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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Does anyone on here have it yet? Be interesting to get a first hand experience of symptoms etc. Like, my hypochondria kicked in since a coworker coughed in the office last week. My chest feels like I just burst out of a burning building and I have a headache that won’t go away. Definitely dying of hypochondria if not Coronavirus

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0315/1123371-patient/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭kyote00


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/19/sabisky-row-dominic-cummings-criticised-over-designer-babies-post
    Strumms wrote: »
    Great to see, only interested in lining their pockets at the expense of the health and wellbeing of the population...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    The US has supposedly added 151 today according to worldometers.

    But I've noticed the US gets multiple changes throughout the day on worldometers, do they update on a state by state basis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The US has supposedly added 151 today according to worldometers.

    But I've noticed the US gets multiple changes throughout the day on worldometers, do they update on a state by state basis?

    Every state seems to release their own numbers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Wanted to go for a pint but most the pubs in Galway are closed bar McGettigans which is packed with alcoholics cus they have nowhere else to go.

    A certain pub in Woodquay said their were closed but they just have a fella on the door with curtains closed letting alchos in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    I can't imagine Italy's tourism industry recovering anywhere close to the time it will recover in Ireland.


    I can imagine that, when Italy recovers, they will ban entries from Countries in which the virus will stiil be circulating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The UK is asleep at the wheel. I work for a large UK union and they’re insisting on sending us to work in Heathrow regularly; one of my colleagues is already in isolation with a dry cough and shallow breathing. We’re in deep sh*t here I think.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    scamalert wrote: »
    problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

    That’s also the man power issue.

    I think I read that an ICU isn’t just the bed itself, but the ability to have doctors and nurses who are properly qualified to tend to the patient in them. It’s not just shoving a tube down a throat and presto, the person is saved. They need to be monitored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    otnomart wrote: »
    Patients from Bergamo in Northern Italy have been transferred to Tuscany and even Puglia and Sicily (by military plane) to be treated in ICUs there.
    https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-piano/2020/03/15/news/coronavirus-pazienti-da-bergamo-al-sud-con-un-volo-militare-1.38593783

    I think they are playing a dangerous game there. I guess they are taking precautions, but they are taking a risk of spreading the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,776 ✭✭✭threeball


    Sky showing kids shoving how can I help notes through pensioners doors.

    You could fcuk off for a start and stop shoving snot covered slips through my door


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Bob24 wrote: »
    I think he will just change course next week and at the end of the day the U.K. will be the same as other European countries: containment but starting too late. No better but no worse.

    Will be interesting to see.what sort of BS he trots out.to cover for the mistake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    The UK must be regretting Brexit:

    The EU has announced restrictions on exports of masks and other protective medical equipment as it seeks to ensure its own supplies for the fight against the coronavirus epidemic.

    "We adopted today an export authorisation scheme for protective equipment. This means that such medical goods can only be exported to non-EU countries with the explicit authorisation of the EU governments," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in a video posted on Twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.


    Agree - it is certainly not pig ignorant. It is certainly a big gamble, though.


    If their understanding and prediction of the path of the virus turns out to be correct then they will feel thy have won. That is, if the virus returns in a new wave later in the year and they largely escape because of herd immunity, while the rest of Europe goes under again with even more deaths. But if that doesn't happen it will look a disastrous choice. In any event, it will be very difficult for them to see it through in the meantime because of the short-term human cost and the pressure of public opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    So you can now use yourself as a prime example of fake news and posting a feed saying live music when there wasn't anymore.
    But there was when he posted it. It made me smile.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    scamalert wrote: »
    problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

    yes a ventilator isn't going to necessarily save a person.

    it's just obviously such a heightened emotive subject around having to choose who would get access to one or not due to shortages

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30558-4/fulltext
    Not only capable of causing pneumonia, COVID-19 may also cause damage to other organs such as the heart, the liver, and the kidneys, as well as to organ systems such as the blood and the immune system.3, 4, 5 Patients eventually die of multiple organ failure, shock, acute respiratory distress syndrome, heart failure, arrhythmias, and renal failure.5, 6 We should therefore pay attention to potential multi-organ injuries and the protection and prevention thereof in the treatment of COVID-19.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Alright wrote: »
    I was surprised today when I went for a drive. I went expecting a ghost town but I was very wrong. Driving along the Clontarf seafront and onto Causeway Road the place was as full as any good summers day. Ireland has been asked to practice social distancing but as of yesterday the country was also given slightly contradictory messages that we can continue to spend time outdoors, by yourself or with your kids - walking or playing in open spaces are both safe as long as respectful social distancing and hand hygiene are maintained.
    In other news A the mob are mostly blissfully stupid and/or over attached to what is normality and routine. It's a comfort blanket for many, if not most in the face of a possible threat. Doubly so with an invisible enemy they can neither see nor in most cases understand. I'd nearly be willing to bet the scenes like that are actually up rather than down compared to this time last year. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

    I can certainly understand families with young kids feeling cooped in and pooped out from buying bogroll by the gross thinking let's go outside for some fresh air. That's very understandable. However anyone who drove to somewhere like that and didn't think "eh hang on, this is probably a risk to me and mine and others" and drove home(like an earlier poster who clearly has good sense did), is - and I make no exceptions nor apologies for thinking and saying it - a 100% 24Kt dribbling fucking imbecile. It would be bad enough if the virus took them out(though I'm morally debating the badness in my head), but the sadness is it is just as likely to kill non imbeciles, especially those in the frontlines in emergency and health services who will have to deal with their recklessness.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    We've cancelled major public events.

    They are still allowing half marathons etc
    They have shut down sports - from tomorrow! Rugby being played this weekend as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

    Exactly. At 1st glance yes the Brits are taking a ridiculous approach.
    But looking at the issue from a future point of view we don’t know which approach is right until next year.
    Come next January we can look at Ireland vs England and see who made the right call


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    FTA69 wrote: »
    The UK is asleep at the wheel. I work for a large UK union and they’re insisting on sending us to work in Heathrow regularly; one of my colleagues is already in isolation with a dry cough and shallow breathing. We’re in deep sh*t here I think.

    Yeah, looking at the UK is like looking at a train wreak in slow motion, scary.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Yeah, looking at the UK is like looking at a train wreak in slow motion, scary.

    Best of luck.

    Thanks mate. I think I’m going to have to have a row with my managers. Sending us on packed tubes in and out of the airport isn’t going to cut the mustard anymore like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    We're the same in the defence forces, each and every one of my comrades are chomping at the bit to help out.

    I'm on standby from 08:00 tomorrow morning to assist the HSE, I've been told I might be essential to my unit so I've volunteered my after work hours unpaid.

    My brother is an AP with the NAS, he's suppose to be off over this weekend and tomorrow but he's stayed on to bring the fight to the virus.

    Whether you're frontline medical, military,An Garda or civilian this is a fight where every man, woman and child can do their bit. There's no one useless.

    You are a Legend and I salute you. Little tear in my eye as I write this . The best of humanity in a simple post .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,241 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Does anyone on here have it yet? Be interesting to get a first hand experience of symptoms etc. Like, my hypochondria kicked in since a coworker coughed in the office last week. My chest feels like I just burst out of a burning building and I have a headache that won’t go away. Definitely dying of hypochondria if not Coronavirus

    https://twitter.com/Narrowthefield/status/1238969032528855041?s=19


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    This is my concern for the students in my class tomorrow. I worry about it on any school holiday so this indefinite suspension of schools is going to be absolutely traumatic for many of them. They quite have literally no-one they can to turn to, and there's no end in sight in this. I work in a disadvantaged area special school. Many of the kids going there endure emotional abuse and savagery at home daily.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭paul71


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Because it's a very specialised buisness. We are currently building a line for making lens and it will take a year and half at least before we can get the first lens to the market. Machine builders that make lines to produce these ventilators can only work so fast and to make things worse some of the best machine builders in the world are in northern italy such as the likes of marchesini and IMA


    This is a very good point. As consumers we often associate manufacturing with the areas that have manufacturers who produce consumer products, Germans, Chineses, British. The Italians are not really readily associated with that, but I have often been struck by how many of the factories I have been in operate Italian machines.
    They are the guys who make the machines that make our products, our supply lines are safe for consumer goods like bogroll :rolleyes:
    But changing factory production lines for the production of ventilators is likely going to be hard if the Italian machine makers are lock down at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Thanks mate. I think I’m going to have to have a row with my managers. Sending us on packed tubes in and out of the airport isn’t going to cut the mustard anymore like.

    I was thinking that a few times. I've been a regular visitor to London so of course I know what the tube is like a rush hour, its hard to describe to someone who's never been there.

    I can only imagine the tube is like a super breeding ground for the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The US has supposedly added 151 today according to worldometers.

    But I've noticed the US gets multiple changes throughout the day on worldometers, do they update on a state by state basis?

    To be honest that site is only useful for countries that only report once a day.

    Better off looking elsewhere online for up to date numbers on other specific countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.

    It's low risk. Nothing wrong with it. Just be mindful of touching surfaces such as chairs, gate handles etc and keep a 2mtr distance from others.

    It's being in locations where there are surfaces and gatherings that the risk jumps significantly.

    I went for a 10000 step walk today but instead of popping in to the cafe for a coffee as I normally would I made one at home.

    All about reducing the risk level.

    Now going to the pub on the other hand........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    The UK must be regretting Brexit:

    The EU has announced restrictions on exports of masks and other protective medical equipment as it seeks to ensure its own supplies for the fight against the coronavirus epidemic.

    "We adopted today an export authorisation scheme for protective equipment. This means that such medical goods can only be exported to non-EU countries with the explicit authorisation of the EU governments," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in a video posted on Twitter.

    They will have their own plants. Germany has already stopped shipments to Switzerland and you can guarantee the eu countries will be holding onto every mask produced for their own countries and dont plan on sharing with their neighbours


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    I'm a bit confused about all the fuss about people going out for a walk. I mean, myself and thousands of others are going back to work tomorrow. A Sunday afternoon walk is grand.

    Anyone who is complaining about someone going for a walk (as long as it's away from crowds) is frankly an idiot.


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