Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

You mean resuscitated? Link?

joe40 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXIetP5iak

We're in stage 2.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Coveney was asked on Morning Ireland when we could expect to move to the delay phase and he replied that in a lot of ways we are in that phase now. Maybe it was his own personal opinion rather than an official Government statement but he did say it.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Good news from South Korea. 131 new cases yesterday so the increase is continuing to decline.

However, CNN is reporting of a significant new cluster in a call centre in Seoul which has authorities concerned.

Much of what has been going on in SK is, until now, believed to be linked to some weird cult.

is_that_so wrote: »

And again self-isolation can address that and they do seem to have carried out contact tracing. If we do get to much larger numbers it will be down to the most severe cases being under medial care and anyone with a fever to stay home.

Xertz wrote: »

To be quite honest, the country that I would be most concerned about not handling this very well, and that has the resources to do so, is probably the USA.

I've been talking to some American friends and keeping in touch online and between the climate of conspiracy theories, paranoia and politicisation of information and the fact that people are afraid to come forward for testing due to risk of fees, I would suspect that a lot of people will just get symptoms and stay at home.

I was talking to one friend of mine who's self employed and in a state with very little in the way of social protections and he is concerned that he will simply run out of money if he's quarantined, and there are no real back ups if he does.

On top of that, in the state that he is in (and I'm not naming it but it is one of the classic 'red states') that the whole thing has turned into a political mess and there's just no logical leadership at all coming form the top. You've people buying into conspiracy theories, others seeing it as the coming of 'judgement day' and all sorts of nutty stuff and that is actually represented in the political system there, not just some obscure fringes of the internet.

The US normally had pretty robust infrastructure with the CDC and other federal agencies, but they're being politically undermined too.

I mean, for all the flaws with HSE A&Es being over stuffed, at least Ireland's dealing with these things logically and, even without a new government in place, there's leadership coming from the top and from all parties and everyone's more or less on the same page.

I would also suspect that if it does get bad here, people will pull together, you're not going to get that sense that if there's limited policing the whole society will melt down and turn into looting, whereas you do get that sense in some US cities. Most of the time Ireland functions with very little policing anyway.

rebeve wrote: »

South Korea proves what can be done if the correct measures are taken , last week they were in freefall ,but they seem to have got it under some measure of control now .

Xertz wrote: »

To be quite honest, the country that I would be most concerned about not handling this very well, and that has the resources to do so, is probably the USA.

I've been talking to some American friends and keeping in touch online and between the climate of conspiracy theories, paranoia and politicisation of information and the fact that people are afraid to come forward for testing due to risk of fees, I would suspect that a lot of people will just get symptoms and stay at home.

I was talking to one friend of mine who's self employed and in a state with very little in the way of social protections and he is concerned that he will simply run out of money if he's quarantined, and there are no real back ups if he does.

On top of that, in the state that he is in (and I'm not naming it but it is one of the classic 'red states') that the whole thing has turned into a political mess and there's just no logical leadership at all coming form the top. You've people buying into conspiracy theories, others seeing it as the coming of 'judgement day' and all sorts of nutty stuff and that is actually represented in the political system there, not just some obscure fringes of the internet.

The US normally had pretty robust infrastructure with the CDC and other federal agencies, but they're being politically undermined too.

I mean, for all the flaws with HSE A&Es being over stuffed, at least Ireland's dealing with these things logically and, even without a new government in place, there's leadership coming from the top and from all parties and everyone's more or less on the same page.

I would also suspect that if it does get bad here, people will pull together, you're not going to get that sense that if there's limited policing the whole society will melt down and turn into looting, whereas you do get that sense in some US cities. Most of the time Ireland functions with very little policing anyway.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Coveney was asked on Morning Ireland when we could expect to move to the delay phase and he replied that in a lot of ways we are in that phase now.