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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    I clearly said banks at the top there is a handful of banks who everybody knows their names and they have been growing for this last century especially,every depression and recession they get larger at the expense of the smaller banks who holds the common mans money,who always carries the can when they fail.

    Aib,Boi were borrowing of these big boys,and then the big boys called in their debts and we the common taxpayer had to take the hit not the boys Aib borrowed off which is who should have carried the can considering they were independent banks nothing to do with the state or tax payer at that time.

    Rothschilds and their buddies consolidating their power.

    You will never get a legitimate debate on anything here. Especially when they consider Wikipedia a credible source of information!. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    If he isn't a doctor, why is he offering medical treatment?

    Is a pharmacist a doctor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Rothschilds and their buddies consolidating their power.

    You will never get a legitimate debate on anything here. Especially when they consider Wikipedia a credible source of information!. ;)

    Someone peddling Rothschild conspiracies questioning the credibility of other people's sources. Irony poisoning may be a bigger threat than COVID.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Is a pharmacist a doctor?

    No they're not. but they are more qualified to give medical advice than somebody who promotes industrial bleach enemas for autistic children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    No they're not. but they are more qualified to give medical advice than somebody who promotes industrial bleach enemas for autistic children.

    How much did big pharma pay you to say that? How dare you question these brave people who work for non profit organizations?
    I suggest a coffee enema, followed by a Gwyneth Paltrow egg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ipso wrote: »
    How much did big pharma pay you to say that? How dare you question these brave people who work for non profit organizations?
    I suggest a coffee enema, followed by a Gwyneth Paltrow egg.

    I imagine a coffee enema would be quite the eye opener


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Ipso wrote: »
    Someone peddling Rothschild conspiracies questioning the credibility of other people's sources. Irony poisoning may be a bigger threat than COVID.

    Rothschild family established the banking system we have today. It not a conspiracy they are founders of a system that favours the 1 percenters of society I think when you have a secret society like the Bilderberg Group where rich and powerful people from around the world meet up behind closed doors to discuss things and nothing published about what they discuss every citizen has a right to know what the agenda is? We have the UN and G8 conferences to discuss world affairs.

    Even though Alex Jones a loon. He did excellent work in 90s and filmed hundreds of rich men watching a strange play in a forest, with a burning wooden owl in the background, and men dressed up in KKK robes. What the **** was going on there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Rothschild family established the banking system we have today. It not a conspiracy they are founders of a system that favours the 1 percenters of society I think when you have a secret society like the Bilderberg Group where rich and powerful people from around the world meet up behind closed doors to discuss things and nothing published about what they discuss every citizen has a right to know what the agenda is? We have the UN and G8 conferences to discuss world affairs.

    Even though Alex Jones a loon. He did excellent work in 90s and filmed hundreds of rich men watching a strange play in a forest, with a burning wooden owl in the background, and men dressed up in KKK robes. What the **** was going on there?

    15 years ago the very notion of the existence of the Bilderberg Group was considered a conspiracy theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    15 years ago the very notion of the existence of the Bilderberg Group was considered a conspiracy theory.

    LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    LOL.

    Yes its true perhaps you're too young to remember


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    No they're not. but they are more qualified to give medical advice than somebody who promotes industrial bleach enemas for autistic children.


    Where on his site does he promote bleach enemas and call himself a Doctor?.

    Your lies have been exposed numerous times now!.

    http://www.clivedecarle.com/


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So now it seems that rather than putting forward any coherent conspiracy theory, people are just throwing out half remembered factoids and using those as a basis for how they've cracked the global decades long conspiracy.

    I don't think anyone has a conspiracy theory that holds any water and no one has any sort of special or accurate insight into the Coronavirus...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Where on his site does he promote bleach enemas and call himself a Doctor?.

    Your lies have been exposed numerous times now!.

    http://www.clivedecarle.com/

    If his promoting it. Is there a video? I never heard of him till his name was mentioned here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Its easier to get a load of children to simultaneously focus on putting their shoes than it is to get conspiracy nuts to stick to one point at a time. Your brains must be like the inside of a snow globe.

    Baseless crazy claim - Dodge question - A load of general waffle - Next baseless crazy claim

    Its great to read


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    If his promoting it. Is there a video? I never heard of him till his name was mentioned here.

    Well you love long YT videos so here you go. knock yourself out.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Well you love long YT videos so here you go. knock yourself out.


    I'm looking for a video where he sells bleach MMS to solve autism in children. Is this what people in here are fighting over?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Where on his site does he promote bleach enemas and call himself a Doctor?.

    Your lies have been exposed numerous times now!.

    http://www.clivedecarle.com/
    Clive de Carle is a specialist in the field of health mastery and has helped thousands of people to restore their health through talks, retreats, broadcasts, videos and consultancy.

    Recognised as one of the world's leading health researchers, Clive has spent thirty years studying the most effective natural health solutions available. Clive is the host of the pioneering Health Revolution internet TV show which features over 300 of Clive's interviews with international health experts.

    As a consultant, Clive specialises in identifying the root cause of illness. Clive defines health mastery as understanding and facilitating the conditions that your body and mind need to self repair, by eliminating blockages such as physical and emotional toxins and providing the correct micro and macro nutritional elements to restore health, harmony and wellness.

    Clive is also the founder of Ancient Purity, a leading curator of high-grade nutritional supplements, and the director of the Secret Health Club, an pioneering on-line members' educational resource.

    Gosh, it certainly looks like he's promoting himself as some kind of expert or authority in the matters of health.
    He's not saying he's a doctor, because that would lead to legal issues like not having qualifications and having oversight.

    And lol at this:
    http://www.clivedecarle.com/products.html
    BE READY IN THE CASE OF EVERY HEALTH SCENARIO
    ​​GET THE CLIVE DE CARLE HEALTH PACK AND ENSURE YOU ARE PROTECTED AGAINST CORONA AND OTHER VIRUSES WHILST STRENGTHENING YOUR ALL-ROUND HEALTH.

    Only 300 euro!
    No wonder he can't make a living selling this stuff.

    But I guess all of that's ok.
    It doesn't matter if he's selling fake cures. It's no one's business but his.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I'm looking for a video where he sells bleach MMS to solve autism in children. Is this what people in here are fighting over?

    blimey you watched that video really quickly. did you watch it on fast forward?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    blimey you watched that video really quickly. did you watch it on fast forward?

    Has a title MSM Organic Sulphur (Results / Uses) Patrick McGean of Sulphur Study Read some of the Youtube comments nobody discussed this was an autism cure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Here's a corona virus conspiracy




    Let's keep it somewhat on topic.

    Makes a change from ohnonotgmail saying Clive said he's a Doctor when he clearly never did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Here's a corona virus conspiracy




    Let's keep it somewhat on topic.

    Makes a change from ohnonotgmail saying Clive said he's a Doctor when he clearly never did.

    No, youre right he isn't a doctor and i shouldn't have said that. You said he had a qualification in opthalmic optics which in this country is a post qualification specialty for medical doctors. I should have known better than to trust anything you posted as i cannot find any mention of such a qualification for him anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Gosh, it certainly looks like he's promoting himself as some kind of expert or authority in the matters of health.
    He's not saying he's a doctor, because that would lead to legal issues like not having qualifications and having oversight.

    And lol at this:
    http://www.clivedecarle.com/products.html


    Only 300 euro!
    No wonder he can't make a living selling this stuff.

    But I guess all of that's ok.
    It doesn't matter if he's selling fake cures. It's no one's business but his.

    This is misleading false advertising have to agree with you here.
    ​​GET THE CLIVE DE CARLE HEALTH PACK AND ENSURE YOU ARE PROTECTED AGAINST CORONA

    Why does he just say Corona ( missing virus)? Is this for legal reasons?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,003 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    It's up to people to be actual adults about their actions in relation to said advice. You can take it or leave it.

    He is promoting diluted bleach which has serious side effects. Consumers may not know this. I am surprised he has not been served multiple lawsuits yet.

    An evangelist in the US who sells another nonsense product - "colloidal silver" - if now being sued by the FDA and the US State Attorney and has been already sent cease and desist letters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Has a title MSM Organic Sulphur (Results / Uses) Patrick McGean of Sulphur Study Read some of the Youtube comments nobody discussed this was an autism cure.

    perhaps you might try and make some sort of effort yourself. It isn't that hard to find



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    King Mob wrote: »
    Gosh, it certainly looks like he's promoting himself as some kind of expert or authority in the matters of health.
    He's not saying he's a doctor, because that would lead to legal issues like not having qualifications and having oversight.

    And lol at this:
    http://www.clivedecarle.com/products.html


    Only 300 euro!
    No wonder he can't make a living selling this stuff.

    But I guess all of that's ok.
    It doesn't matter if he's selling fake cures. It's no one's business but his.


    €300 is hardly a lot of money, (easy to know who's scrapping by on this;)!) A few prescription tablets from the pharmacy cost way way more than that.

    What he's selling if stuff you can get in health shops anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    €300 is hardly a lot of money, (easy to know who's scrapping by on this;)!) A few prescription tablets from the pharmacy cost way way more than that.

    What he's selling if stuff you can get in health shops anyway.
    So you see no issue at all with anything he's doing?
    And that if all his cures are fake, that's also completely ok with you?
    Just to confirm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    perhaps you might try and make some sort of effort yourself. It isn't that hard to find


    I don't need to see anymore information. His a swindler profiting on fake cures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    So did Corona beer pay for this publicity,no such thing as bad publicity right or does being associated with a virus damage their brand.

    Seems like if they cared they would sue whoever branded the virus the same as their beer,they have been around a while.If McDonalds can sue Supermacs for stealing Mac Burgers names,surely if Corona cared they wouldn't allow the name to be stolen in the name of a virus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    King Mob wrote: »
    So you see no issue at all with anything he's doing?
    And that if all his cures are fake, that's also completely ok with you?
    Just to confirm.

    Im neither for nor against him even if I was what would it matter?. What does my opinion or yours on him matter?. You know what they say on opinions too.

    but 90% of what he speaks of is on the benefits of vitamins and minerals and I have benefited from vitamins and magnesium.
    His health pack is vitamins and minerals easily obtained in any health shop.
    hes not selling moon rocks as cures to dementia and their is no cure claims on his site.
    Dont know what you are on about "cures" etc.


    The autism stuff is not relevant to me as I am not dealing with it.

    It highlights a point I have made over and over. You folk simply cannot do discretion or have the humility to even listen to someone you disagree with. Its all oh hes anti vaxx hes insane hes tin foil hat hes pretending to cure everything ever all this waffle.
    Its stubborn echo chamber immature crap.
    I can listen to anyone on anything. Doesnt mean I agree with them on everything thats beyond absurd; yet you believe that.
    Its so so illogical.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, we've been asking repeatedly for people to present a coherent conspiracy theory about coronavirus.
    Speaking of snake oil - according to a journalist at the HSE press briefing earlier, CBD manufacturers have tried to sell their products as a preventative. I haven't seen any evidence of this in Ireland though, so I'd imagine that was just wholesale smearing of the industry as it's currently an easy (poorly regulated) target.


    This Cork doctor on Prime Time is saying that we are not going about our contact tracing aggressively enough. He also describes how asymptomatic infected people can also spread the virus and strongly recommends following the actions of China, even at this early stage, if we are to contain Covid-19.

    Earlier in the show, Corinne Sadlier, Head of Acute Medicine and Infectious Diseases in CUH (where there is widespread community transmission) said that we are not detecting spread in the community because our trading parameters are not adequate. Of course we won't detect for community transmission if we only test those coming from affected areas and those who are immediate close contacts. Thing about that. It's a complete oxymoron which can only lead to circular outcomes of no detected cases of community transmission.

    I'm blue in the face from saying that the only two detected cases of community transmission were in Cork hospitals where patients presented as acute and they HAD to test them for coronavirus because their symptoms matched and they were in critical states. These people would NOT be recommended for testing under current HSE policy.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237447726331281408
    Fergal Bowers highlights that HSE is insisting that hospitals and nursing homes lift visiting restrictions because they 'acted unilaterally'.

    It's not outside the realms of possibility that they're allowing people to visit the elderly as a way of getting them infected so they don't have to pay their pensions. An unprecedented decrease in population, with poorer subsections of society likely to be especially hard-hit, will, in the long-term, be likely to solve a lot of the socioeconomic problems they failed so hard at when they were in government. Now they're an essentially unelected autocratic government driving decisions which will have life or death ramifications on an electorate who recently showed them they really didn't want them in power.

    It's fncked.

    Any takers?
    Those Goldman-Sucks lads didn't seem to fair too badly from the 2008 global recession. More state bail-outs, than a shed full of hay needing bails to be bailed out.

    As we move quickly and globally to a cashless world, even a move e.g. from 0.01% to 0.02% surcharge on each tap, is a whole-lotta-money into the bank.
    Not to mention the pharmaceutical companies and the absolute mountain of money that will be coming to them. Although when governments have exceeded their borrowing limits, I'm not sure who will pay them. They might inherit the earth yet though.


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