Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Note the distances between people!

DrumSteve wrote: »

the italian lockdown will instill some confidence anyway.

I am waiting to see how markets react when France starts enforcing some type of lockdown closely followed by Germany. Probably within a week or 2.

Not to mention if New-York ever has to go into a lock down and Wall Street traders start fearing for their own families.

pad199207 wrote: »

Completely unconfirmed but I’m hearing schools may be closing next Wednesday for a month

Entirely sensible IMO. Schools are going to be the worst places for virus transmission. There's far less physical distance between schoolchildren and workers in most cases.

Our local grammar school here in the outskirts of Berlin had a confirmed case and the idiots have only enforced isolation for 3 classes. We believe this is wholly inadequate.

Better to effectively postpone the school term into the summer when the virus will hopefully have weakened like the flu.

tillyfilly wrote: »

Funeral directors have been advised that any person who dies of coronavirus should be immediately cremated or buried without a funeral service.

The Irish Association of Funeral Directors has distributed a list of radical recommendations in the event of Covid-19 related deaths.

https://amp.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-victims-to-be-immediately-buried-without-funeral-service-39031428.html

60 of Spain's rising coronavirus total traced to one funeral !

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

My friend's boss came back from an undisclosed location (won't tell him) in that general region and won't self isolate either. The boss told him use his annual leave if he insists on staying out and that he wouldn't cooperate with requests for social welfare because he's being hysterical. My friend has a wife who has cancer and a young child with a heart condition. Nice boss.

He's taking his laissez faire attitude from the government who are still not taking this seriously.

Simon Coveney is still listening to failed experts.
He should be listening to Chinese experts.

MadYaker wrote: »

We are beyond this point now. As this gathers momentum the hse will only test people who are very ill and in hospital because soon there will be so many that they’ll simply have to ignore anyone who isn’t in hospital. They are saying they are still in the containment phase but really we’ve moved to the delay phase now. If you haven’t watched Leo’s press conference from last night you should, it’s on his Twitter. If I can find it I’ll link it in the thread.

Containment and delay only work if you ban travel from a Red Zone, and trace everyone who came from there. We didn't do that.

00benski wrote: »

Oh for f*** sake. Can people please stop posting stuff up here without confirmation. Its adding to the hysteria and it's plain wrong.

Hear! Hear!

...and 99% of the time is utter nonsense!

Xertz wrote: »

To be quite honest, the country that I would be most concerned about not handling this very well, and that has the resources to do so, is probably the USA.
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Big time, I wonder if this will swing support towards Sanders who is advocating universal healthcare.

Sobering news about hospitals in Italy not taking over 65s. Thats truly terrible.

Graces7 wrote: »

I have been safely combining aspirin with ibuprofen for many years, Paracetamol has no effect.

Please; ask your GP or pharmacy as I did rather than what is per se medical advice here?

Here's why these threads can be dangerous. That is very bad advice and not safe. Both aspirin and ibuprofen belong to a drug class called nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. They are not to be combined. Paracetamol and Ibuprofen certainly but not those two. No GP or Pharmacist will advise combining these.

Fics wrote: »

New procedures in work, all non essential inter-department meetings/socialising banned any that have to go ahead must last less then ten mins and where possible keep more then a meter apart. Big changes to how we work.

Anyone else have company policies introduced?

Yea, no spending half the day on boards.ie!

dougm1970 wrote: »

ok...again, apologies in advance, i'm pure stupid...but one thing about testing that i'm wondering about.
i seen (online posts) people getting scanned at airports, and was watching a youtuber last night being scanned with a scanner on a train in armenia.
what do these scans show or determine compared to the tests that confirm the virus in hospitals ?

the airport scans are marketing. sure you might spot the odd person with elevated temperature but they just spend an hour on a plane with 300 other people, so unless you are going to stop them all its not a good method and it just means they have a temperature (could be from a normal flu). that is used by governments to show they are doing something, its pointless theatrics. just my opinion. i guess it might stop some who have it from doing medical migration to get the best treatment.

on the subject of real testing however, you get a different story. Look at what South Korea (Singapore and Taiwan) has done. i believe they have tested close to 100,000 (something like that) in S Korea. they have mobile testing centres setup in car parks where an outbreak happens, they have used mobile apps to warn if you were in a place someone who caught it was recently.
This quickly helps identify who needs to stay at home. once you stay at home the infection rate drops below 1...ie. the virus will eventually disappear and also limits the economic effects which are huge btw.

The real win here is you get a gradual incline of the virus but at one that your health service can manage. I think today SKorea infected figure dropped a lot, now down to +30ish (apologies thats from memory). also a test is a lot cheaper than a future ICU stay, it seems only S.Korea etc have realised this currently.


here is the issue for Ireland : its a maths problem
how many ICU beds do we have?
how many are available?
how many hospital beds do we have available?

thats the figure we can support of seriously infected. if the rate of increase is greater than that, you have big problems and you start to get death rates spiking like Italy and China. if you see exponential growth tail end of this week/next week like experienced everywhere else, i would not be surprised if the order goes out to do what Italy has done, stay at home. this will get the infection rate below +1. it is a bombshell to our economy however.

finally, dont want to be a debbie downer, but we need to prepare that this will now be an annual event for a while. The infamous 1918 virus was around until 1920. pretty sure the death rate in year 2 was way higher btw. this virus will disappear in the summer (the sun is a great sterliser) but its pretty much guaranteed to be back next autumn (lets pray not in a more dangerous form). until we get the best antiviral solution of herd immunity of +70%(or a vaccine but thats a long shot)..its here for a while. again just an opinion yours may differ...

pps there was a great book years ago i read called 'the hot zone'. its primarily based on the little known ebola outbreak in the US (Reston). if you want to scare the living crap out of yourself read that book and see how close to catastrophe we were and you could argue...are.