CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 04:56PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Just announced they are closing but still packed ... ffs.

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=dublinpub

That's not a live video, go to the outside street view the door is fecking shut

Stop with the fake news

cnocbui · 15-03-2020 04:56PM

Syncpolice wrote: »

Walking or driving?

Come on, this is not the time to be worrying about St Patrick's carbon footprint. More pressing matters abound.

rossie1977 · 15-03-2020 04:57PM

wakka12 wrote: »

The growth in the UK seems stable though,
Compared to other biggest countries in Europe Spain France Italy Germany where growth seems to be accelerating daily

UK is about a week behind France and Germany and 2 weeks behind Italy though. Also questionable how much testing they are doing.

Acceleration in Italy has slowed in recent days. Was 25% growth per day, fell to 18% two days ago but did rise back to 20% yesterday

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 04:58PM

alastair wrote: »

Once again - it’s a measure to discourage travel. But it’s no more effective than discouraging domestic travel. The virus is already in the community.

Exactly so use it as a measure to discourage travel. Why are you arguing against it?

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 04:58PM

Burts Bee wrote: »

Just wondering about this. What about hiking where there will be no one else? I live v rurally and on most walks I don't meet anyone..

Well, if you don't see anyone and don't touch anything someone else might have touched and infected then you're pretty safe.

I don't live in such a rural idyll so, for me, going out involves bumping into lots of people, hence my different choice.

ZX7R · 15-03-2020 04:58PM

nocoverart wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better are we handling it than the UK?

We can answer that question in about 6 months time

SafeSurfer · 15-03-2020 04:58PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

I am planning to do a writeup of that if Boards allows me a thread to keep my answers together so they can be found easily...

But in the meantime I can say this. Their strategy seems to be based on the idea that once they get 60% infected they'll have herd immunity and if they can get to 60% in a controlled fashion they can stop their ventilator resources being overwhelmed and keep the death rate down to 2% instead of closing in on the 10% it would be without ventilators.

I think that theoretically it could work so long as you are willing to accept high casualties ( 60 Million x 60% infected x 2% mortality = 720,000 ) of up to three quarters of a million dead.

If we didn't have the examples of Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Shanghai to look at I think the British population might tolerate their plan BUT with those examples of the impact of rigid lockdowns and massive contact tracing leading to very low infection rates and death rates I don't think the British plan is actually sustainable.

I believe that individual groupings within British society will act unilaterally and close themselves and I think fear as the death rate rises will cause people to self-isolate such that they don't get the 60% infected rate they are looking for before October --- when they expect a much larger wave of illness will sweep the world.

So, I think it might work in a laboratory and on paper but I don't give it much chance in the real world. It doesn't take into account the human factor.

Is it expected that the virus, or a mutated form of it will re emerge this Autumn/Winter?

nthclare · 15-03-2020 04:58PM

Spook_ie wrote: »

That's not a live video, go to the outside street view the door is fecking shut

Stop with the fake news

So is it on a loop then?

paul71 · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

Computer Science Student wrote: »

Fake news.

Seriously sometimes people need to step back and just double-check the claim they are perpetuating. Are you implying that Trump wants to purchase the vaccine for US only and will charge an extortionate rate to every other country?

Not only is he not that inhumane, he isn't dumb enough to actually go ahead with something that would so obviously vilify him in the media.

I am not certain its fake news, it is been pretty widely commented on in German Media. I'll defer my opinion until I hear more.

threeball · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

youreadthat wrote: »

If only they’d closed the schools! Derpppp

Way more than schools. Live tv shows with audiences, marathons, sports events, the list goes on. Plus they have far more tourist traffic than us.

Duke of Url · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

Spook_ie wrote: »

Fake news it's shut

I was talking about the busker outside earlier

Fake post. You were late to the busker party.

Hurrache · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

nyarlothothep wrote: »

This is rather poignant

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1238924372867461123

And rather old too, it's nothing to do with the virus.

Alright · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

I was surprised today when I went for a drive. I went expecting a ghost town but I was very wrong. Driving along the Clontarf seafront and onto Causeway Road the place was as full as any good summers day. Ireland has been asked to practice social distancing but as of yesterday the country was also given slightly contradictory messages that we can continue to spend time outdoors, by yourself or with your kids - walking or playing in open spaces are both safe as long as respectful social distancing and hand hygiene are maintained.

I think the photo attached shows that people are not respecting any real type of social distancing. No shock to this forum. I know the picture shows cars but I didn't want to go taking photos of randomers out walking. I expect the country will have to be locked down soon to slow the infection rate.

bekker · 15-03-2020 04:59PM

Useful source of comparative data on worldwide COVID-19 cases, including rough growth rates and bar charts. Oxford University Data Lab.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

threeball · 15-03-2020 05:00PM

paul71 wrote: »

I am not certain its fake news, it is been pretty widely commented on in German Media. I'll defer my opinion until I hear more.

You've obviously never listened to trump speak.

rossie1977 · 15-03-2020 05:00PM

As far as UK response goes, France tried the herd immunity thing initially last couple of weeks. They are now moving toward Chinese and Italian models.

Give the UK a week and everything will begin to shut down there too.

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 05:00PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

The feed is meant to be live no ? And the website states its that pub and it looks daylight out on the feed, i dunno unless its from yesterday

It's not live

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

nocoverart wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better are we handling it than the UK?

The stupidity of the Brit response is off the scale. We probably need to do more and we're adapting as we go along, comparing to the stupid Brits isn't helpful at all. The Chinese have shown the way. The stupid Brit approach is moronic and should be vilified.

mick987 · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

C’est la vie. Life goes on.

Not for a lot of people it wont, hope for your sake they are not anybody you care for.

SharpshooterTom · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

nocoverart wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better are we handling it than the UK?

Long term the UK will be worse, and thats by design as the UK wants to give immunity to 60% of its population.

Their actions in terms of banning public gatherings also are slower so eventually their numbers will be similar to France/Germany who have acted quicker than them.

The UK's economy might be better off though, thats the top Tory priority.

Spanish Eyes · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

Haven't had time to read back at the minute, but something occurs to me.

Regarding the UK approach and ours, politics should NEVER come in to it now. Shut up SF, shut up Arlene, do what is best for YOUR community and for us here down South.

But am getting a tiny feeling that Arlene is not for turning against UK policy on this.

Calm, cool, rational, and empathetic heads are needed now from the Assembly. We are an Island Nation. I get it that the Unionists want to follow Britain, but there comes a time when the good of all has to prevail..... This is not political, and it could be life saving.

Ger Roe · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

nthclare wrote: »

So is it on a loop then?

Yep, that bloke has been sitting on the stool strumming his guitar for years.
He was there every time I looked at that camera, even before all this.

Kermit.de.frog · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

Switzerland +842 cases, 1 new death today.

ChikiChiki · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

fritzelly wrote: »

St Patrick is currently walking round Temple Bar driving the virus out

Modern day St Patrick clearing it out in 2020 BMW 5 series.

BorneTobyWilde · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

Is Ireland working on a Vaccine ? I thought we had the best of the best biopharmaceutical companies in the world?

wellwhynot · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

Pseudonym121

Thanks for posting. I have a few questions you may be able to answer:

Dr. John Campbell said Vitamin D could help stop the virus getting into your lungs. What is your view on that?

There have been reports that chloroquine is being used to treat and remdesivir on a compassionate basis. Do we have access to these drugs?

When will we see peak in Ireland?

I know we got our first official case on March 1. When do you think it arrived here?

TIA

nthclare · 15-03-2020 05:01PM

Drove from Corofin in Clare, Lahinch is jointed, Fanore is thronged with people.
Ballyvaughan has loads of cars parked outside monks... Usually monks are in solitude but it looks like there's a gregorian gathering there.
Village in Ballyvaughan is quite enough, think ill turn off before Kinvara lol

Humberto Salazar · 15-03-2020 05:02PM

The fascination with bashing the UK over COVID-19 on this thread is eye opening. All anti Brexit posters too no doubt, there has to be a link.

ITman88 · 15-03-2020 05:02PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But the two are not mutually exclusive.

How are things going to be if you are alive but you have no money left for food because all the employers had to shut down and could not employ or pay anyone.

Or if this no food available because all the suppliers/producers were out of business and could not supply/produce anything.

People think it's a binary choice, it's not, businesses have to keep going to keep people alive, the economy has to continue to function.

I tried to articulate this many times during the week and made a mess of it, sounded like I was playing down the virus and got dismantled by other posters.

What you have said is exactly what can’t be ignored and is on a par with the virus effects.

What I tried to articulate was that the economy is exactly what has increased our life expectancy and increased quality of life for the vulnerable.

Excellent post though.

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 05:02PM

paul71 wrote: »

And there was another similarity. The silk road from China to Northern Italy, then to the rest of Europe.

And rat rhymes with bat... OMG :eek:

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