CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

manutd83 · 15-03-2020 07:52AM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

3 percent of tests are positive. A good precaution to send him home. But don't worry unnecessarily.

I had a bit of a temperature and headache last weekend ( most likely sinus related) and worked from home all last week due to it. Safety first is the key message

Wasnt really worried as he was out the door pretty sharpish,just made me think about the point of do you have to have all 3 symptoms to have it as was his arguement

Hamsterchops · 15-03-2020 07:53AM

Sir Patrick Vallance has come in for a lot of stick for his "Herd Immunity" theory, but maybe he's right? Specially in light of reading what he says below in bold.

Millions of people will need to contract coronavirus in order to control the impact of the disease which is likely to return "year on year", the government's chief scientific adviser has told Sky News.

Around 60% of the UK population will need to become infected with coronavirus in order for society to have "herd immunity" from future outbreaks, Sir Patrick Vallance said.

Returning "Year on Year"

Wow, maybe herd Immunity would be better than trying to avoid this blessed curse of a thing.

15-03-2020 07:54AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You believe that sh!te?

Myanmar has just announced this...

They go on to talk about how their citizens use mostly paper money instead of credit cards...

The world knows who the bull****ter countries are and they should pay a price for lying to the world.

I'd put Turkey at the top of the list for example.

Are you just randomly equating Vietnam and Myanmar because you can't tell the difference between what they look like?

Yes, I believe it. Everyone here does after the extreme reaction when it came back here. Your cynicism has zero credibility when it's automatic based on preconceived biases.

15-03-2020 07:56AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Sir Patrick Vallance has come in for a lot of stick for his "Herd Immunity" theory, but maybe he's right? Specially in light of reading what he says below in bold.

Millions of people will need to contract coronavirus in order to control the impact of the disease which is likely to return "year on year", the government's chief scientific adviser has told Sky News.

Around 60% of the UK population will need to become infected with coronavirus in order for society to have "herd immunity" from future outbreaks, Sir Patrick Vallance said.

Returning "Year on Year".

Wow, maybe herd Immunity would be better than trying to avoid this blessed curse of a thing.

Does herd immunity protect us from the common cold year on year? Why do we get the flu vaccination?

DOCARCH · 15-03-2020 07:57AM

Thespoofer wrote: »

Just a question I have.
I'm meant to be heading back to work on Wednesday ( Construction, working for an SME) and to be honest I'm not keen on the risks involved, especially working on some of the larger sites.
Do ye think a shutdown is on the cards by then?
Hard for anyone to know but thanks anyway.

I think any lock down might be in phases.

I would expect pubs to be closed next week, followed possibly by restaurants, followed possibly by (non essential) shops (non food/pharmacy ones).

Advice may be along the lines only to leave home to go to work, to go to shops (for food/pharmacy) or for medical reasons (to go to doctor/hospital).

I reckon they will see how this goes before going full/absolute lock down.

Hamsterchops · 15-03-2020 07:57AM

Ribs1234 wrote: »

Does herd immunity protect us from the common cold year on year? Why do we get the flu vaccination?

This is Covid-19, not the flu or a cold.

dummy_crusher · 15-03-2020 07:58AM

manutd83 wrote: »

In work yesterday one person with a cough,was getting funny looks but said he didnt have shortness of breath and a fever,was sent home anyway,made me wonder does everyone get all 3 of them or can it be different on each individual,you would imagine a fever would be there on nearly everyone that has it

There's a decent breakdown of symptoms on the Worldometers site on the Symptoms page, about half way down under the heading: Full list of symptoms from the Wang study.

15-03-2020 08:02AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

This is Covid-19, not the flu or a cold.

Yes but the principle is the same. Viruses mutate and this one will too. You can make up your own mind as no one 100% knows but these are important points to consider. Just asking you to revisit your thought process and see if your conclusion changes with this extra information.

Hamsterchops · 15-03-2020 08:04AM

Ribs1234 wrote: »

Yes but the principle is the same. Viruses mutate and this one will too. You can make up your own mind as no one 100% knows but these are important points to consider. Just asking you to revisit your thought process and see if your conclusion changes with this extra information.

I'm no expert, but I suspect Mr Vallance is.

To be a chief medical advisor to s PM of a country of some sixty five million people is not to be sniffed at.

voluntary · 15-03-2020 08:07AM

voluntary wrote: »

New cases in China increasing second day in a row. Double from yesterday. Reported 8 on Friday, 11 on Saturday and 20 already today.

25 cases in China now, remission would be a real b.tch.

Reckless Abandonment · 15-03-2020 08:08AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

This is Covid-19, not the flu or a cold.

It's a version of one. Just a strong one

JRant · 15-03-2020 08:09AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think any lock down might be in phases.

I would expect pubs to be closed next week, followed possibly by restaurants, followed possibly by (non essential) shops (non food/pharmacy ones).

Advice may be along the lines only to leave home to go to work, to go to shops (for food/pharmacy) or for medical reasons (to go to doctor/hospital).

I reckon they will see how this goes before going full/absolute lock down.

That would be the sensible approach and help to mitigate any widespread panic that a wholesale lockdown would cause.

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 08:09AM

Morning, another lovely day, great to be......oh wait..

Happy4all · 15-03-2020 08:11AM

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

Mr.Wemmick · 15-03-2020 08:12AM

Hope.

https://www.erasmusmagazine.nl/en/2020/03/14/unique-discovery-in-erasmus-mc-antibody-against-corona/?fbclid=IwAR1l5l3i0Lj9cXErM-o6e-dFcgpmZBCFGz8uwu4U_HyIO9lVs-wpEOZbiDg

Ellsbells1 · 15-03-2020 08:12AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

I think going for walks is ok and if you meet anyone you need to keep social distances between you. Fresh air is good.

DOCARCH · 15-03-2020 08:13AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

There is no isolation policy! Social distancing. Walking is fine!

seamusk84 · 15-03-2020 08:13AM

If retail workers start to fall ill, which to be fair will happen. Then what do we/The Government do?
Close up the shops?
How would that work from a practical point of view in terms of people getting supplies?

JRant · 15-03-2020 08:13AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Good morning out there.

Out here the wind is howling and hard rain on the windows. Turbulent ocean and ruffled air

Wondering if folk are realising the hay fever season is here? I am sneezing and coughing but no way it could be anything but hay fever.

Caught up with a few pages. here; but when I was looking at the news earlier it came across how many folk are actively seeking to help and support. , Doolin with the free meals ( I WISH! ) ,, various folk being available for isolated folk to contact.

Even between a rock and a hard place there is kindness and support.
So much energy here; diverting it is good.

And is all most of us can do. And stay safe and away from folk.

Maybe back later but unwell and tired. Wishing all here well and safe

PS heard from friends working in India. They are not counting cases there as it is so widespread and the police and others finding bodies just throw them in the river. Be thankful to be here. As I am. We have so much

Good morning G7, a voice of reason as per usual. Great call on the hayfever. Mine has kicked off this past week as well. I was starting to get paranoid about the sneeze and coughing until the eyes started acting up as well. Then I realized that it was that time of year again.

Keep safe.

secman · 15-03-2020 08:15AM

Ribs1234 wrote: »

Yes but the principle is the same. Viruses mutate and this one will too. You can make up your own mind as no one 100% knows but these are important points to consider. Just asking you to revisit your thought process and see if your conclusion changes with this extra information.

But because this is a novel virus which hopped across from animals the Immunologists do NOT know yet how this will go in the future, it being novel. Ive heard numerous interviews with experts and all were saying more or less the same. Flu is seasonal...winter and dies off as winter ends...this one is in winter...spring and summer as its gone global in all the hemispheres.

15-03-2020 08:15AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

What isolation policy?

DOCARCH · 15-03-2020 08:16AM

seamusk84 wrote: »

If retail workers start to fall ill, which to be fair will happen. Then what do we/The Government do?
Close up the shops?
How would that work from a practical point of view in terms of people getting supplies?

Well they have managed to keep shops going in the worst affected areas of China and Italy so while it is an issue, it does not appear to be a major concern.

Nobody has died of hunger yet from Covid-19 (AFAIK)!

Mullaghteelin · 15-03-2020 08:16AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Wondering if folk are realising the hay fever season is here? I am sneezing and coughing but no way it could be anything but hay fever.

It's a bit early for hay fever, unless you're allergic to daffodils. Windy cloudy cold wet weather isn't going to have a high pollen count, even in Summer.

JRant · 15-03-2020 08:16AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

Not at all. I got out early yesterday morning for a walk on the beach to clear the cobwebs. Definitely recommend it.

Hamsterchops · 15-03-2020 08:17AM

Herd Immunity by journalist Robert Peston.

The UK government recently enacted its second phase of response to the COVID-19 pandemic: “delay”. According to ITV journalist Robert Peston, the government’s strategy to minimise the impact of COVID-19 “is to allow the virus to pass through the entire population so that we acquire herd immunity, but at a much delayed speed so that those who suffer the most acute symptoms are able to receive the medical support they need, and such that the health service is not overwhelmed and crushed by the sheer number of cases it has to treat at any one time”. At face value, this seems like a sound strategy, but what exactly is herd immunity and can it be used to combat COVID-19?

Our bodies fight infectious diseases through the actions of our immune systems. When we recover, we often retain an immunological memory of the disease that enables us to fight off that same disease in the future. This is how vaccines work, creating this immune memory without requiring getting sick with the disease.

LINK;
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/coronavirus-can-herd-immunity-really-protect-us

voluntary · 15-03-2020 08:17AM

seamusk84 wrote: »

If retail workers start to fall ill, which to be fair will happen. Then what do we/The Government do?
Close up the shops?
How would that work from a practical point of view in terms of people getting supplies?

In a critical situation the army would be engaged in rationing the food.

Happy4all · 15-03-2020 08:18AM

voluntary wrote: »

In a critical situation the army would be engaged in rationing the food.

What if the army lads get it?

celt262 · 15-03-2020 08:20AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Would love to go for a walk now while most people are still in bed but am I right in believing that's a no no with isolation policy?

Go for your walk there wont be many around at this hour anyway.

billybonkers · 15-03-2020 08:20AM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

It's a version of one. Just a strong one

Don't feed the troll

voluntary · 15-03-2020 08:21AM

Happy4all wrote: »

What if the army lads get it?

If everyone gets ill and everyone dies then there's no one left in need of food and problem no longer exists.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP