CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

2xj3hplqgsbkym · 15-03-2020 11:00AM

Ger Roe wrote: »

In the grand scheme of things at the moment, the children's rhyme sticks and stones comes to mind. There are bigger issues to argue then whether our entire nationality has been libeled on an internet forum.

Also ring a ring a Rosie ...

take everything · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

In a couple of weeks we'll be looking back thinking what the **** were we thinking leaving the pubs open.
Mark my words.

laurah591 · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

blade1 wrote: »

Nursing home just rang me.
Complete lockdown from tomorrow on.
I was the one family member allowed to see her so after tomorrow will I ever get to see her again? Who knows????

What's probably worse is what will be going through her head?
She's 87 and has Alzheimer's so anytime you explain something she can't grasp it.

She was in great form yesterday when I called to her even though the rest of the family haven't been able to call over the last week or so and she keeps asking why they aren't calling even though they speak to her on the phone.

I walked in yesterday and she put her two fists up to me.
I says to her "do you reckon you'd take me?
She goes " shur why wouldn't I" while laughing.

There's fight in the old girl yet.
I hope she gets through this!

Safer with the nursing home in lock down

BlackEdelweiss · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

Gynoid wrote: »

Not meaning to cause outrrage or argument or anything but just looking a bit objectively at the figures...it is the people over 50 who die in MUCH greater numbers. Over 50 = 0.5%, over 60 = 3 %, over 70 = 10% and growing after that to very high amounts.
This is the cohort very much in a higher risk category. That does not mean younger people won't be very sick, it might be so, I do not know.
There are also the immuno compromised who should be regarded as similar to the over 50's and older cohort.
Here we have closed schools, going for isolation of the vectors. This does not protect the most vulnerable groups - that depends on people themselves to be protecting the older demographic and the immuno-compromised. That is not dependable.
In the UK they are talking seriously now of isolating the group with the highest mortality rate. (In weeks, I don't know why...immediately would be the answer.)
If we restricted movement of the at risk groups and helped them out with food deliveries, shopping, meds etc, plus online connection via face time etc, then the virus would spread through the population that could weather it and it MIGHT build enough immunity so that at risk groups would not be meeting it every time they left their homes in a few months.
It would mean the economy could continue at least somewhat, and social welfare provision would be more affordable than a complete shutdown.

I don't know. Anyone else think this might work? Thought? I am happy to be contradicted, though it would not be pleasant to be called some sort of a monster (thanks).

While I dont agree fully with what you say, it is nice to see a well thought out point and not just rumour spreading and scare mongering

I am in an at risk category, (2 type 1 diabetics in the house) so how do we isolate just us. Does this mean my whole family must go into isolation and remain indoors. I can imagine my kids looking out the window at the neighbourhood kids all out playing while they have to stay in lockdown. Who would do my wifes job, they would get someone with no high risk contacts in to fill the position and then she would be out of a job. My job could be similar but I am able to work from home for now. If the schools reopened then would my kids miss out and fall behind on their education?

I personally believe that we have to fight this as a whole or else it will not be taken seriously enough.

My personal theory is that if everyone takes a reasonable level of care to not pass on or contract the virus from the 4 people closest to them, i.e. in front, behind, to the left and to the right we should be able to stop the spread of this. Fight this battle on a micro level, in your own 2 meter circle. Let the WHO and governments do their thing but we are all the frontline here and it is up to us.

wheresthebeef · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

blade1 wrote: »

Nursing home just rang me.
Complete lockdown from tomorrow on.
I was the one family member allowed to see her so after tomorrow will I ever get to see her again? Who knows????

What's probably worse is what will be going through her head?
She's 87 and has Alzheimer's so anytime you explain something she can't grasp it.

She was in great form yesterday when I called to her even though the rest of the family haven't been able to call over the last week or so and she keeps asking why they aren't calling even though they speak to her on the phone.

I walked in yesterday and she put her two fists up to me.
I says to her "do you reckon you'd take me?
She goes " shur why wouldn't I" while laughing.

There's fight in the old girl yet.
I hope she gets through this!

It's very tough on families and residents. The assumption we are working off is the less people an older person comes into contact with, the better.

Ironicname · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

blade1 wrote:

There's fight in the old girl yet. I hope she gets through this!

Heartbreaking. Wish you and yours the best.

caveat emptor · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

Lumen wrote: »

As you well know, I was responding to your ridiculous point that they were calling the "queen's subjects" a herd. This kind of important detail gets lost in such a busy thread.

Ah, now where's that ignore button...

And what is the queen doing during this. She has cancelled all engagements. Look at what someone is doing and not what they are saying during a crisis.

"Keep calm and carry on" -> "I am in my fvck going out of this palace to talk to people" :eek:

ngunners · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?fbclid=IwAR1UfyiLppXqltFemBxwEy0szHRzuJ5NQaDo5SoQyGyLwE7hq5XTOQM9YR0

Excellent article demonstrating how flattening the curve works under different measures.

coastwatch · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Be great if social media like FB etc. could be shut down for a fortnight or something. Radio and TV the only sources of verified information. I know it can't/won't be done, but honestly this type of stuff is frightening people.

We are preparing for a shut down in our house, but hoping for the best. What will be will be.

Agree with you there. I'm not on FB, but there was a long panic FB post doing the rounds and shared on here yesterday.
It originated from Ger "Redser" O'Grady, former Tipp Inter-County Hurler (2003-2006). A good hurler no doubt, but not sure if he's an expert on pandemics though.

Heres Johnny · 15-03-2020 11:01AM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Thought this was a lovely thing to do by the Italians

https://twitter.com/SisKathleen/status/1238395121663643648

That's absolutely brilliant. I cried watching that. I'll return to it time and time again over next while. Such a powerful song too, well chosen. Lovely gesture.

Cody montana · 15-03-2020 11:02AM

take everything wrote: »

In a couple of weeks we'll be looking back thinking what the **** were we thinking leaving the pubs open.
Mark my words.

I’d say they’ll all be closed soon.

ironingbored · 15-03-2020 11:02AM

kingshankly wrote: »

Think we need to get a sticky of all the pubs that closed on their own esteem and back them when all this blows over

https://twitter.com/clicky_here/status/1238975763644383233

15-03-2020 11:03AM

https://nucleuswealth.com/coronavirus-covid19-dashboard-charts-and-data-every-country/ireland

Ironicname · 15-03-2020 11:03AM

take everything wrote:

In a couple of weeks we'll be looking back thinking what the **** were we thinking leaving the pubs open. Mark my words.

Calm down Nostradamus. We are thinking that now.

Nibs05 · 15-03-2020 11:03AM

At Patrick’s day parade is going ahead in Manchester

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/st-patricks-day-manchester-2020-17860489

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 11:03AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Logged in here to find out what’s happening in Ireland but every post is about UK.

A lot of us have friends and family in the UK, be it up north, or over in Britian.

Scotty # · 15-03-2020 11:03AM

devnull wrote: »

Herd Immunity idea is that once you get it you won't get it again.....

They reckon if you've had it once, the symptoms will be less severe the second time.

But this strain is only a few months old. They won't know it all til there's been several 'rounds' (years).

ChikiChiki · 15-03-2020 11:03AM

Bob24 wrote: »

Interesting how different pubs react differently.

Grogan’s in Dublin announced on their Facebook page that they are closing: [url] https://www.facebook.com/groganscastlelounge/photos/a.1066004896785129/2916181428434124/?type=3[/url]

Some pubs are more socially responsible. When all this is over I will make sure to spend a couple of nights socialising in Grogans and Anseo and bring my friends.

Other pubs are just absolute gougers. No moral responsibility. Looking at The Auld Dubliner and The Temple Bar who have crowds in every weekend. They would be cashed up to weather this.

Snowbiee21 · 15-03-2020 11:04AM

A vaccine isn’t coming soon at all. Doctors have said it would take up to 18 months to get a vaccine

Nermal · 15-03-2020 11:04AM

devnull wrote: »

Herd Immunity idea is that once you get it you won't get it again.....
https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status/1239071257510854657
Oh well....

Certain to be false positives, or he hadn’t really recovered at all. Don’t base your decisions on statistical anomalies.

The ‘ground glass’ scare keeps getting posted. Here’s the paper. As one recovers from the virus, unless it’s was an extremely severe case, they disappear.

https://www.ejradiology.com/article/S0720-048X(20)30130-3/fulltext

boring accountant · 15-03-2020 11:04AM

kingshankly wrote: »

Think we need to get a sticky of all the pubs that closed on their own esteem and back them when all this blows over

Was thinking the same.

Special mention for Grogans who will be paying their full and part time staff throughout. Will be paying them many visits when this all blows over.

Gooey Looey · 15-03-2020 11:06AM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

If we just look at death rates here then the problem is if it spreads through younger population, what percentage will need ICU treatment anyway? The hospital system will still get overwhelmed. Did I see stats from France or Italy where 50% of ICU patients are under 50/60?
I agree that older people should be isolated as much as is possible but so should the rest of the population- think of all the younger carers/staff working in nursing homes/hospitals etc. We know this virus is highly contagious so isolating one part of the population just won't work.
Also by your own graph there the mortality for 50-59 is 1%, not 0.5%.

The other problem here is we don't know what sort of longterm damage this virus is causing? Certainly some evidence that its leaving lasting damage, severe in some cases.

The UK are being extremely reckless and we need to cut all transport between there and Ireland. An all Island solution would be the ideal situation here.

In Italy 12% needing respirators were under 50

BlackEdelweiss · 15-03-2020 11:06AM

Axfrderr wrote: »

A lot of us have friends and family in the UK, be it up north, or over in Britian.

We might be hours from the apocalypse but can we not resort to calling the north part of the uk please. We have got this far, no point falling apart at the last minute!

perrito caliente · 15-03-2020 11:07AM

NIMAN wrote: »

did you go round them all?

Went to a few, yes.

blade1 · 15-03-2020 11:07AM

Ironicname wrote: »

Heartbreaking. Wish you and yours the best.

Thanks Ironicname.
I suppose all we can do is talk to her on the phone each day.
But anytime someone phones her she seems to forget they phoned soon after.
Yesterday she was asking where her sister was and why she hasn't been around lately.
She's dead with 15 years.

voluntary · 15-03-2020 11:07AM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

In Italy 12% needing respirators were under 50

Was there a breakdown how many of them diabetic?

Loafing Oaf · 15-03-2020 11:07AM

Drumpot wrote: »

https://www.worldometers.info/
Population of swictzerland is less then double Ireland’s(8.5 mil), they don’t look in great shape in the deaths chart.

Particularly for one of the world's wealthiest countries with presumably one of the most advanced hospital systems. Next door to North Italy but colder is not a good place to be right now...

ErnestBorgnine · 15-03-2020 11:08AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Logged in here to find out what’s happening in Ireland but every post is about UK.

There's not a thread on the site that the obsessed won't make about Brexit & Trump and bore the bollocks off the rest of us.

Sittingpretty · 15-03-2020 11:08AM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Thought this was a lovely thing to do by the Italians

https://twitter.com/SisKathleen/status/1238395121663643648

Ok. If the singing in the streets didn’t do it, that has thoroughly broken me

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 11:08AM

Winter Puny Alternator wrote: »

Also ring a ring a Rosie ...

As the light declines.....

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP