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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    KevRossi wrote: »
    So nothing to stop someone taking a train from north Italy to London and flying to US from there ?
    Yes, there is.

    Pay no attention to what the thick orange racist says. There is no ban on flights from Schengenland. There is an entry ban affecting people (other than US citizens and permanent residents) who have been in Schengenland in the 14 days before arriving in the US. It doesn't matter where their flight to the US has taken off from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I'm well aware about the ban on China the point is about europe as you well know my dear boy.
    When it became apparent what was developing in China Trump should have banned travellers who had spent time in a Schengen country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Galego


    Jesus, the paranoia is strong

    Which paranoia?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jesus, the paranoia is strong

    Paranoia? Because it’s all going so well so far?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Galego


    Paranoia? Because it’s all going so well so far?

    Yes yes..... I thought you were one of those in denial "this is only a cold".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I'd argue he's the only one showing any kind of leadership on the biggest issue our species has faced since WW2. He should have done it weeks ago though when it became apparent what was developing in China.

    Huh? He's ignored the whole thing entirely until now and then makes a baffling decision like this. That's not leadership, it's a toddler reacting after being criticised for doing nothing.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Galego wrote: »
    Yes yes..... I thought you were one of those in denial "this is only a cold".

    What? I’ve been ****ting myself (figuratively) since day one.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,914 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    This thread title is completely incorrect

    Can it be charged by a mod please?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    This thread title is completely incorrect

    Can it be charged by a mod please?

    Hopefully their policy is corrected to match the thread title first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Interesting that the only two countries in European where Trump has properties are the UK and Ireland. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with them being excluded from this ban...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    No changes. Living where and as I do, already well equipped for whatever comes. I always have at least 2 months supply of basics in. We get periods when getting over to the mainland is impossible, like today with a gale blowing orange, so a grocery order would not arrive.

    I have extra supplies in; I bought a few tins/packets at a time since all this started. Not enough to hinder supplies to others, but enough that , being housebound now, I will not need to ask extra deliveries when folk are busy.

    Just makes sense. And common sense will be needed in the times ahead.

    And everyone's situation is different so let us not judge any but our own. Do whatever you need to do to cope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Interesting that the only two countries in European where Trump has properties are the UK and Ireland. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with them being excluded from this ban...

    I'd imagine the US multinationals here also have something to do with it.

    I'd imagine there's a lot of people from across Europe trying to get here now to fly onwards to America


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Stable door. Horse. Gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    What he’s actually done is ban entry to foreign nationals who have been in the Schengen zone in the previous 14 days. Doesn’t apply to people with US residency and citizens - mostly because he doesn’t have the power to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Well well well, the US is trying to deal with the virus and folks here are using it [and this thread] to attack Leo!

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Real leadership.

    ha !

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Well, I have cut back on watching 'its the end of the world and we blew it'
    More serious, I am going to Lidl on Mondays when its a bit quiet and using hand cleaner gel after using the trolly.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    I've stopped biting my nails. It's something that I've wanted to do and this presented a perfect opportunity, so been applying the nail polish that tastes like cat urine daily.

    Apart from that the usual precautions such as hand washing, sneezing into my elbow, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,985 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Virtually fcuk all change, people need to calm down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I came to Cheltenham for four days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    Apart from the EU trade ban mistake, seems a good speech.

    My fellow Americans: Tonight, I want to speak with you about our nation’s unprecedented response to the coronavirus outbreak that started in China and is now spreading throughout the world.

    Today, the World Health Organization officially announced that this is a global pandemic.

    We have been in frequent contact with our allies, and we are marshalling the full power of the federal government and the private sector to protect the American people.

    This is the most aggressive and comprehensive effort to confront a foreign virus in modern history.

    I am confident that by counting and continuing to take these tough measures, we will significantly reduce the threat to our citizens, and we will ultimately and expeditiously defeat this virus.

    From the beginning of time, nations and people have faced unforeseen challenges, including large-scale and very dangerous health threats.

    This is the way it always was and always will be. It only matters how you respond, and we are responding with great speed and professionalism.

    Our team is the best anywhere in the world.

    At the very start of the outbreak, we instituted sweeping travel restrictions on China and put in place the first federally mandated quarantine in over 50 years.

    We declared a public health emergency and issued the highest level of travel warning on other countries as the virus spread its horrible infection.

    And taking early intense action, we have seen dramatically fewer cases of the virus in the United States than are now present in Europe.

    The European Union failed to take the same precautions and restrict travel from China and other hotspots.

    As a result, a large number of new clusters in the United States were seeded by travelers from Europe.

    After consulting with our top government health professionals, I have decided to take several strong but necessary actions to protect the health and wellbeing of all Americans.

    To keep new cases from entering our shores, we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.

    The new rules will go into effect Friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground.

    There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings, and these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval.

    Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing.

    These restrictions will also not apply to the United Kingdom.

    At the same time, we are monitoring the situation in China and in South Korea.

    And, as their situation improves, we will reevaluate the restrictions and warnings that are currently in place for a possible early opening.

    Earlier this week, I met with the leaders of health insurance industry who have agreed to waive all copayments for coronavirus treatments, extend insurance coverage to these treatments, and to prevent surprise medical billing.

    We are cutting massive amounts of red tape to make antiviral therapies available in record time.

    These treatments will significantly reduce the impact and reach of the virus.

    Additionally, last week, I signed into law an $8.3 billion funding bill to help CDC and other government agencies fight the virus and support vaccines, treatments, and distribution of medical supplies.

    Testing and testing capabilities are expanding rapidly, day by day. We are moving very quickly.

    The vast majority of Americans: The risk is very, very low. Young and healthy people can expect to recover fully and quickly if they should get the virus.

    The highest risk is for elderly population with underlying health conditions.

    The elderly population must be very, very careful. In particular, we are strongly advising that nursing homes for the elderly suspend all medically unnecessary visits.

    In general, older Americans should also avoid nonessential travel in crowded areas.

    My administration is coordinating directly with communities with the largest outbreaks, and we have issued guidance on school closures, social distancing, and reducing large gatherings.

    Smart action today will prevent the spread of the virus tomorrow.

    Every community faces different risks and it is critical for you to follow the guidelines of your local officials who are working closely with our federal health experts -- and they are the best.

    For all Americans, it is essential that everyone take extra precautions and practice good hygiene.

    Each of us has a role to play in defeating this virus.

    Wash your hands, clean often-used surfaces, cover your face and mouth if you sneeze or cough, and most of all, if you are sick or not feeling well, stay home.

    To ensure that working Americans impacted by the virus can stay home without fear of financial hardship, I will soon be taking emergency action, which is unprecedented, to provide financial relief.

    This will be targeted for workers who are ill, quarantined, or caring for others due to coronavirus.

    I will be asking Congress to take legislative action to extend this relief.

    Because of the economic policies that we have put into place over the last three years, we have the greatest economy anywhere in the world, by far.

    Our banks and financial institutions are fully capitalized and incredibly strong. Our unemployment is at a historic low.

    This vast economic prosperity gives us flexibility, reserves, and resources to handle any threat that comes our way.

    This is not a financial crisis, this is just a temporary moment of time that we will overcome together as a nation and as a world.

    However, to provide extra support for American workers, families, and businesses, tonight I am announcing the following additional actions: I am instructing the Small Business Administration to exercise available authority to provide capital and liquidity to firms affected by the coronavirus.

    Effective immediately, the SBA will begin providing economic loans in affected states and territories.

    These low-interest loans will help small businesses overcome temporary economic disruptions caused by the virus.

    To this end, I am asking Congress to increase funding for this program by an additional $50 billion.

    Using emergency authority, I will be instructing the Treasury Department to defer tax payments, without interest or penalties, for certain individuals and businesses negatively impacted.

    This action will provide more than $200 billion of additional liquidity to the economy.

    Finally, I am calling on Congress to provide Americans with immediate payroll tax relief.

    Hopefully they will consider this very strongly.

    We are at a critical time in the fight against the virus. We made a life-saving move with early action on China.

    Now we must take the same action with Europe. We will not delay.

    I will never hesitate to take any necessary steps to protect the lives, health, and safety of the American people.

    I will always put the wellbeing of America first.

    If we are vigilant -- and we can reduce the chance of infection, which we will -- we will significantly impede the transmission of the virus.

    The virus will not have a chance against us. No nation is more prepared or more resilient than the United States.

    We have the best economy, the most advanced healthcare, and the most talented doctors, scientists, and researchers anywhere in the world. We are all in this together.

    We must put politics aside, stop the partisanship, and unify together as one nation and one family.

    As history has proven time and time again, Americans always rise to the challenge and overcome adversity.

    Our future remains brighter than anyone can imagine.

    Acting with compassion and love, we will heal the sick, care for those in need, help our fellow citizens, and emerge from this challenge stronger and more unified than ever before.

    God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    I don't like Trump but what's so terrible about this decision?


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    Why toilet roll? Diarrhoea isn’t a symptom of this virus,it’s respiratory!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Virtually fcuk all change, people need to calm down

    I see a clown of a woman driving her car yesterday with a mask, I thought a mask was only if you had the virus and if she have it she shouldn’t be going out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    I don't like Trump but what's so terrible about this decision?
    It won't achieve very much, it distracts attention and resources from the decisions he needs to take (like properly funding and expediting a Covid testing programme, which would make a difference) and it indicates that, as ever, he is more concerned with manipulating public opinion for personal political advantage rather than actually addressing an important issue in any effective way.

    The whole point of this address has been to underline the "foreignness" of Covid-19 so that, when Americans start to be affected in large numbers, he has positioned himself to blame the foreigners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,985 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Dakota Dan wrote:
    I see a clown of a woman driving her car yesterday with a mask, I thought a mask was only if you had the virus and if she have it she shouldn’t be going out.


    Ah I wouldn't be going around abusing people for their actions, it is a pandemic after all, and us humans have a tendency to panic from time to time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,447 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    zorro2566 wrote: »
    Why toilet roll? Diarrhoea isn’t a symptom of this virus,it’s respiratory!

    Our local Tesco was out of baked beans last night. Perhaps the two are connected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,447 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Ah I wouldn't be going around abusing people for their actions, it is a pandemic after all, and us humans have a tendency to panic from time to time

    Pandemic simply means it’s happening in lots of places. Like stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Field east


    One wonders the importance , or otherwise, of Ireland in the mind of the Donald. Not very to my mind when he specifically referred to the UK only as being exempt from the ban. The way it came out was a kind of an afterthought. You would think that ireland would be currently very much on his mind because of St Pats day, the fact that he was scheduled to meet Leo , the fact that he has investment properties in IRELAND and the fact that there are a significant number of high profile US company’s based here.
    He forgot to mention that the ban did not include flights in relation to goods importation.

    The media are reporting ‘gaps’ in Joe Biden’s personality that Trump is sure to exploit eg getting things wrong, being absent minded . Well, Trump has handed Biden’s team a wealth of ‘gaps’ in Trumps behavior on a silver platter in relation to the above - and in the context of he being president of the US and in dealing with an extremely serious matter


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    I have what seems to be a head cold / cough and someone else in the house has a really bad cough and basically I'm not going out at all and working from home.

    They're unlikely to be anything to do with COVID19 but, even so.

    I'm also not reading or posting on the main COVID19 thread anymore as I'm just finding it's a load of nasty, aggressive twitter-style scare mongering. The odd bit of good information in the mix too, but it's just turned into a really unpleasant thread.

    Delving into that thread's just making me feel really, really stressed and overwhelmed. At this stage, I've just decided, come what may, I'll just have to deal with it. There's no point in freaking out over something you aren't going to have much control over anyway.

    Take the usual precautions and that's pretty much all you can do.


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