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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #4172
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    00benski wrote: »
    As a business owner and an employer in this country I have to say I have never ever come across so much misinformation as I have over the last few days whilst reading through this tread.

    Plenty of people spreading panic and it's terrible to see. As of today we have had two big things cancelled this week that will ultimately lose us a huge amount of revenue. Its really worrying times for the majority of business owners I can garuntee that. Its OK when you are sitting at home still getting paid by your employer laughing and smiling at the rumours being spread around the table about how many people COULD die.

    Please stop spreading idle talk about what might happen because you will regret it when your employer turns around in a month's time and says "sorry I have to reduce your wages or let you go" when all this could have had minimal impact.

    We’ll all just shut up, head dutifully to work and keep making you money so. Sorry for getting uppity boss.


  • #4173
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    They have 2 deaths.


  • #4174
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    2 today, I read earlier.


  • #4175
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    2 deaths today


  • #4176
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Xertz wrote: »
    It seems a bit crazy that Northern Ireland isn’t cancelling Patrick’s Day parades yet. It’s not like virus will stop at the non border and have its passport checked.

    They are nowhere as big as in ROI. I would not be surprised in they follow/cancel them.


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  • #4177
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    dan786 wrote: »
    They have 2 deaths.
    cnocbui wrote: »
    2 today, I read earlier.

    Ah ok I was following with the John's Hopkins map.


  • #4178
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,387 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!
    As everyone else has said they have 2.
    They must have an excellent healthcare system I guess


  • #4179
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    Didn’t they report 2 deaths today?


  • #4180
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    Zwei toten


  • #4181
    charlietheminxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    fits wrote: »
    Needs to be brought in here too.

    I actually need to bring one of my children to a GP, its non-urgent, but Im wondering whether to go now or hold off.

    Would VideoDoc or something similar be any good to you?


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  • #4182
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Todays World Health Organization press conference





    Dr Michael Ryan was very impressive !

    Article about Dr Ryan from Irish Times

    Classic Ryan, always late!


  • #4183
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Head of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (which runs the airports like JFK) has tested positive for the virus. 142 cases total in New York so far.

    When high profile people are getting it, you have to wonder about the overall spread (ala Iran when they said they had barely any cases but MPs and Ministers were getting it).


  • #4184
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    laugh wrote: »
    How is Germany managing to have no deaths with 1151 cases?!

    They should tell the rest of the world !

    I imagine that it may be due to the fact that they have enough Critical Care beds and perhaps the use of ECMO (heart lung machines)


  • #4185
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    another measure to dampen the spread in Germany has just been announced.

    Anyone with cold or flu like symptoms can get a 7 day sick note from their doctor over the phone, the employee on full pay and their employer getting reemboursed the wages from medical insurance(source here )
    This both avoids needing them to go to a doctors surgery and needlessly infect others, takes them out of the work environment possibly infecting others and also lets them recover from an early stage, hopefully to full health.

    Compare this to the US where low paid workers have no come back and inevitably will go to work and spread it to other members of staff and customers, I have more hope that the virus will spread less quickly in Germany than in the US .

    I have cold symptoms and took today off but have no choice but to go back in tomorrow. Would be great to have something similar here, employer could claim of their PRSI contributions


  • #4186
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭circadian


    00benski wrote: »
    As a business owner and an employer in this country I have to say I have never ever come across so much misinformation as I have over the last few days whilst reading through this tread.

    Plenty of people spreading panic and it's terrible to see. As of today we have had two big things cancelled this week that will ultimately lose us a huge amount of revenue. Its really worrying times for the majority of business owners I can garuntee that. Its OK when you are sitting at home still getting paid by your employer laughing and smiling at the rumours being spread around the table about how many people COULD die.

    Please stop spreading idle talk about what might happen because you will regret it when your employer turns around in a month's time and says "sorry I have to reduce your wages or let you go" when all this could have had minimal impact.

    Are you for real? One way or another your business will be affected by this. Either by staff not coming in due to illness or a drop in whatever service your business provides.

    If any of your staff may have this illnes then the socially acceptable thing is to cover when they are out. This is an exceptional circumstance.


  • #4187
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    How many cases do we have now?

    I have a sore throat and my chest feels tight.

    Still at 21 at the moment, it will get updated at 6 PM, so go onto RTE News Now at the time for the live broadcast I think from the HSE.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #4188
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    00benski wrote: »
    As a business owner and an employer in this country I have to say I have never ever come across so much misinformation as I have over the last few days whilst reading through this tread.

    Plenty of people spreading panic and it's terrible to see. As of today we have had two big things cancelled this week that will ultimately lose us a huge amount of revenue. Its really worrying times for the majority of business owners I can garuntee that. Its OK when you are sitting at home still getting paid by your employer laughing and smiling at the rumours being spread around the table about how many people COULD die.

    Please stop spreading idle talk about what might happen because you will regret it when your employer turns around in a month's time and says "sorry I have to reduce your wages or let you go" when all this could have had minimal impact.

    If we do not try and contain this then the economic impact may be much larger in the long run. Not even mentioning the human costs.


  • #4189
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,387 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Todays World Health Organization press conference





    Dr Michael Ryan was very impressive !

    Article about Dr Ryan from Irish Times
    Cracking article thanks for sharing.
    Sounds like he has had a really interesting life...I'd get the rights bought up if I was a Hollywood producer!


  • #4190
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    gabeeg wrote: »
    At a 1% mortality rate, 1000 deaths means an outbreak of 100,000

    How do you think the gov are going to contain an outbreak of that size?


    1% is far from reality
    Today the rate is at 6.79% and no longer trending down
    It means that an infected patient has 6.79% chances to die


  • #4191
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    00benski wrote: »
    As a business owner and an employer in this country I have to say I have never ever come across so much misinformation as I have over the last few days whilst reading through this tread.

    Plenty of people spreading panic and it's terrible to see. As of today we have had two big things cancelled this week that will ultimately lose us a huge amount of revenue. Its really worrying times for the majority of business owners I can garuntee that. Its OK when you are sitting at home still getting paid by your employer laughing and smiling at the rumours being spread around the table about how many people COULD die.

    Please stop spreading idle talk about what might happen because you will regret it when your employer turns around in a month's time and says "sorry I have to reduce your wages or let you go" when all this could have had minimal impact.
    Excellent post. Complete scaremongering and figures picked from the sky throughout this thread.

    The government is doing exactly what’s required so far.
    Italy’s aged population has caused elevated death rates among terminally ill/end of life patients.

    We need a measured response to do all to prevent the spread of this while ensuring business are protected best as possible.

    Looking like tourism and hospitality are going to struggle this year.


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  • #4192
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    fits wrote: »
    Thats not really fair.

    People are dissing consideration of business and the economy -forgetting there was a pretty large death toll in wake of the recession too :(

    He is lashing out and shooting the messenger in blaming people discussing the situation.

    There are extremes here on both sides but most people are fairly balanced and are not overhyping the situation. We are looking at whats happening in Italy as an example of the what could be our reality in a couple of weeks. That is being realistic not spreading fear.


  • #4193
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Still at 21 at the moment, it will get updated at 6 PM, so go onto RTE News Now at the time for the live broadcast I think from the HSE.

    apparently delayed according to ivan yates


  • #4194
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    1% is far from reality
    Today the rate is at 6.79% and no longer trending down
    It means that an infected patient has 6.79% chances to die

    Say what?

    Inclusive of all cases the CFR is 5.79%.

    Also the IFR is different and a lot lower.


  • #4195
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,387 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    charlietheminxx wrote: »
    Would VideoDoc or something similar be any good to you?
    Great idea Irish life do a digital doctor thing for free if you are a member, they schedule it via phone or video chat then fax prescription to chemist for you to pick up


  • #4196
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    The Government is to introduce emergency legislation in the Dáil to amend the rules on sick pay, which will see Illness Benefit rise from €203 per week to €305.

    It will be available from the first day of illness rather than after six days as at present, and conditionality will be waived to allow the self employed to receive it.

    There will be no minimum number of PRSI contributions, but medical certification will be required.

    The Taoiseach said the objective was to ensure that workers would not be afraid to self-isolate on financial grounds.


  • #4197
    00benski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭00benski


    circadian wrote: »
    Are you for real? One way or another your business will be affected by this. Either by staff not coming in due to illness or a drop in whatever service your business provides.

    If any of your staff may have this illnes then the socially acceptable thing is to cover when they are out. This is an exceptional circumstance.

    I am in a lucky position that I can and will pay my staff if they need to take a couple of weeks off due to sickness. Believe me I am a very fair, kind and good employer. I can go to bed every night knowing I have done my best for both myself and my staff. My issue is not with that. My issue is with the panic this is causing amongst the public through misinformation by people who don't really know what is happening.


  • #4198
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    1% is far from reality
    Today the rate is at 6.79% and no longer trending down
    It means that an infected patient has 6.79% chances to die

    That figure can't be applied to an individual without adjusting for all other factors.

    It does *not* mean that Ms Smith, who just tested positive, will be assigned a 6.79pc chance of dying. Or any other estimate of cfr either.


  • #4199
    JustAThought
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    If we do not try and contain this then the economic impact may be much larger in the long run. Not even mentioning the human costs.

    Well if the Irish authorities had placed those people on the plane in quarentine ir acted like a reaponsible grown up government like many others around the world did we would not have have the situation we have now with 200 St Patricks Day parades and the big one in Dublin cancelled.


  • #4200
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    bb12 wrote: »
    apparently delayed according to ivan yates

    Every day last week it was supposed to be at 5.30 or 6 and got delayed till 8.30


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  • #4201
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    spurious wrote: »
    As would I, but 400 is not a 'not particularly good' result, which is what I was replying to.
    Just part of the bandying about of lies non-facts here.

    It was 500 points, I erred, she was, what, 20 points off the maximum possible.


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