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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • #5792
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    In Italy 12% needing respirators were under 50

    Yes but that isn't to say that 12% of under 50s needed respirators


  • #5793
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    kingshankly wrote: »
    Think we need to get a sticky of all the pubs that closed on their own esteem and back them when all this blows over

    110% agree.


  • #5794
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BlackEdelweiss wrote: »
    We might be hours from the apocalypse but can we not resort to calling the north part of the uk please. We have got this far, no point falling apart at the last minute!

    What shall we call it then, Trevor?


  • #5795
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    ErnestBorgnine wrote: »
    There's not a thread on the site that the obsessed won't make about Brexit & Trump and bore the bollocks off the rest of us.

    I don’t even have a bollocks and it’s already bored off me with the UK this and Trump that :D


  • #5796
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I read a lot about ICU beds but I would imagine based on what other countries are doing, you don't need full ICU for this? You need respiratory equipment and that, but not the full shebang that keeps people alive after car crashes and that?

    I see that China gave a lot of this stuff to Italy in a gesture of good will. Do you think Ireland will be able to source and set up this stuff next to normal beds?


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  • #5797
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Mortality rate up to 7.8%.

    By the end of today, Europe could have more deaths than China. By this time next week Italy alone could have more deaths than China.


  • #5798
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Anyone have to pics handy of the garda cars bought from Enterprise or Eurocar?

    Very much doubt it!?
    That post is spreading quicker than any virus, the guy is a moron


  • #5799
    Ironicname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    blade1 wrote:
    Thanks Ironicname. I suppose all we can do is talk to her on the phone each day. But anytime someone phones her she see to forget they soon after. Yesterday she was asking where her sister was and why she hasn't been around. She's dead with 15 years.

    That's all we can do.

    I'm holed up with a pregnant wife and my daughter away from my mam who is 81. I've had to take my 9 year old daughter away from her (she used to stay there for a few days during the week and they were best mates) to try and protect her.

    It breaks my heart to think they may never see each other again.


  • #5800
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So Bojo's plan is to hide all old people and carry on as normal. :confused:

    #science


  • #5801
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    voluntary wrote: »
    Was there a breakdown how many of them diabetic?

    No breakdown, I took that figure from this article
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-update-young-people-hospital-luca-lorini-bergamo-a9402531.html


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  • #5802
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I read a lot about ICU beds but I would imagine based on what other countries are doing, you don't need full ICU for this? You need respiratory equipment and that, but not the full shebang that keeps people alive after car crashes and that?

    I see that China gave a lot of this stuff to Italy in a gesture of good will. Do you think Ireland will be able to source and set up this stuff next to normal beds?



    We had 400 ventilators ordered from Italy from before their outbreak. And now they’re “unsure if they will come”.
    I would imagine they 100% won’t be coming.

    Currently we have 250 ventilators with 6 on order ...


  • #5803
    vickers209
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭vickers209


    I do fast deliverys locally and last night the town seemed quieter than a normal Saturday night but was a few still knocking around pubs smoking, it was more like a sunday evening,

    Roads where very quiet after 8pm but uptake of deliverys seemed normal which i thought might have been down due to the virus,

    Alot of people still paying cash also which im uneasy about i have a bottle of sanitizer with me used every time i had to handle cash,

    i see on fb some of the local pubs are closing from today for foreseeable too hard to regulate numbers.
    id say most of rest will follow suit just hope they dont wait till paddys day is over first,


  • #5804
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Axfrderr wrote: »
    As the light declines.....

    While my cigar gently weeps


  • #5805
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Be great if social media like FB etc. could be shut down for a fortnight or something. Radio and TV the only sources of verified information. I know it can't/won't be done, but honestly this type of stuff is frightening people.

    We are preparing for a shut down in our house, but hoping for the best. What will be will be.

    But its good for a laugh too, I just had a glance at Jim Corr's twatter acc

    Globalist agenda in full swing and then contrary

    Globalism is over.

    It will never recover after this.

    Nationalism/populism will accelerate around the world.

    Borders will be respected again.


  • #5806
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Logged in here to find out what’s happening in Ireland but every post is about UK.

    I've told you a thousand times before..
    Don't be exaggerating!


  • #5807
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Ironicname wrote: »
    That's all we can do.


    It breaks my heart to think they may never see each other again.

    It’s so hard, I’ve asked my folks to steer clear of us (two smallies), it’s breaking their hearts they still want to come. But I keep saying we want you here for them when they have a treatment / vaccine in place. If we can all do the right thing and give health services time it will help. Stay strong all we can do.


  • #5808
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    The UK response is looking more and more sensible as the days pass.

    Isolate the over 70-'s and get the herd immunisation up in the general population with the minimum negative effect on the economy.

    We may well be looking at their politicians and health expects with envy in 6-12 months time.

    have to get my head around this.
    wonder how many over-70s live in a household with under-70s...and how do over-70s work life without interacting in some way with under-70s ?
    how do the ones living on their own get shopping say ?


  • #5809
    FluffyTowel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭FluffyTowel


    This is a hypothetical and possibly selfish question, but one which is on my mind.

    My dad would be in a high risk group. He's over 70, has various conditions including borderline emphysema, and is on lots of meds for years. Saying that, his constitution is super strong, and he has survived so much that would have knocked another person. But he is getting older obviously.

    I'm an Irish citizen, but a German resident.

    If, God forbid, he caught this down the line, and if measures are out into place to stop travel, would I still be allowed into Ireland as a citizen? But would there even be flights? And would I even be allowed to see him? And then would I be able to get back to Germany?

    I know nobody has the answer to these questions, but thoughts would be appreciated. My thoughts are that the likelihood might not be so good.

    I also know that travel restrictions are there for a reason. I'm just thinking this out as, in any situation previously imagined, if your dad gets seriously sick, you get to him as soon as possible. I can't imagine not doing that.

    Thanks


  • #5810
    White_hills
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 ✭White_hills


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Some pubs are more socially responsible. When all this is over I will make sure to spend a couple of nights socialising in Grogans and Anseo and bring my friends.

    Other pubs are just absolute gougers. No moral responsibility. Looking at The Auld Dubliner and The Temple Bar who have crowds in every weekend. They would be cashed up to weather this.

    Anseo is a great spot, great Guinness and great supporters of the more left field Irish music scene.

    I popped out last night to get a loaf of bread. Couple coming out of a packed restaurant on Camden St (not all of the restaurants on Camden St. were packed mind and others deff had social distancing setup) were talking about what pub they would go into next and they decided on Anseo, wish I had walked behind them to see their faces when they arrived to a shut door.


  • #5811
    Axfrderr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    BlackEdelweiss wrote: »
    We might be hours from the apocalypse but can we not resort to calling the north part of the uk please. We have got this far, no point falling apart at the last minute!
    The (sad) fact that they are is going to have a massive effect on how this plays out.


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  • #5812
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,757 ✭✭✭threeball


    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    Very much doubt it!?
    That post is spreading quicker than any virus, the guy is a moron

    If someone spreads info like that and hasn't the balls to show their face you know it's absolute bollocks. Probably just in the door from the pub.


  • #5813
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    jackboy wrote: »
    It is understandable. This could put a lot of the pubs and restaurants in Ireland out of business with the associated massive job losses. It’s hard for them to rationalize stopping doing something which is completely legal and which the government has not even suggested should stop.

    Business is going to be affected regardless but by acting now and not next week we might manage to reduce the length of time places are closed and any damage done. I work in the catering supplies area and we've seen a pretty dramatic drop in business over the last week or so with many of our customers talking about closing but to quote an earlier poster here, I'd rather be laid off, than laid out.


  • #5814
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    Scotty # wrote: »
    Mortality rate up to 7.8%.

    By the end of today, Europe could have more deaths than China. By this time next week Italy alone could have more deaths than China.

    That's sobering. Although one has to keep in mind that depends on official figures from China. I suspect there are swathes of Chinese deaths that have been unaccounted for


  • #5815
    meath4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭meath4sam


    Is it ok to bring the kids to the beach for a walk?


  • #5816
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    If we just look at death rates here then the problem is if it spreads through younger population, what percentage will need ICU treatment anyway? The hospital system will still get overwhelmed. Did I see stats from France or Italy where 50% of ICU patients are under 50/60?
    I agree that older people should be isolated as much as is possible but so should the rest of the population- think of all the younger carers/staff working in nursing homes/hospitals etc. We know this virus is highly contagious so isolating one part of the population just won't work.
    Also by your own graph there the mortality for 50-59 is 1%, not 0.5%.

    The other problem here is we don't know what sort of longterm damage this virus is causing? Certainly some evidence that its leaving lasting damage, severe in some cases.


    The UK are being extremely reckless and we need to cut all transport between there and Ireland. An all Island solution would be the ideal situation here.


    Thanks for reply.
    Yes, the long term damage is very troubling - maybe the most troubling. The fibrosis and interstitial lung disease that will kill more slowly. That is just a horrible thought.
    While true ICUs might still be overwhelmed, would they not have slower over whleming if older and immuno compromised cohorts self isolated?

    BlackEdelweiss wrote: »
    While I dont agree fully with what you say, it is nice to see a well thought out point and not just rumour spreading and scare mongering

    I am in an at risk category, (2 type 1 diabetics in the house) so how do we isolate just us. Does this mean my whole family must go into isolation and remain indoors. I can imagine my kids looking out the window at the neighbourhood kids all out playing while they have to stay in lockdown. Who would do my wifes job, they would get someone with no high risk contacts in to fill the position and then she would be out of a job. My job could be similar but I am able to work from home for now. If the schools reopened then would my kids miss out and fall behind on their education?

    I personally believe that we have to fight this as a whole or else it will not be taken seriously enough.

    My personal theory is that if everyone takes a reasonable level of care to not pass on or contract the virus from the 4 people closest to them, i.e. in front, behind, to the left and to the right we should be able to stop the spread of this. Fight this battle on a micro level, in your own 2 meter circle. Let the WHO and governments do their thing but we are all the frontline here and it is up to us.


    Thanks for your reply.
    Yes, being in a vulnerable cohort must be very scary right now. I am over 50 so technically speaking in a slightly more at risk group, though not worried per se. Also my husband and I work in the same business which may close soon and there would be zero income then. So I understand your fret very well. Home schooling children is also an idea for the moment.

    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    In Italy 12% needing respirators were under 50

    Yes, thank for reply. That is frightening.

    My main point really is I cannot see how complete shutdown can be sustained and so there may have to be a different longer term approach


  • #5817
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Day 2 of not going outside. Weather is nice.


  • #5818
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,757 ✭✭✭threeball


    Herd immunity works great.... in a herd. We're nothing like a herd. We don't constantly interact. Or say I'm going to hang out with this other herd for a while. We live longer so have more health implications as a result. In a herd the weakest nearly always die either through sickness or being picked off and eaten. The Brits should be delighted they are part of the herd.


  • #5819
    Looptheloop30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Looptheloop30


    The Italian plane video is from last November but sure don't let the truth get in the way off a good story


  • #5820
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    blade1 wrote: »
    Nursing home just rang me.
    Complete lockdown from tomorrow on.
    I was the one family member allowed to see her so after tomorrow will I ever get to see her again? Who knows????

    What's probably worse is what will be going through her head?
    She's 87 and has Alzheimer's so anytime you explain something she can't grasp it.

    She was in great form yesterday when I called to her even though the rest of the family haven't been able to call over the last week or so and she keeps asking why they aren't calling even though they speak to her on the phone.

    I walked in yesterday and she put her two fists up to me.
    I says to her "do you reckon you'd take me?
    She goes " shur why wouldn't I" while laughing.

    There's fight in the old girl yet.
    I hope she gets through this!

    Same phone call just now.
    Been to see her every day for weeks and already she is forgetting my siblings and her grandkids.
    We have a folder of photographs I go through every day trying to remind her of the family. Every day she remembers less and less.
    I know her forgetting her family is not as important as keeping her and others safe medically but am in bits here.


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  • #5821
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Anyone have to pics handy of the garda cars bought from Enterprise or Eurocar?

    From the ES forum. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112834501&postcount=2104

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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