Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-03-2020 08:05PM

Stheno wrote: »

If we say cases double every 3.5 days that's quadrupling every week
So 34 now
March 17 136
March 24 544
March 31 2176
April 7 8704
April 14 34816
April 21 139264
April 28 557,056
That would be 100k people by end April that would need hospital care potentially

These above figures, are entirely possible, even somewhat likely.
Note: On an Island basis it's currently at 50.
Italy are doubling even faster.

One European Medical Leader on the BBCNews Channel earlier today, gave a dire view of the situation, and also a prediction for the uk (Ire will be similar in nature), that is maybe best not to repeat for any sensitive ears.

joe40 · 10-03-2020 08:05PM

Boggles wrote: »

Da Fuq?

She can't visit him if he is dead, no one can visit anyone if she brings the virus in with her and kills everyone in the ward.

With good hygiene and no symptoms she should be able to visit her father. This virus could be with us for months/years. I don't why we have the idea that everything will be fine in a few weeks.
This might be something we have to manage long term.

froog · 10-03-2020 08:05PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The US have a made a b*lls of this thing too.

let's be honest here, every country will effectively make a balls of this thing, because no country is capable of containing it, and no country has the health system capacity to treat it. health systems are simply not designed for these things.

the outlier being china of course, but every day now i'm doubting their figures more and more.

Ipso · 10-03-2020 08:05PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Heard a manager of a nursing home on Joe Duffy describe how the residents of a nursing home clapped when they were told about the restrictions. They are scared and don't have much of a voice in society unfortunately. Especially on here.

Where it matters.

SwordofLight · 10-03-2020 08:05PM

I'm a bit appalled by the handling of this and the attitudes of people in the country.

Testing people getting off flights from italy or elsewhere is a waste of time because symptoms may not show for 5 days or even at all, as in one of the Wuhan cases where her family got severe pneumonia and she had nothing.

A doctor speaking from a hospital in Italy says they are having to choose who gets to live and who dies because they are completely overwhelmed and that even young people are intubated on life support, and to please "stop saying it is like a bad flu."

Why are people going around with an attitude that it is 'inevitable' they will get it, and it is just a bad cold if i do etc?? What about passing it on? What about others?

Why are some people not even bothering with the hand sanitisers coming in and out of offices and universities?

Why on earth are people being forced into meetings and 'business as usual' when this virus can clearly be passed on through breath, sneezing, coughing, laughing, basically being around others.

The virus is killing people, it might not have been expressed fully here yet, but give it another week with these attitudes and we will all be in trouble. Accuse me of scaremongering, blah blah

Lord Trollington · 10-03-2020 08:06PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Average of 198 tests per day based on 7 day week.

Last week average just under 44 per day.

The HSE dont so 7 day weeks

Not Now John · 10-03-2020 08:06PM

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

But that’s a pretty selfish attitude because that may be true for her, maybe even for her father. But what about the rest of the people at that home? Do they have to risk it so she doesn’t get her heart broken?

I'd hardly think it's selfish to be heartbroken if her father is ill and she can't be with him. Harsh cuckoo.

Miike · 10-03-2020 08:06PM

Darc19 wrote: »

That's more than have been done in the entire eastern seaboard of the United States.

And the turnaround time for the test is under 12 hours. NOT 3 days as fools on Fakebook will tell you.

If we were doing 4.7 million tests per day, people will still complain on here

Thanks for the insightful discussion some of you provided but I think this draws a close to my posting in this thread for a bit. The tone of the thread has taken a nosedive in the last 24 hours in my opinion and I can't take any more of the Facebookemiology :pac:

Stay safe and wash your paws

ShamoBuc · 10-03-2020 08:07PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Oh dear. Here it comes again. Time to let the thread settle down for a few hours.

Few hours we'll gave a new thread

ZX7R · 10-03-2020 08:07PM

10 new cases in the republic of Ireland,
All cases are contacts from know infected or traveled from an infected region.
Rte news

Martina1991 · 10-03-2020 08:07PM

spookwoman wrote:

Know reports from very reliable people on twitter not FB who said they know someone waiting 3+ days for result. I'd believe them before someone just saying ah facebook...

So facebook isn't reliable but twitter is?!

MastiffMrs · 10-03-2020 08:07PM

Confirmed case in Navan, group of 7 people from the area went skiing in Lyon and the confirmed case was feeling very unwell on his return and was tested straight away. At least 2 other self isolating but don't know if they had tests. Confirmed by the company they work for.

They flew home Sunday 8th March

ACitizenErased · 10-03-2020 08:08PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

I'm not one of the "it's only the flu" camp, but just out of interest, does anyone know how many people have been diagnosed with the flu since the start of the year? Is there even a figure for this out there?

In Week 9 2020, 96 people were hospitalized for influenza. 3,683 people were hospitalized up to week 9 in the flu season so far.
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/influenza/seasonalinfluenza/surveillance/influenzasurveillancereports/20192020season/Influenza_Surveillance_Report_Week%2009_%202020.pdf

otnomart · 10-03-2020 08:08PM

Macron speaking now and he has already said the word "economy" a couple of times (too many, IMHO)
From him, nearly 1800 cases it's the start of the epidemy.
Not a Chinese approach, then.

s7ryf3925pivug · 10-03-2020 08:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

Da Fuq?

She can't visit him if he is dead, no one can visit anyone if she brings the virus in with her and kills everyone in the ward.

I would take it that his quality of life is dreadful. At some point death doesn't seem like a bad option. No visitors on the other hand make life even worse.

Martina1991 · 10-03-2020 08:09PM

Lord Trollington wrote:

The HSE dont so 7 day weeks

The NVRL do.

ACitizenErased · 10-03-2020 08:09PM

otnomart wrote: »

Macron speaking now and he has already said the word "economy" a couple of times (too many, IMHO)
From him, nearly 1800 cases it's the start of the epidemy.
Not a Chinese approach, then.

From history, the French don't usually handle crises very well.

thebaz · 10-03-2020 08:09PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

I'm not one of the "it's only the flu" camp, but just out of interest, does anyone know how many people have been diagnosed with the flu since the start of the year? Is there even a figure for this out there?

Didnt get it myself but it was meant to be a pretty horrible flu this year -

Heres a link from Irish Times - December 19

Dec 27, 2019 - Up to 100 people are expected to die before the end of this winter flu season. ..

otnomart · 10-03-2020 08:09PM

European Council has decided that flight slots are kept - if/when flights are stopped

CinemaGuy45 · 10-03-2020 08:09PM

SwordofLight wrote: »

I'm a bit appalled by the handling of this and the attitudes of people in the country.

Testing people getting off flights from italy or elsewhere is a waste of time because symptoms may not show for 5 days or even at all, as in one of the Wuhan cases where her family got severe pneumonia and she had nothing.

A doctor speaking from a hospital in Italy says they are having to choose who gets to live and who dies because they are completely overwhelmed and that even young people are intubated on life support, and to please "stop saying it is like a bad flu."

Why are people going around with an attitude that it is 'inevitable' they will get it, and it is just a bad cold if i do etc?? What about passing it on? What about others?

Why are some people not even bothering with the hand sanitisers coming in and out of offices and universities?

Why on earth are people being forced into meetings and 'business as usual' when this virus can clearly be passed on through breath, sneezing, coughing, laughing, basically being around others.

The virus is killing people, it might not have been expressed fully here yet, but give it another week with these attitudes and we will all be in trouble. Accuse me of scaremongering, blah blah

Israel and I will admit I am not their biggest fan have a two week quarantine for anybody entering the country.

That is how you do it.

spookwoman · 10-03-2020 08:10PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

So facebook isn't reliable but twitter is?!

so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

bodhrandude · 10-03-2020 08:10PM

MCKG wrote: »

Yes all in one small town.

What town is it?

Lord Trollington · 10-03-2020 08:11PM

froog wrote: »

let's be honest here, every country will effectively make a balls of this thing, because no country is capable of containing it, and no country has the health system capacity to treat it. health systems are simply not designed for these things.

the outlier being china of course, but every day now i'm doubting their figures more and more.

I dont agree entirely. It is a balancing act to not cripple the whole country financially for months if not years introducing measures that are knee jerk for that moment in time .

Are we better off biting the bullet now worldwide and introduce draconian measures for 1/2 months or do we wait and sit on our hands in the hope that a treatment can be formulated in the coming weeks or months .

Unearthly · 10-03-2020 08:11PM

otnomart wrote: »

European Council has decided that flight slots are kept - if/when flights are stopped

Common sense prevails. Ridiculous having mostly empty planes flying for the sake of keeping slots

IrishStuff09 · 10-03-2020 08:12PM

theguzman wrote: »

Do we have a county by county breakdown on figures? I heard of a case in Ballyvourney Co. Cork yesterday! Even the Chinese who were criticized gave us a breakdown by prefecture of cases. With 50 cases on the island, we should be getting the information of where the infected are, was it local transmission or imported from abroad etc. Italy has higher death figures per day than China now, Ireland will be Italy within 2 weeks.

Best we've got, officially.

dublin99 · 10-03-2020 08:12PM

froog wrote: »

if every single person in a country wore masks at all times wouldn't this have a dramatic impact on new cases. not protecting people - but massively reducing infected spreading??

That's exactly what happened in Macau and Taiwan.

Macau had 10 cases and everything was closed for a few weeks. Masks are mandatory on public transport and in casinos. They are provided at cost by the Government. No new case for 35 days!

Taiwan took similar steps promptly and also stopped visitors from China. The number of cases to date, since late January, is about 45.

First hand report by Kathryn Whitfield of the Guardian:
"Taipei seems to have the virus in hand. Now I worry about returning to the UK "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china

ArchXStanton · 10-03-2020 08:13PM

otnomart wrote: »

Macron speaking now and he has already said the word "economy" a couple of times (too many, IMHO)
From him, nearly 1800 cases it's the start of the epidemy.
Not a Chinese approach, then.

What did you expect from banker puppet boy...

spookwoman · 10-03-2020 08:13PM

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237455860395323392?s=20

Achasanai · 10-03-2020 08:13PM

spookwoman wrote: »

so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

But Twitter is no more reliable than Facebook.

Social media is just people like yourself or myself talking. We might be telling the truth but we might as often not. Twitter is probably worse for bullshít as there's more 'anonymous' accounts knocking around.

expectationlost · 10-03-2020 08:14PM

MCKG wrote: »

I am from this town in south Galway. We have had 4 confirmed cases since Sunday. 3 of those cases (we think) seem to be included in today figures, the other 1 in yesterday’s. Lots of people being tested of the past few days.

The GP is right, schools need to close in this area and all events cancelled.

where did those people get it from?

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP