CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

Whatever large scale experiment England wants to run, we shouldn't participate in it.

Hadleigh Putrid Stepfather wrote: »

Did it appear recently for a brief flash before it vanished?

No by recently I mean the last 5 years.

The right to housing proposed my some parties shows this.

Want everything for nothing.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Personal responsibility in Ireland has vanished recently.

Afterwards they will say that the government weren’t clear enough in their instructions. It won’t be their fault.

Touching me,,,,,,,,,, touching you


https://twitter.com/ACaomhanach/status/1238913023085023233

This thread is hard enough to keep up with without the whingefest about people having a drink in a pub
Got a problem with it complain to the VFI or the government instead of the self-flagellation on a thread about a virus

niallo27 wrote: »

While not condoning going to the pub, I don't see the same outrage over whole families packing the supermarket. Surly one parent could stay at home if possible.

I agree with the caveat that most supermarkets are a few hundred square metes, with people constantly on the move in that space, rarely standing beside anyone for more than 5 minutes. Pubs in contrast 30-50 square meters, tightly packed sitting beside same people for an hour or more perhaps moving to another group for a 30 minute conversation.

1 ideal environment for transmission the other relatively safe.
1 a necessity, the other a social indulgence at best but more likely a dangerous addiction.

Westernyelp wrote: »

An awful lot of 'holier than thou' horse**** being spouted on here.

Not really. It’s very simple.
We are meant to be practicing social distancing.
Going to a busy pub, particularly temple bar, is very much to that.

If you’re pub is following the guidelines. Then head out for a drink if you really need one.

Otherwise just stay the F at home, cans are class, buy some cans.

It won’t kill anyone to just spend a bit of time at home for a small time.

Dax Stale Roadwork wrote: »

Anyone going to the pubs on Paddy's Day or any other day during this crisis are f*cking morons.

There are frontline service people out in the communities bringing the fight to the virus 24/7.. I'm on standby from Monday and hoping, hoping hard that I'm called on to put my shoulder to the wheel.

I'm damned proud of every paramedic, nurse, doctor, hospital worker, blood bike rider, soldier, airman/woman, sailor, civil defence member etc who are putting the the citizens health and welfare before there's.. If you're dragging the kids to McDonalds, packing the pubs etc you're an affront to these people & like I said 'a f*cking moron.

Just quoting this so anyone who missed it in the thread can read it now .
Thank you all Dax Stale Roadwork .

I might have missed it, but I would love to see a system in place where if you are laid off your rent/mortgage is postponed until we get back to some kind of normality.

I'm probably talking through my hat, but a bit of a safety net like that might get everyone on board with a lock down. Business rates to be postponed too, together with supports to get them back on their feet.

I personally would have no problem with an emergency budget to help this kind of thing along. Supports like this take the heat and lots of worry off.

is_that_so wrote: »

Sigh, they are the only ones at present who can propose it but there is no way to get through the requisite stages, to make sure it passes muster legally. Let me give the non-dummy answer, the DoH can just add it to the list of things it advises to close. They are still appealing to people to respect the guidelines but are not at that point yet.

What are you on about??? Who is going to challenge it??? This is not some hairbrained stimulus that government are trying to introduce. It’ll be based on DoH advice and no one will challenge it and even if they did they will have zero support and no chance of even remotely getting it into court.

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

60m people
Roughly 40m is 60% of their population (the amount they estimate will get infected)
3.2 is about 7/8% of the infected.

Not to mention the 37m who may be left with permanent lung damage.

Where are you getting that from? The current figures state that around 80% will develop a mild or moderate case. Fever, chills, dehydration, shortness of breath.

The remainder may or will develop a serious or critical case. Serious or critical cases will or may develop pneumonia. If you are to recover from this state you may be left with permanent lung damage.

What you're saying is that 60% of the Italian population will may be left with permanent lung damage.

The study carried out by the Hong Kong Hospital Authority have also stated that cardiovascular exercise can and has improved survivors lung capacities. They've also stated that it is too soon to determine the long lasting effects.