Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

B.A._Baracus · 10-03-2020 12:13PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There was panic buying in the supermarket I visited this morning. Trollies of water, toilet paper, and noodles.

Some people must think they’re preparing for snow and a drought.

Whoa. What supermarket was it?

fits · 10-03-2020 12:13PM

Just heard a rumour that a large workplace not too far from here had a case and everyone sent home. Phoned my sister who works there. No truth in it at all. :pac:

tobefrank321 · 10-03-2020 12:14PM

British Airways have cancelled all flights to and from Italy.

Ryanair still flying to and from all parts of Italy. With no isolation of people coming off the planes.

BobMc · 10-03-2020 12:14PM

Trying to keep up with this thread is tough going, pages added while reading,

My query is at what point to we just throw our hands up in the air and say screw it, just carry on as normal
and hope for the best, its bound to get worse before it gets better so when do we just all fire away and take
what may or may not come,

close schools for 3 weeks fine, send them back in and a case appears now what close for months? till september,
a case in a factory close indefinately? just curious as to when we just have no choice but to belt on
and cross fingers

Unearthly · 10-03-2020 12:14PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Same, but we basically closed shop 2 weeks ago and told everyone to work from home if they wanted. Mandatory WFH expected from Monday.

My multinational is still sleeping at the wheel. No laptops handed out yet except senior management and other high grade jobs that had them already

BloodBath · 10-03-2020 12:15PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Is that even possible???

Haven't heard any talk of the virus entering the water system.

It wouldn't last long in Irish water with the amount of crap that's already in it. Not gonna happen anyway.

Utter Consternation · 10-03-2020 12:15PM

flynnlives wrote: »

Mortgages suspended in italy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-economy-mortgage-payments-symptoms-lockdown-latest-a9389486.html

If this happens here im not paying my rent. Why should i?

#priorities

Funsterdelux · 10-03-2020 12:15PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Is that even possible???

Haven't heard any talk of the virus entering the water system.

You never know!

Ah i was taking the pee,

gabeeg · 10-03-2020 12:15PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Is that even possible???

Haven't heard any talk of the virus entering the water system.

It's worse than that I'm afraid. Not only do they enter the water supply, but they get their towels down on the sunbeds even before the Germans do.

It's a disaster

Nijmegen · 10-03-2020 12:16PM

To be honest if Italy can and do get it under control, I'm feeling a lot of confidence that we can all break the back of this early.

But it's chicken and egg: If you don't take the virus seriously, it will grow exponentially. If you take the hard steps and stop it, people might guffaw at you and wonder what all the fuss was about. People are bad at judging risk.

However, having been here since the beginning of this thing it's good to see some positive news that you can hopefully have faith in from South Korea, Singapore, even parts of Italy. It's still going to spike here, but the size of the hockey stick might be muted because we see it coming a long way off.

Still, even with only a few thousand cases in Ireland we'd probably have some harrowing cases from our overstretched hospitals. But I'm feeling quietly more confident today, strangely enough, now that our government and the Italian government and others seem to be making moves.

Miike · 10-03-2020 12:16PM

Unearthly wrote: »

My multinational is still sleeping at the wheel. No laptops handed out yet except senior management and other high grade jobs that had them already

Do they have any business continuity strategy in place? :pac:

timmyntc · 10-03-2020 12:16PM

BobMc wrote: »

Trying to keep up with this thread is tough going, pages added while reading,

My query is at what point to we just throw our hands up in the air and say screw it, just carry on as normal
and hope for the best, its bound to get worse before it gets better so when do we just all fire away and take
what may or may not come,

close schools for 3 weeks fine, send them back in and a case appears now what close for months? till september,
a case in a factory close indefinately? just curious as to when we just have no choice but to belt on
and cross fingers

We don't do that ever, because it will mean far more deaths than if we do take precautions, close schools, businesses etc.

even if everyone in Ireland ends up getting it in the long run - its still worth it, because if we all get it at the same time there wont be capacity in hospitals to treat everyone. Only way to prevent hospitals getting overwhelmed is to delay the virus by closing schools, businesses, cancelling mass gatherings.

nthclare · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

British Airways have cancelled all flights to and from Italy.

Ryanair still flying to and from all parts of Italy. With no isolation of people coming off the planes.

Typical of Ryan Air

flynnlives · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

banie01 wrote: »

Its a well reasoned measure IMO.
The repayment term can easily be extended a few months without penalty.
It also means less immediate demand for cash in the economy and allows any welfare payments granted to cover more immediate needs.

and the interest payments?
this is a free holiday for mortgage owners.

Where are the measures for renters?

silver2020 · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

gabeeg wrote: »

There's likely millions infected in Iran

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/irans-coronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/

just a tad melodramatic

even that report is based on utter bullsh1t thinking.

The biggest hidden number are in the USA where up to last weekend Trump was almost denying it was an issue.

Kiith · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

We've not had an official WFH note sent out by our company, but i fully expect it in the next few days. Massive push last two weeks to get everone on laptops and they have all been told they need to bring them home, just in case.

Either way, i'm going to go fully WFH from today. I do it 3 days per week anyway, but given my wife has had immune system issues in the past, i'd rather not even slightly risk it.

iguana · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I’m sorry but this is such a stupid thing to take from it. We don’t have to panic to prepare and start taking action that may be an inconvenience but could make our outbreak less severe.

Italy might be our future, do you understand that? This is real. This isn’t like watching a war in Syria or some African country that won’t affect us, this is here and there is a moderate to severe chance (our governments words) that we will suffer a similar fate to Italy if we don’t take it seriously NOW, not when bodies are piling up.

I think that in terms of how terrifying it is for ordinary people a few factors come into it. I'm pretty prepared for the a lockdown. I have supplies, I have plans for activities with my 7 year old, I'm mentally as prepared as possible. I'm watching this happen in Italy now, so it's easier to make the mental leap that this might/will happen to us. I'm somewhat stressed every time I go out or send my son to school. Every single little thing I do has become a big decision now, I'm making constant risk assessments about where I go and where my son goes. Being forced to stay home will actually alleviate all that stress. For people who are worried now having decisions taken out of their hands will be a form of relief.

For people who have ignored this or thought the situation was silly, being forced onto lockdown will have shocked them to their core. If they aren't prepared to be stuck at home they will be feeling sudden panic and regret for not paying attention when they had a chance. They won't be practically or mentally prepared. They will have gone from cheerily going about their lives or thinking their own drama was more important to a sudden emersion in the seriousness which will feel more terrifying because of the sudden shock of it and the fact that it could be too late to take practical measures to make the lockdown more bearable.

niallo27 · 10-03-2020 12:17PM

gabeeg wrote: »

I'm not talking about anything - it's experts that are making the estimates

If you know better than them, then it's great to have you here. Please share your estimate with us.

That article is saying that 6.9 million people have the disease in Iran right now, if that many people have it and so few have died isnt that a positive sign.

Fr_Dougal · 10-03-2020 12:18PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

You wont be laughing when the virus goes for a swim in the water supply

You won’t be laughing when you realise that tap water has the same level of filtration as bottled water, sometimes better.

Hamsterchops · 10-03-2020 12:18PM

nthclare wrote: »

Typical of Ryan Air

Probably charging extra for "virus free" seats

Funsterdelux · 10-03-2020 12:18PM

BobMc wrote: »

Trying to keep up with this thread is tough going, pages added while reading,

My query is at what point to we just throw our hands up in the air and say screw it, just carry on as normal
and hope for the best, its bound to get worse before it gets better so when do we just all fire away and take
what may or may not come,

close schools for 3 weeks fine, send them back in and a case appears now what close for months? till september,
a case in a factory close indefinately? just curious as to when we just have no choice but to belt on
and cross fingers

Hospitals wont be able to cope, there'll be no ploughing on until we can contain the virus or we get a vaccine to all the high risk groups.

reg114 · 10-03-2020 12:19PM

When this kicked off in China I including many others underestimated the potential chaos this virus could cause. I was wrong. My concern now would be the influx of 100,000 tourists coming here next week from all over the world. In the following weeks I would expect numbers infected here to rapidly rise. Personally I feel we should follow the Italians and Israel and close our borders.

Unearthly · 10-03-2020 12:19PM

Miike wrote: »

Do they have any business continuity strategy in place? :pac:

Yes. Other sites across the world had confirmed cases and the sites were closed. Just seems crazy they are taking the hit of having people at home with no laptops while still getting paid

Although ironically the China sites might be able to cover for Europe and America

Nijmegen · 10-03-2020 12:19PM

flynnlives wrote: »

and the interest payments?
this is a free holiday for mortgage owners.

Where are the measures for renters?

The issue is that banks that lend mortgages are regulated as one and can be controlled. Landlords are only lightly regulated at best and by cutting off income for them, you'd be exacerbating the problem you're trying to solve. Tho it is manifestly unfair and I would be surprised if some measures wouldn't be brought in but it's more difficult to click your fingers and make it happen versus with banks.

CrankyHaus · 10-03-2020 12:19PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You won’t be laughing when you realise that tap water has the same level of filtration as bottled water, sometimes better.

Wait, are you calling Funsterdelux a liar?

s7ryf3925pivug · 10-03-2020 12:20PM

Ever play Civilization?
Ever neglect to develop your defences and focus too much on rapid growth?
You usually get flattened if you take that strategy.

caveat emptor · 10-03-2020 12:21PM

Wow is right.

masks don't work.
closed borders don't work.

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1237311577122054144?s=20

Cork Boy 53 · 10-03-2020 12:21PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

British Airways have cancelled all flights to and from Italy.

Ryanair still flying to and from all parts of Italy. With no isolation of people coming off the planes.

And this surprises you? This needs to be stopped immediately.

Talisman · 10-03-2020 12:21PM

Apologies if this was previously posted, but there's an article explaining that the reason why Germany is coping relatively well with the outbreak there is because of their testing strategy.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/03/09/world/europe/ap-eu-virus-outbreak-germany.html

recyclebin · 10-03-2020 12:22PM

Ludovico Einaudi has cancelled his gig in the Bord Gais this Friday. The fiancée is devastated.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP