CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Galwayguy35 · 15-03-2020 05:11PM

bekker wrote: »

After four years of waffling - they just don't know how to DO anything effective.

In fairness it's a difficult situation to have to deal with when things are changing on a daily basis, IMO they are doing a lot better than that gobsh1te across the water.

They need to make the call and close the pubs though asap.

alastair · 15-03-2020 05:11PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Exactly so use it as a measure to discourage travel. Why are you arguing against it?

Because it’s one thing discouraging travel where people are likely to expose themselves to infection (Planes, airports, terminals, coaches etc), and another to advocate for closing borders, where there’s no distinction between risk of infection either side of the border. If you practice good personal isolation, it’s an irrelevance.

bilston · 15-03-2020 05:11PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

You have a fascination with posting the same **** all morning.

And yes the UK stance is moronic. They'll come to their senses yet.

Just trying to be seen to be different.

Or doing what they think is right based on science.

Apart from school closures what other major differences are there between the UK and Ireland at the moment?

Not a loaded question, I'm genuinely interested to know.

Funsterdelux · 15-03-2020 05:11PM

Burts Bee wrote: »

Thanks. When you say don't touch anything - we'd often collect fallen twigs and branches - how could virus get on them?

Go on the assumption that the virus is on everything, seriously! Even opening a gate, crossing a fence.

Even your car/ door handle, someone could have touch it.

fritzelly · 15-03-2020 05:12PM

Cannot believe no one has posted this devastating news yet
Dancing with the Stars will finish tonight

(alas probably not permanently)

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 05:12PM

nocoverart wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better are we handling it than the UK?

11 to the power of 11.

greenfield21 · 15-03-2020 05:12PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Given that there's a two week lag between infection and showing symptoms and that tests don't detect cases until they are symptomatic.

Policies have been introduced in the last few days. We don't really know what's going on in any real way.

The UK chief medical officer said the other day that he suspects there is 10k undetected cases in the UK. We don't know what's going on.

I think the average time to show symptoms is five days.

Bob24 · 15-03-2020 05:12PM

Germany to introduce border check with France (but not completely closing the border).

Besides our government and the French one, I don’t think there is any other European government left saying that border checks/closures are unnecessary or not possible.

spookwoman · 15-03-2020 05:14PM

Lower than snakesh*t
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1239219373031731200?s=20

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 05:14PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

I'm trying to balance against the moronic tricolour waving idiots on here, when the enemy is the virus and it alone. It's like the richer neighbour causing jealousy and stupid posts. I'll call it out all day. No one is perfect, we're all going to suffer, and let's see how quickly we get out of this mess.

Balance? This isn't a football match or even a political argument along nationalistic lines. The Brit approach is monumental stupidity, absolutely pig ignorant stupidity. And the problem we have is eejits in the North are currently following their idiotic lead on this. If you're trying to say any different you've got your head in the sand.

niallo27 · 15-03-2020 05:14PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Lads and Ladies.

Ventilators. How hard can they be to manufacture in big numbers. Why isn't global production of these ramped up to thousands daily?

Anyone have any insight into these ?

Because it's a very specialised buisness. We are currently building a line for making lens and it will take a year and half at least before we can get the first lens to the market. Machine builders that make lines to produce these ventilators can only work so fast and to make things worse some of the best machine builders in the world are in northern italy such as the likes of marchesini and IMA

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 05:14PM

This could be the undoing of BJ if it goes pear shaped

Which it looks like doing over the next.month or so

15-03-2020 05:15PM

bilston wrote: »

Or doing what they think is right based on science.

Apart from school closures what other major differences are there between the UK and Ireland at the moment?

Not a loaded question, I'm genuinely interested to know.

We've cancelled major public events.

They are still allowing half marathons etc

Humberto Salazar · 15-03-2020 05:15PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

What's that supposed to mean? Are you disagreeing with the Irish government approach to this and agreeing with the stupid Brits, is that what you're saying?

Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

SharpshooterTom · 15-03-2020 05:15PM

232 new cases

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland account for 77 of them.

155 for England that means. Looks a little low??

joe40 · 15-03-2020 05:15PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

I am planning to do a writeup of that if Boards allows me a thread to keep my answers together so they can be found easily...

But in the meantime I can say this. Their strategy seems to be based on the idea that once they get 60% infected they'll have herd immunity and if they can get to 60% in a controlled fashion they can stop their ventilator resources being overwhelmed and keep the death rate down to 2% instead of closing in on the 10% it would be without ventilators.

I think that theoretically it could work so long as you are willing to accept high casualties ( 60 Million x 60% infected x 2% mortality = 720,000 ) of up to three quarters of a million dead.

If we didn't have the examples of Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Shanghai to look at I think the British population might tolerate their plan BUT with those examples of the impact of rigid lockdowns and massive contact tracing leading to very low infection rates and death rates I don't think the British plan is actually sustainable.

I believe that individual groupings within British society will act unilaterally and close themselves and I think fear as the death rate rises will cause people to self-isolate such that they don't get the 60% infected rate they are looking for before October --- when they expect a much larger wave of illness will sweep the world.

So, I think it might work in a laboratory and on paper but I don't give it much chance in the real world. It doesn't take into account the human factor.

I think Ireland needs to get a lot stricter than it currently is but already our national strategy for tackling this is MUCH better than the UK's. I think we are going to come out of this a lot better than them --- which is sad because people or people and saying that means more people dying in the UK than should. Very sad

I think that is a really good analysis of the British approach and possible outcome. I don't agree with their approach but then again I have zero expertise in this area.

I do however accept that the British response is from chief medical officer and not just purely political. I believe they are doing what they think will provide the best long term solution, not heartlessly culling the population as some here suggest.

Strumms · 15-03-2020 05:15PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Big backlash against the vintners on the news over their behavior. Good to see.

Great to see, only interested in lining their pockets at the expense of the health and wellbeing of the population...

youreadthat · 15-03-2020 05:16PM

Syncpolice wrote: »

This could be the undoing of BJ if it goes pear shaped

Which it looks like doing over the next.month or so

Undoing? Their majority is huge and the next election is in 5 years...

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 05:16PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Lower than snakesh*t
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1239219373031731200?s=20

An utter scumbag. When this blows over some retribution will be called for with a few idiots like Trump and Johnson

Away With The Fairies · 15-03-2020 05:16PM

Most of my weekends were always boring. I now have an excuse to stay away from people.

emmabrighton · 15-03-2020 05:17PM

Does anyone on here have it yet? Be interesting to get a first hand experience of symptoms etc. Like, my hypochondria kicked in since a coworker coughed in the office last week. My chest feels like I just burst out of a burning building and I have a headache that won’t go away. Definitely dying of hypochondria if not Coronavirus

hetuzozaho · 15-03-2020 05:17PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Just announced they are closing but still packed ... ffs.

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=dublinpub

That's old footage I think.

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 05:17PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

They are wrong. Their approach to this is utter stupidity and extremely dangerous. Are you actually disagreeing with that?

scamalert · 15-03-2020 05:17PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Lads and Ladies.

Ventilators. How hard can they be to manufacture in big numbers. Why isn't global production of these ramped up to thousands daily?

Anyone have any insight into these ?

problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

Bob24 · 15-03-2020 05:18PM

Syncpolice wrote: »

This could be the undoing of BJ if it goes pear shaped

Which it looks like doing over the next.month or so

I think he will just change course next week and at the end of the day the U.K. will be the same as other European countries: containment but starting too late. No better but no worse.

otnomart · 15-03-2020 05:18PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

There are many places in southern italy which have free ventilators but it wouldn't be sensible to send sick people from Lombardy down there because that would just spread the infection.

Patients from Bergamo in Northern Italy have been transferred to Tuscany and even Puglia and Sicily (by military plane) to be treated in ICUs there.
https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-piano/2020/03/15/news/coronavirus-pazienti-da-bergamo-al-sud-con-un-volo-militare-1.38593783

ZX7R · 15-03-2020 05:18PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

In terms of the infection rate, we're actually worse, it's the eventual death rate that will be most telling.

That is mainly down to population
I believe

arybvtcw0eolkf · 15-03-2020 05:18PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Hell, I have a Consultant colleague and friend who is out on fairly long-term sick leave with a very serious issue who is accelerating his return to work so he can be back by the end of the month. He's literally sprinting towards the fire instead of away from it. It makes me proud of the front line staff.

We're the same in the defence forces, each and every one of my comrades are chomping at the bit to help out.

I'm on standby from 08:00 tomorrow morning to assist the HSE, I've been told I might be essential to my unit so I've volunteered my after work hours unpaid.

My brother is an AP with the NAS, he's suppose to be off over this weekend and tomorrow but he's stayed on to bring the fight to the virus.

Whether you're frontline medical, military,An Garda or civilian this is a fight where every man, woman and child can do their bit. There's no one useless.

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 05:19PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

I was talking about the busker outside earlier

Fake post. You were late to the busker party.

So you can now use yourself as a prime example of fake news and posting a feed saying live music when there wasn't anymore.

Choose your wordings more carefully you can see how many were thinking you were referring to the trad music session

15-03-2020 05:19PM

Strumms wrote: »

Great to see, only interested in lining their pockets at the expense of the health and wellbeing of the population...

shower of self-interested cnuts in general.

(vintners)

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP