Beep scheme - anyone joining

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 01:11PM

In as well, money for jam

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 01:12PM

The11Duff wrote: »

What happens if you have a set of twins???

Its per calf but it looks like the dung sample money is per cow, so €90 for one and €80 for the other

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 01:16PM

893bet wrote: »

Vaccinate or feed meal.

How will a farmer be required to prove? Is it as simple as a self declaration (backed up by remedy records and feed receipts)?

Thats what the T&Cs say, record of feeding meal and proof of purchase
For the vaccinations ur vet does a plan for weaning for your farm but they name

- Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale
- At the same time, a Single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale)

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 01:20PM

Just click on it and the Terms & Conditions pop up.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/beep/

annubis · 12-03-2020 01:25PM

do you have to do fecal check on all cows if you do that option, looks like, that would probably be expensive ?

tanko · 12-03-2020 01:32PM

annubis wrote: »

do you have to do fecal check on all cows if you do that option, looks like, that would probably be expensive ?

You put your cows in a clean yard for a couple of hours, let them out, then collect ten separate samples in bags and post them to a lab.

An Post are going to love this scheme. It'll be farmers revenge for the price of posting BVD samples:D.

Dozer1 · 12-03-2020 01:37PM

I assume it's through www.mybeep.ie again for the scales, I'm in as the say on the vodafone add, money for good practice as far as I see it.

if this is the future of schemes buying a scales might become a necessity

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 01:37PM

So for farmers who said last year the scheme was only a load of sh1te, might be right this year.

Biscuitus · 12-03-2020 04:47PM

Buying a scales was one of the best things we've done when it comes to parasite management. We were able to dose and use pour-ons to the ml needed. We had been under-dosing for years. On the downside we ended up spending a lot more on medicine this Winter but the animals look better

Parishlad · 12-03-2020 05:45PM

Just signed up. Only small numbers here as ye know but this is definitely worthwhile to me. The info from weighing is useful/interesting. Going with the vaccination and sampling options too.

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 06:13PM

Parishlad wrote: »

Just signed up. Only small numbers here as ye know but this is definitely worthwhile to me. The info from weighing is useful/interesting. Going with the vaccination and sampling options too.

Where exactly do you sign up? Is it the DAFF home page when you sign in.

tanko · 12-03-2020 06:17PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Where exactly do you sign up? Is it the DAFF home page when you sign in.

It's on Agfood.ie. Click on Beep-S on left of screen.

Lime Tree Farm · 12-03-2020 06:30PM

login in to www.agfood.ie

Beef Environmental Efficiency Programme - Suckler (BEEP-S)

Hard Knocks · 12-03-2020 07:31PM

tanko wrote: »

You put your cows in a clean yard for a couple of hours, let them out, then collect ten separate samples in bags and post them to a lab.

An Post are going to love this scheme. It'll be farmers revenge for the price of posting BVD samples:D.

Has a list of labs been posted yet?
Would this help the regional labs like Sligo?

Lime Tree Farm · 12-03-2020 08:23PM

Annex 4 - a pack of 10 samples containers will be supplied.

In the past (2018), we had a single cow tested for fluke and rumen fluke, plus fluke and rumen fluke oocyst count, both tests cost €12.50 each. She tested positive for rumen fluke.

sonnybill · 12-03-2020 09:53PM

Great scheme !

Anto_Meath · 13-03-2020 09:57AM

Am I reading this right,
€40 /€50 per suckler cow & Calf.
€30 per calf for the welfare - meal / vaccination
€10 Finially for the dung sample.
Giving you the total of €80 /€90 per cow.

Parishlad · 13-03-2020 10:14AM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Am I reading this right,
€40 /€50 per suckler cow & Calf.
€30 per calf for the welfare - meal / vaccination
€10 Finially for the dung sample.
Giving you the total of €80 /€90 per cow.

That's correct!

annubis · 13-03-2020 10:42AM

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Annex 4 - a pack of 10 samples containers will be supplied.

In the past (2018), we had a single cow tested for fluke and rumen fluke, plus fluke and rumen fluke oocyst count, both tests cost €12.50 each. She tested positive for rumen fluke.

thats my point, would lads be as well (financially) to leave off that last option and take the 80 euros?

Sugarbowl · 13-03-2020 10:44AM

How much does dung sampling cost? I did 1 weanling through the vets before, cost me 20 euro

tanko · 13-03-2020 10:49AM

Sugarbowl wrote: »

How much does dung sampling cost? I did 1 weanling through the vets before, cost me 20 euro

Good question, once the options are picked they can't be changed later.

Green&Red · 13-03-2020 03:35PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Has a list of labs been posted yet?
Would this help the regional labs like Sligo?

Not yet, I got an email back saying they are wokring on it and it'll be released shortly

I'd imagine sligo will be on it but also someone like Parsons in Charlestown

bogman_bass · 13-03-2020 03:49PM

Do you have to sample each cow or can you bulk test?

tanko · 13-03-2020 03:52PM

tanko wrote: »

You put your cows in a clean yard for a couple of hours, let them out, then collect ten separate samples in bags and post them to a lab.

An Post are going to love this scheme. It'll be farmers revenge for the price of posting BVD samples:D.

You do this.
I suppose you could take samples in the crush also.

Green&Red · 13-03-2020 04:06PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

Do you have to sample each cow or can you bulk test?

Using gloves, collect faecal samples from at least 10 different fresh faecal deposits and place
them in 10 separate containers (You must collect at least a heaped teaspoonful of faeces).

bogman_bass · 13-03-2020 04:38PM

Green&Red wrote: »

Using gloves, collect faecal samples from at least 10 different fresh faecal deposits and place
them in 10 separate containers (You must collect at least a heaped teaspoonful of faeces).

So of more benifit fanancially to bigger herds

Parishlad · 13-03-2020 04:58PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

So of more benifit fanancially to bigger herds

You could be right, but, for me personally it's the encouragement I need to actually go and do sampling, which, in due course could save me money that I would have otherwise wasted on doses not required. Plus the added benefit of hopefully targeting correctly the issues that I should be focusing on and not basing my dosing regime on guesswork....which really is what I do currently. Hopefully improve overall herd health as a result....even if it's a small herd.

bogman_bass · 13-03-2020 06:00PM

Oh don’t get me wrong i’m All for dung testing and fighting resistance. Just thinking out loud as regard tsk up

tellmeabit · 14-03-2020 11:38AM

Parishlad wrote: »

You could be right, but, for me personally it's the encouragement I need to actually go and do sampling, which, in due course could save me money that I would have otherwise wasted on doses not required. Plus the added benefit of hopefully targeting correctly the issues that I should be focusing on and not basing my dosing regime on guesswork....which really is what I do currently. Hopefully improve overall herd health as a result....even if it's a small herd.

Snap

patsy_mccabe · 14-03-2020 11:42AM

Parishlad wrote: »

You could be right, but, for me personally it's the encouragement I need to actually go and do sampling, which, in due course could save me money that I would have otherwise wasted on doses not required. Plus the added benefit of hopefully targeting correctly the issues that I should be focusing on and not basing my dosing regime on guesswork....which really is what I do currently. Hopefully improve overall herd health as a result....even if it's a small herd.

It could highlight a lot of hidden Rumen Fluke issues too.

Beep scheme - anyone joining

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