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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Sir Patrick Vallance has come in for a lot of stick for his "Herd Immunity" theory, but maybe he's right? Specially in light of reading what he says below in bold.

    Millions of people will need to contract coronavirus in order to control the impact of the disease which is likely to return "year on year", the government's chief scientific adviser has told Sky News.

    Around 60% of the UK population will need to become infected with coronavirus in order for society to have "herd immunity" from future outbreaks, Sir Patrick Vallance said.

    Returning "Year on Year"

    Wow, maybe herd Immunity would be better than trying to avoid this blessed curse of a thing.

    Herd immunity is the ultimate goal for all populations because it will infect most people eventually. It’s how we get there is the issue, if we all get it at the same time, the health system will collapse and many more people will die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    Fair play to him if only we had someone to step up here and make a difference like he is.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1238997626550456320


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    theballz wrote: »
    Garda checking pubs across Dublin lastnight.

    The old orchard on templeogue road was ordered to shut as they surpassed 100 people (nearly x3 times.)

    They should be issuing fines too.

    If that is true, fair play (to the Gardai).

    People need to get real!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    theballz wrote: »
    Garda checking pubs across Dublin lastnight.

    The old orchard on templeogue road was ordered to shut as they surpassed 100 people (nearly x3 times.)

    They should be issuing fines too.

    They missed a few in Temple bar :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    theballz wrote: »
    Garda checking pubs across Dublin lastnight.

    The old orchard on templeogue road was ordered to shut as they surpassed 100 people (nearly x3 times.)

    They should be issuing fines too.

    I'd love to see faces of these pub goers if garda would enter in full protective lab gear and masks on their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    SeeMoreBut wrote: »
    I wonder when we will have our first case of it hitting an old folks home. Nothing ever 100% when humans are involved with the best will in the world. Could easily wipe out the vast majority of the occupants.

    It wouldn't surprise if has already hit a nursing home. Look at all the people that came back from holidays and were free to go about their business. Doctors working away as well. I reckon the infection rate is much higher in the general population. Nursing homes wouldn't be much different and can't keep it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Fair play to him if only we had someone to step up here and make a difference like he is.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1238997626550456320
    Eh, we have hospitals, planning underway for up to 10,000 beds and we don't have 21,000 cases like Italy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,804 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    They missed a few in Temple bar :confused:

    That wasnt in Temple Bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    If that is true, fair play (to the Gardai).

    People need to get real!

    I hope it's real and i hope they start issuing fines and once a lockdown comes into effect any pub found breaking it automatically loses their license


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It wouldn't surprise if has already hit a nursing home. Look at all the people that came back from holidays and were free to go about their business. Doctors working away as well. I reckon the infection rate is much higher in the general population. Nursing homes wouldn't be much different and can't keep it out.
    And it may be but if it is mild and doesn't spread that adds to overall immunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    VinLieger wrote: »
    I hope it's real and i hope they start issuing fines and once a lockdown comes into effect any pub found breaking it automatically loses their license
    Again that type of draconian approach is a sure fire way to bring in the lawyers. A couple of shutdowns should get that message across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Eh, we have hospitals, planning underway for up to 10,000 beds and we don't have 21,000 cases like Italy.

    He is in Portugal , and I just though it was a lovely gesture . Also covering Salaries of health workers he will make a huge difference if needed in his country. The world needs more people like him . Also 10,000 isn't gonna help unless you have enough ventilators for the people who need them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1




  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Will herd immunity still work, as it appears, you can be reinfected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Lougarden


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    He is in Portugal , and I just though it was a lovely gesture . Also covering Salaries of health workers he will make a huge difference if needed in his country. The world needs more people like him . Also 10,000 isn't gonna help unless you have enough ventilators for the people who need them.

    It's being reported by various sources as fake news


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    He is in Portugal , and I just though it was a lovely gesture . Also covering Salaries of health workers he will make a huge difference if needed in his country. The world needs more people like him . Also 10,000 isn't gonna help unless you have enough ventilators for the people who need them.

    Apparently the Ronaldo story is fake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    He is in Portugal , and I just though it was a lovely gesture . Also covering Salaries of health workers he will make a huge difference if needed in his country. The world needs more people like him . Also 10,000 isn't gonna help unless you have enough ventilators for the people who need them.
    We have it covered for now and the ventilator issue will be addressed. Whatever may be thrown at health authorities they do plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    Lougarden wrote: »
    It's being reported by various sources as fake news

    Link ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    It's racist now to condemn rotten food practices. What are you on about. Roasting live dogs. Boiling live rats. That's not racist that's being a realist.

    Well IMO talking about “the Chinese and there dirty practices” isn’t great.

    I know many Chinese people here and absolutely all of them are appalled by the type of market you are referring to. I’d say a large part of the population (>95%) is of that opinion.

    It’s a bit like saying all Romanians are thieves because it happens that a certain group in their population does indeed have a mafia across Europe organising illegal activities. There is an actual issue but “Romanians” as a whole can’t be blamed for it and a huge majority of them actually are strongly opposing the activities of that minority which turns crime into an international business.

    And of course China should do more to change these behaviours - but even for a strong government it is hard to instantly change habits which are ingrained in some cultural groups. I think this will happen though as the rest of the country has had enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    Is bringing the kids to the park an irresponsible thing to do?

    We are all going to crack up in the house


    Go for a walk in a secluded area. Its social distancing. Distance yourself from people. Parks I think gather large amount of kids everyone is bored so they end up in the park. I personally wouldn't go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    antodeco wrote: »
    Will herd immunity still work, as it appears, you can be reinfected?

    There was no real evidence of reinfection yet, could have been it was taking longer to clear the virus/false negative tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Fair play to him if only we had someone to step up here and make a difference like he is.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1238997626550456320

    Denis O'Brien will save us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Anyone managing this with a toddler...both sets of grandparents live 10 mins away (59/60 and 60/64... all 4 in reasonably good health). Last visits were Friday and obv toddlers are all fun and play so it's impossible to practice any social distancing. I'm thinking of going for the odd walk with my mam practicing social distancing (I've been prepping and trying to get them to prep for ages now so I'm def more apprehensive)...I could bring him in the buggy but if I have him out running around all he wants is up in their arms/tough and tumble..anyone having to experience of having to keep their toddler away? Tell me if I'm doing something wrong here! I think they think I'm being unnecessarily strict when they might be nearer neighbours kids etc than their own grandkid

    Keep your kid away from them, it’s for their own sake. You’re not being too “strict” at all, you’re doing the right thing.

    Also, tell them to stay away from neighbour’s kids too.

    “FaceTime” them if your kid wants to see them but don’t be going near them in person.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Austria about to fly past Japan this morning with +145 new cases so far today, 800 total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    antodeco wrote: »
    Will herd immunity still work, as it appears, you can be reinfected?
    It seems highly improbable. The reinfection "myth" is based on a few cases, one in Japan I believe, but they can't say for sure what happened there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    sadie1502 wrote: »
    Go for a walk in a secluded area. Its social distancing. Distance yourself from people. Parks I think gather large amount of kids everyone is bored so they end up in the park. I personally wouldn't go

    Going to the park is fine as long as you don’t come into contact with others. And it’s not that hard to avoid people.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Naked Lepper


    where can i view latest stats, new country cases. etc?


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