls and a few other bits to get a person by for a few days. Made up a few bags.

Delivering FREE/No Charge for goods to elderly only who needs it. Ill just leave bag on front door.

If you know anyone who wants a bag pm me. Dublin 5 and 17, but if needs I might be able to go further.

Im just gonna leave bag on doorstep, knock and go. This will reduce contact.

Please dont abuse it, pm for delivery details.

You sir/madam are a ****ing legend!

ITman88 · 15-03-2020 05:38PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

That's complete bull.

It's such a pity, the English ruling class have 'form' when it comes to culling populations.. It's just this is the first time they're doing it to their own..

It's a disgusting call to make, to shrug and say the old/vulnerable/immunocompromised are not worth the effort.

There is no defending it no matter what language they use.
Economy is king and the wealthy are completely in control.

I see the queen has cancelled her engagements, stopped working.
But won't give the same benefit to the poor.

Fffssss.

Ok.
What cull are you referring too, are they not asking the over 60 to isolate?

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 05:39PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

It's such a pity, the English ruling class have 'form' when it comes to culling populations.. It's just this is the first time they're doing it to their own..

When English people ask me about The Famine, I always try to get in the line "Yea, it was the worst famine in the history of the UK" just to give them something to think about.

joe40 · 15-03-2020 05:39PM

perrito caliente wrote: »

I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.

Exactly, going for a walk in the open air is fine. This is not going to be over soon. I went for a walk on the beach this afternoon, don't feel I put myself or anyone else at risk

NIMAN · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Anybody who thinks this lockdown thing is going to be for two weeks is in cloud cuckoo land.

It will be at least two months. And that's a minimum.

What odds the schools won't be back til September?

I can see that happening. Hopefully I am totally wrong.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Shes completely wrong. Theres a breakdown of fatalities by age group published every few days on the Italian website iss.it under its coronavirus section. Heres the stats when deaths reached 1016. 25 deaths were in the 50-59 age group for example. 6 deaths below 49. Italian doctors have said a few times the average age of death is 80+.

http://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Report+per+COVID+2019_ITA_Draft_2020-03-13_FINAL.pdf/6e449e0a-fdb4-0eab-6ed6-91e48250e571?t=1584130380404

Just because it doesn't kill you, doesn't mean you want to get it.
https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/coronavirus-ct-scans/

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

All of the people talking about how it'll only be 0.9% mortality should consider the following:

1. 20% of people will be hospitalised.

2. Many of these will develop Bilateral Interstitial Pneumonia.

3. Even if you survive this episode the long-term consequences can be devastating. There are many types of interstitial lung disease but mean survivals range from 2.5 to 7 years. Let's be optimistic and assume that with this it is 5 to 10 years.

Well, reducing the life expectancy of a large number of people in Ireland to 5 to 10 years and having these years be very limited in terms of their ability to do anything active and maybe people will begin to realise that even if we only have a 1% death rate now having a 9% rate of long-term complications from interstitial Lung Disease reducing life expectancy for this cohort to 5 to 10 years would be utterly devastating to the country and really drop average life expectancy for the next couple of decades.

There's a reason China is doing full lung transplants on survivors already.

People are just far too blase about this.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

weldoninhio · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

Just back from the pub there. Last few pints until this blows over. Great craic and good to see people spirits up despite all the scaremongering. Was an almost Xmas eve feel.

alastair · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous.

We should ban travel to and from hotspot countries.

To do otherwise would be bordering on national suicide.

Keep the virus out of the country as much as possible and then isolate the skiing fools returning from northern italy or punters from Cheltenham.

The virus is in the country. Anything useful that can be done from now on needs to accept that fact. No point in pretending we won’t have infectious people amongst us. The ‘skiing fools’ and Cheltenham punters have already returned. That horse has bolted.

niallo27 · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Anybody who thinks this lockdown thing is going to be for two weeks is in cloud cuckoo land.

It will be at least two months. And that's a minimum.

It's not viable we cant stop living for 2 months. What happens then, its starts up with 2 then 10 then 40 people infected and it all begins again.

beggars_bush · 15-03-2020 05:41PM

spookwoman wrote: »

The english ruling class starved their own as well. :rolleyes:

Don't forget WW1

Kermit.de.frog · 15-03-2020 05:42PM

Dinner time!

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP