CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Boggles · 14-03-2020 10:44AM

kevcos wrote: »

Perhaps to defeat this we need to grasp the nettle awful and all as the cost of that entails?

Would you give your life to grasp that nettle?

Indestructable · 14-03-2020 10:45AM

Jet2 going to the wall? Travel ban issued by UK government? Spain blocking the UK? Jesus these are scary times.

Drumpot · 14-03-2020 10:45AM

Really is quite remarkable how some people are taking this as an opportunity to do whatever they want. Also another confirmation, as if we needed it, of the destructive relationship our country has with alcohol. At the start of a Pandemic “they can take our schools/jobs, but they can’t take our drink”. Quite sad really as no doubt they’ve told themselves some story that makes this perfectly acceptable .... Like the assh*les that went to Cheltenham and the country next door choosing to cull the old/vulnerable (and healthcare system by extension).

mosii · 14-03-2020 10:45AM

That is a scary article.Id say we will be going on lockdown from Monday,and after reading that,i hope we will.There are still a lot of people out and about,and we are a small Island.This virus will spread rapidly ,if people are mixing.Take care.

whisky_galore · 14-03-2020 10:46AM

Boggles wrote: »

Would you give your life to grasp that nettle?

He's hoping someone will give his life for him....like Jesus.

iamwhoiam · 14-03-2020 10:46AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Kids are germ makers! Worse than the bats.

And if pubs stay open many of those will go home and infect the children .So the kids who were not already infected now are and not due to being in school but due to the eejits who gather in crowds in pubs .
If the schools close then logically then so must pubs and clubs and anywhere that crowds gather in close proximity

bmcc10 · 14-03-2020 10:46AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Mate of mine complaining on our WhatsApp group that him and the wife couldn't get into their favourite restaurant last night because it was packed, so they went to another and then on to the pub - both of which were busy.

Eejits the lot of them. It didn't even take 48 hours for many to get back to "normal"

As most countries are doing this idea that everyone is house bound outside Ireland is crazy.

amber2 · 14-03-2020 10:46AM

kevcos wrote: »

I'm confused how the lockdown in Ireland will work long term?
Is it not akin to hiding from a virus that will survive much longer than the country can stay in lockdown?

It seem to me that herd immunity is the only long term solution, whether achieved through vaccination or infection.

Perhaps to defeat this we need to grasp the nettle awful and all as the cost of that entails?

UK will be the guiney pigs I suppose. Will antibodies developed make you immune, do they know this, will Covid 19 mutate like it’s done once already. Too many questions and very little answers as yet, only it’s spreading very rapidly so where do you hedge your bets, because you are gambling with lives.

Hamsterchops · 14-03-2020 10:47AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Its to try slow things down and also prepare for the lockdown thats coming.

But if, as other posters are suggesting, people are packing out restaurants & pubs then the virus will be transmitted anyway!

By adults.

threeball · 14-03-2020 10:47AM

kevcos wrote: »

I'm confused how the lockdown in Ireland will work long term?
Is it not akin to hiding from a virus that will survive much longer than the country can stay in lockdown?

It seem to me that herd immunity is the only long term solution, whether achieved through vaccination or infection.

Perhaps to defeat this we need to grasp the nettle awful and all as the cost of that entails?

It's a delay tactic. They're probably banking on thousands being infected already.

There needs to be a plan put in place for future. A controlled infection where we quarantine and deliberately infect the people with least susceptibility. Create immunity in a controlled manner.

kevcos · 14-03-2020 10:47AM

Boggles wrote: »

Would you give your life to grasp that nettle?

Ridiculous question.

Nijmegen · 14-03-2020 10:47AM

Indestructable wrote: »

Jet2 going to the wall? Travel ban issued by UK government? Spain blocking the UK? Jesus these are scary times.

Jet2 will have a lot of package holidaymakers. Best to bring them home and stem losses rather than land them. Wouldn’t be surprised if flights from Spain generally shut down tho.

amacca · 14-03-2020 10:48AM

kevcos wrote: »

I'm confused how the lockdown in Ireland will work long term?
Is it not akin to hiding from a virus that will survive much longer than the country can stay in lockdown?

It seem to me that herd immunity is the only long term solution, whether achieved through vaccination or infection.

Perhaps to defeat this we need to grasp the nettle awful and all as the cost of that entails?

Fair enough, you first.

Thank you and remember that if you or a loved one end up needing a ventilator that isn't available the irish economy/its people salute your sacrifice.

tbayers · 14-03-2020 10:48AM

gozunda wrote: »

Here are the figures for numbers infected by date and totals*

29 Feb 1 (Total 1)

3 March 1 (Total 2)

4 March 4 (Total 6)

5 March 7 (Total 13)

6 March 5 (Total 18 )

7 March 1 (Total 19)

8 March 2 (Total 21)

9 March 3 (Total 24)

10 March 10 (Total 34)

11 March 9 (Total 43) 1 death

12 March 27 (Total 70)

13 March 20 (Total 90)

In 2 weeks Ireland has gone from 1 to 90 people diagnosed with COVID-19

Figures for the scale of community type infection is unknown at this time.

Source:

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/

On track to double every 3 days it seems?

amadangomor · 14-03-2020 10:48AM

Drumpot wrote: »

Really is quite remarkable how some people are taking this as an opportunity to do whatever they want. Also another confirmation, as if we needed it, of the destructive relationship our country has with alcohol. At the start of a Pandemic “they can take our schools/jobs, but they can’t take our drink”. Quite sad really as no doubt they’ve told themselves some story that makes this perfectly acceptable .... Like the assh*les that went to Cheltenham and the country next door choosing to cull the old/vulnerable (and healthcare system by extension).

Thick cnuts being thick cnuts. Would be no problem if just they suffered but they will spread it to innocent people who are taking precautions, selfish bollixes

pjohnson · 14-03-2020 10:48AM

is_that_so wrote: »

No, I just deal in facts not internet bravado.

No you worship Tony even when he contradicts other more sensible preventative measures (nursing home closures, saying schools wont close etc)

s7ryf3925pivug · 14-03-2020 10:49AM

The Donald Trump Coronavirus timeline

Says there is nothing to worry about and it will go away
Says it is a hoax by the Democrats
Is photographed standing beside someone diagnosed a few days later
Declares a national emergency

whiskeyman · 14-03-2020 10:49AM

Local Aldi like Christmas.
Car park full.
Pasta and rice gone.
Plenty of milk, bread and meat... For now.

Boggles · 14-03-2020 10:50AM

kevcos wrote: »

Ridiculous question.

It's the most pertinent question you could be asked when you are suggesting a treatment for this should be effectively a mass cull.

So I take it no you wouldn't give your life but you would expect others to.

On behalf of "others" go do one.

kevcos · 14-03-2020 10:51AM

amacca wrote: »

Fair enough, you first.

Thank you and remember that if you or a loved one end up needing a ventilator that isn't available the irish economy/its people salute your sacrifice.

Oh put a sock in it.
I'm asking how/if this can be defeated by hiding from it.
And I live in the UK so I wont be hogging your ventilator!

Jucifer · 14-03-2020 10:51AM

hurikane wrote: »

Have myself and the car destroyed. Have a kettle basin and load of liquid soap. It was grand the first time but driving around with the kettle and basin, fcuk me i don’t know how others are managing. Car is destroyed.

I know people were giving me looks when I rinsed my hands with a gallon drum of water on the luas.

Nijmegen · 14-03-2020 10:51AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

But if, as other posters are suggesting, people are packing out restaurants & pubs then the virus will be transmitted anyway!

By adults.

This occurred in Italy. That’s why they shut restaurants and bars the day we announced our lockdown. Even Belgium is closing their pubs. People are thick and irresponsible and need to be forced to go home.

Boggles · 14-03-2020 10:51AM

Hadleigh Putrid Stepfather wrote: »

The Donald Trump Coronavirus timeline
Says there is nothing to worry about and it will go away

Says it is a hoax by the Democrats

Is photographed standing beside someone diagnosed a few days later

Declares a national emergency

Shakes hands with the entire "team" who are dealing with it, entire team spits into the same microphone for an hour.

Absolute dotard.

Longing · 14-03-2020 10:51AM

Great Info from this Dr. Applies to all. Shocking to hear that number you hear of infected is actually multiplied by 10 even 20.

Tordelback · 14-03-2020 10:52AM

I love that the 'we can't do anything about it and we shouldn't even try because it's inconvenient and expensive' attitude has jumped the topic-barrier from Climate Change.

I trust we'll hear no more about how Irish men love their mammies, because when push came to shove they couldn't give a toss.

_Kaiser_ · 14-03-2020 10:52AM

What are those who live away from family, or single fathers doing?

College students will presumably go home, but what about those who say work in Dublin and rent during the week, or those with kids who don't live with them.

My little lad is old enough to be worried about daddy and his mam is freaking out about the situation a bit as her own parents are self-isolating in the countryside (60+ with medical conditions).
We luckily still get on well so she's asking if I want to relocate there for at least a few weeks.

I can work from home so no issue in that regard, but from a practical point of view I'd be worried about leaving my own place unoccupied for several weeks or longer so thinking I'd have to at least come back once a week to check on things - assuming things don't really get bad and a complete lock down and travel restrictions were imposed.

Any suggestions?

Funsterdelux · 14-03-2020 10:52AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

But if, as other posters are suggesting, people are packing out restaurants & pubs then the virus will be transmitted anyway!

By adults.

I know its wreckless by those who do, they might be the cause of a lockdown coming sooner as the gov ses that people cant be trusted to behave.

I have to go out now to get gas and coal to keep us warm and cook food for the next month.

El Weirdo · 14-03-2020 10:52AM

tbayers wrote: »

On track to double every 3 days it seems?

I read somewhere that we need to keep it at around 6 days for the health service to be able to cope.

Neamhshuntasach · 14-03-2020 10:53AM

threeball wrote: »

I don't get this. People worrying about 100 euro flights rather than catching or spreading a deadly disease. Same people would drop it out of their pocket pulling up change for a pint and not bat an eyelid. People need to get a grip. Get off the flights, shut the airports, do business through Skype and FaceTime. Unless you are travelling home then stay put.

It's not 100 flights for everyone. For example, I have 4 flights for 457 euro each, then paid the baggage on top, paid for rental car, paid for parking here at airport, bought new cases, new clothes for kids, paid for insurance, bought extra annual leave in work as had another trip later in the year, paid accommodation balance in full just before all this. Was renting a villa. 3k plus of which I can only now get back 25%. And possibly some other extras.

I won't be going and will take loss on the chin unless something changes in the next no that allows my insurance policy to recover costs. I can take the monetary loss no problem but unfortunately there could be a lot of people in similar situations where they had to save a long time and will be now down significantly relative to them.

is_that_so · 14-03-2020 10:53AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

And if pubs stay open many of those will go home and infect the children .So the kids who were not already infected now are and not due to being in school but due to the eejits who gather in crowds in pubs .
If the schools close then logically then so must pubs and clubs and anywhere that crowds gather in close proximity

Kids are fine, it's the adults you need to be concerned about. I get people's need to see a level of normalcy. For a lot of people this whole thing is stressful to overwhelming. For now they stay open and I can understand the unwillingness to cause more economic problems to the hospitality sector, problems that would directly affect people who also have families.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP