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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Oh wait Ryanair aren't stopping flights until Friday hmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    We're not testing for community transmission here unless they end up in hospital and are picked up there. There are more infections out there than the confirmed number.

    It still ain't going to be anywhere near 50-60%.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    BloodBath wrote: »
    We're not all jammed on a cruise ship full of infected staff and passengers though are we.

    We're in a sparsely populated, low density island with a tiny number of cases and we're taking early action to contain it.

    But hey let's use some hypothetical "worst case guesstimate scenario" BS numbers.

    Nobody is saying that it will happen but what will actually come to pass will be somewhere between the best case scenario and the worst so no harm discussing all possibilities so we are prepared.

    It's just being realistic, pragmatic and smart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,719 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    s982102 wrote: »
    China didnt make the mess! It was the bloody virus that made the mess. It fact, China did everything it could to stop spreading. It could have started in any country.

    Their market practices were bio hazardous. Live animals, dead animals, cooking dead animals, at markets. Farm animals, animals we consider pets, wildlife animals, rodents, all together. It definitely contributed to this mess. SARS 1 came from China. And now this is another form.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Ipso wrote: »
    139 cases after 28 days, and Microsoft was invented by Bill Gates so it must be true

    Don't trust that number have you updated you're antivirus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,854 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    MCKG wrote: »
    Its south Galway.

    What town though, Kinvara, Gort, Athenry, Craughwell, Loughrea etc? Why can't they just say the places, why are they not been called out on this in their live broadcasts?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    1641 wrote: »
    I posted earlier today about modelling that was done in 2006. The results woud seem broadly consistent with these figures, given a current population of about 5 million and the apparent fatality rate of the coronavirus. What we need to hope for is that it is not as infectious as the assumption used in the 2006 model and maybe a lower fatality rate :

    Does the % for death take into account age profile and those with under lying issues.
    That is is worse case scenario, just wondering if all stats are entered


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    BloodBath wrote: »
    We're not all jammed on a cruise ship full of infected staff and passengers though are we.

    We're in a sparsely populated, low density island with a tiny number of cases and we're taking early action to contain it.

    But hey let's use some hypothetical "worst case guesstimate scenario" BS numbers.

    We have had 9 years of governments who have puiled the wool over ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Ireland - 27th February Zero cases here in the ROI.

    On the 1st of March 2020 the1st case of Covid-19 was recorded here in Ireland (ROI) by the HSE.

    Trajectory from 1st of March . . . .

    1, 6, 13, 19, 21, 24, 34, (. .), (. .), (. .) . . .

    34 cases recorded as of today, Tuesday 10th March.

    I can see the future

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    BloodBath wrote: »
    We're not all jammed on a cruise ship full of infected staff and passengers though are we.

    We're in a sparsely populated, low density island with a tiny number of cases and we're taking early action to contain it.

    But hey let's use some hypothetical "worst case guesstimate scenario" BS numbers.

    Early action?? are you taking the piss? All public gatherings should have been stopped last week and all schools, colleges and universities should be closed. By the time we decide to close schools, colleges and universities it will be too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭paul71


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It still ain't going to be anywhere near 50-60%.

    What is your basis for thinking that? Is there an immunity to an entirely new virus among the population that only you know of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Wuhan and other Chinese cities have been on lockdown since 23rd January. That's a couple of days short of 7 weeks. It's had the desired effect.

    I wonder will China now ban travel to/from the rest of the world. How else will they avoid a fresh outbreak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    We're not all jammed on a cruise ship full of infected staff and passengers though are we.

    We're in a sparsely populated, low density island with a tiny number of cases and we're taking early action to contain it.

    But hey let's use some hypothetical "worst case guesstimate scenario" BS numbers.

    The cruise ships weren't full of infected either, they set off with just 1 infected and soon had hundreds.
    Being jammed into a concert hall, church or any kind of public transport with one infected would have much the same effect.

    The estimate is from Hong Kong's public health epidemiologist Prof Gabriel Leung and 60% is his lower range estimate, 80% was the higher end.
    His message isn't that we're doomed, it's to outline what will happen if we don't take necessary containment measures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It still ain't going to be anywhere near 50-60%.
    Did that time-travelling machine experiment work in the end?

    The uk are actually hoping for 50% penetration rate, as an optimistic outcome. The range is wide 20-80%, and it's still too early to call from their experts.

    You must be more of an expert in all this, than all the other experts put together, fair play!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Based on what? Total horse****. Where the hell are they pulling 50-60% of the population infected out of?

    That is completely unprecedented anywhere even in the worst localised areas of infection.

    So he said he doesn't know but he's throwing numbers out there anyway that people then quote as fact. It's BS.



    He's a moron then taking speculative "worst case scenario" numbers and ramping up the fear and panic. Bad leadership.



    Because they have no basis in reality.

    They have basis in mathematical modelling, which is callibrated with current observations.

    The window of uncertainty is constantly narrowing as we move through this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    She is on because she has a compromised immune system and she can talk about self-isolation.
    she started offering herself as contract tracer... thats going beyond her personal knowledge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Nobody iis saying that it will happen but what will actually come to pass will be somewhere between the best case scenario and the worst so no harm discussing all possibilities so we are prepared.

    It's just being realistic, pragmatic and smart.

    Except you aren't taking a best case scenario. You are taking a worst case scenario that has no basis in reality and would require 0 action from the population and government.

    There is nothing realistic about those numbers, nothing pragmatic about it and nothing smart about spreading fear to the uninformed by using them.

    It's outright dangerous and stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Spleerbun


    What's the best estimate for the date all flights in and out of the country are shut down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Mellor wrote: »
    Not sure of the relevance tbh.


    I'll draw a word picture.


    Rubs head releasing multiple skin cells then coughs releasing hundreds of droplets some fall onto airborne cells and are carried along by a draft for several metres landing on someones nose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The Taoiseach said mathematical modelling to predict the trend of the virus will have to be continually updated to take account of fast-changing data. But he said what was learnt so far from other countries and other experience suggested that “up to 50pc or 60pc” of the country’s population could get coronavirus... “There will be a significant proportion who will require critical care. And a percentage that we don’t know, we honestly don’t know yet – it could be less than 1pc, it could be as much as 3pc – or 3.4pc – mortality. We don’t know yet,” the Taoiseach warned.
    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/up-to-85000-irish-people-could-die-from-coronavirus-in-worst-case-scenario-taoiseach-indicates-as-three-more-diagnosed-39029363.html

    Quite a bit different to those saying he said that that many people WILL die isn't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,322 ✭✭✭obi604


    Is the 9 o clock Rte news not on tonight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    America is gonna be Italy, Iran, Wuhan and S Korea all rolled into one

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237478530411364353


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    BloodBath wrote: »
    There won't be 1% of that never mind 300%.

    less than 300 deaths? theres optimism, and then theres ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    We have had 9 years of Governments that have pillaged the health system.

    If you are only becoming aware of this now, well you well and truly are a grade A f ucking idiot.

    You are. Don't dispute it.

    Always look at a society and measure it how it treats its less well off.

    Well done. You know if you are in that cohort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    HSE said 21 cases on Friday, no?
    With three extra cases now.
    3 were announced over the weekend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    And why is this worse than SARS 1? Is there a vaccine for SARS?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    This Cheltenham thing could really throw petrol on the fire. What an absolute negligent decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    We're not testing for community transmission here unless they end up in hospital and are picked up there. There are more infections out there than the confirmed number.
    If they have upped the testing numbers to the extent they claim, we'll be starting to have a good idea of the actual spread of the infection by Friday. Personally I'm not leaving the house until then at the very least. I value the health of my family and myself over the economic plans of any government. Those of us lucky enough to escape unscathed from this period in history will look back at this and be awestruck at the lack of compassion shown to the Irish population. Many populations across Europe are already finding out just how expendable they are.
    Silverfish wrote: »
    Doing these numbers in the euromillions, if I win I'm sitting this out in the Beacon hospital with my own ventilator.
    Hate to break it to ya but the HSE have already said that they would be taking over private hospitals as needed. Not even the super-rich have an exit to escape.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




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