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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The EU is run by incompetent fools only interested in lining their own pockets.

    The EU has no say in this. Health is not done at an EU level, it is up to each member state. When Germany banned the export of respiratory equipment last week, that pretty much tells you that it's each country for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Quick calculation of current (active) cases per million population,

    Iceland 162 per million (pop 340,000)
    South Korea 140
    Italy 112
    Iran 50
    Switzerland 38
    Norway 32
    Sweden 20
    China 17
    Belgium 17
    France 17
    Netherlands 15
    Spain 14
    Germany 12
    Austria 12
    Singapore 11
    UK 4
    Ireland 4
    Portugal 3
    Japan 3
    Denmark 3
    USA 2
    Czech Republic 2
    Canada 1
    Poland 0 (0.280
    This is incorrect, was posted days ago when we had fewer cases. If we have 21 confirmed cases, that's 5 per million. There are also 177 medical professionals self-isolating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    But he is more than lying. How does nobody get this? If we divert funds to the northeast even then that's means it receives care.

    Have you answered to Private Hospital Cork question yet?
    It was posted on here 48 hours ago
    Reported in the figures today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Found this number
    A new helpline 1890 300046 has been launched to provide information and support to the public in Limerick, Clare and North Tipperary who are considered a casual contact or close contact of confirmed cases in the Mid West. The HSE Mid West Helpline Opening Hours (1890 300046) are from 10am to 5pm seven days a week. I know 10am to 5 is not much help but if you want to hold out till tomorrow its there

    When did North Tipp enter the game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    GrumPy wrote: »
    Just back from the local Aldi (Palmerstown, open until 21:00). It was closed, cornered off with a steel fence and had a big sign in red that said CLOSED - DO NOT PROCEED. :eek:

    Don't be a dope.

    "Attention Palmerstown shoppers! Our Palmerstown store will be closed for renovations from 8:00pm Saturday 7th March and will reopen at 9:00am Thursday 12th March. In the meantime, shoppers will find their nearest Aldi at the Fonthill Retail Park, Lucan. Thank you for your patience while we make our improvements."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Just had an Irish election. Who would have thought a China bat and not FF, fg or sf to solve our housing and hospital trolley problem.... Too soon?

    Just not funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭tina1040


    Abba987 wrote: »
    Can you not wait and phone gp in morning? Unless there is breathing difficulties that is probably your best option

    I will have to do that.

    However, there should be advice available to stop the spread. I was very surprised when I went to the hse website this evening and there was no detailed help or direction. It was all quite vague.
    He won't go to school tomorrow but what about work and school for the rest of us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    would we miss anybody who attends Cheltenham?

    Probably, yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    When did North Tipp enter the game?

    The area described is CHO3. Its a CHO3 line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Interesting article by a mathematician who specialises in the spread of diseases. He says the important thing to note is not to arrive at a CFR by simply comparing the number of cases to deaths at any given time. Two things skew this: the number of unreported cases, plus the delay time between illness and death. He thinks the eventual CFR from the outbreak could be anything from 0.5% to 2%.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/health/coronavirus-deaths-rates.html

    Here's a new unreviewed paper that tries to estimate CFR for Hubei, factoring in asymptomatic cases and time delay to outcome.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.04.20031104v1.full.pdf

    They assumed 49% asymptomatic cases based on figures from the Diamond Princess, and arrived at an overall CFR of 1.6%, varying significantly with age.
    [From what we've read / heard elsewhere, CFR for the epidemic in Hubei seems likely to be worse than elsewhere in China]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Bob24 wrote: »
    Even with excellent healthcare, no death for 1000 cases is massive outlier.

    Japan, South Korea, France or Switzerland aren’t too shabby either and none of them managed to have a track record of no casualty once their passed a few hundred cases.

    I don’t know what it is, but I am convinced there je something about Germany we don’t understand. Either something they are doing differently, something different in their circumstances, or something different in the way they produce their figures.

    I heard a caller on Joe Duffy (I know desperate times :D) last week who called in from Germany. She lives in Munich but was Irish. See said she had a fever and was sufficiently ill that she went to A and E. They kept her in a room with 5 other patients all of which had similar symptoms. They weren't going to test her for the virus nor the others. She was asked to remain on the ward for a number of days but was free to leave. She said she wouldn't leave despite being fed up. She was just really confused as to why they weren't testing her. Can't remember if she travelled to affect region.

    Again looks similar to most countries approaches of not testing. Which result in a net effect of artificially smaller number of cases but artificially higher death rate.

    Scare-mongering and hopefulness in equal measure. Something for everyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Apparently North Korean scientists have developed a vaccine. The formula is available to all countries except the United States to purchase for 1billion USD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher



    This is probably a millennial thing but it's worrying all the same that a lot of people these days can't cope with bad news.

    Agreed with the rest of your post but don't generalise with tagging it as a millennial thing. Back in 2006 the few who were posting up all the warning signs were labelled the same thing, talking down the economy, doom mongers etc etc.

    Now we face a new (and worse) crisis and it's the same type of mentality popping up again - it's across all generations, young and old and everything in between.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Ever see the equine hospital in Meath. Thats where I want to go if Im ever sick.

    i wouldn't go with a broken leg...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Just had an Irish election. Who would have thought a China bat and not FF, fg or sf to solve our housing and hospital trolley problem.... Too soon?

    It didn't hit the spot and I love a "too soon" joke.

    All it's missing is a funny end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Is the young school lad form glasnevin back to full health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Yesterday France has 949 cases up 336, there’s no way the rugby will be played with a full crowd next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    If these people are not ill, it would be helpful if they were deployed on helpline type services from a computer at home.

    This is an excellent idea, but will it be identified by the HSE and logistically do the HSE have the ability to set this up in a short time frame... very doubtful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    When did North Tipp enter the game?

    thanks mix up on my part but they may be able to help or point in some direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Every time I get on that over crowded morning train to work I am on edge. Coughers, vanity coughs, vanity sneezes etc and not one person wearing a mask. I'd wear one but the cases aren't high enough to justify it and also there's the probability that other people will think I'm infected. There's the social stigma too but it's crazy, it should be ok to wear masks on trains, even gas masks, I'm eyeing several. I won't judge so why should they???!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Phil.x wrote: »
    Is the young school lad form glasnevin back to full health.

    Ireland has no recovered cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    dan786 wrote: »
    Three deaths in UK.

    Cheltenham on Tuesday with a lot of old folks attending and with an average of 66000 people per day.

    Its not looking good for UK.

    And what about all the Premiership matches, and other gatherings of numerous crowds all in one location like Crufts and so on.

    Soon enough the 1,000 limit for gatherings might apply although I can't see it happening re soccer.

    We should lead by limiting groups to less than 1,000 if numbers increase over the next few days. I think most people would be relieved at some clear direction and decisions. But Mammon rules.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Apparently North Korean scientists have developed a vaccine. The formula is available to all countries except the United States to purchase for 1billion USD.

    I’ll take 10

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike



    This is desperately bad news :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    Reporting the news is not scaremongering or doomsday prepping.

    If the subject matter of the thread is upsetting you that much just don't look at the thread.

    But stop coming in and calling everyone scaremongerers etc.

    99% of reports posted here are 100% verifiable news reports and stats.

    The most concerning thing for me about these threads is those who seem totally ill equipped to deal with any crisis.

    This is probably a millennial thing but it's worrying all the same that a lot of people these days can't cope with bad news.

    Again you don't have to look at the thread. Plenty of other places to get info from.
    I wish it was just a millennial thing but as a 30 year old I've been trying to convince my 45 year old manager that it isn't scare mongering and the office should be closed so everyone can WFH. He ain't hearing it, it's all blown out of proportion to sell newspapers.


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    =New Home;112768383]

    In my personal experience, I'd sooner trust a vet than a doctor, at least vets look a their patients and visit them/QUOTE]

    Ah man, how did.we get here? This is absolutely embarassing
    Somebody saying that a vet who treats many mammals.(and others) would be be better suited to treating humans than human vets aka doctors
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Apparently North Korean scientists have developed a vaccine. The formula is available to all countries except the United States to purchase for 1billion USD.

    Read that - calling it Botulinum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    Every time I get on that over crowded morning train to work I am on edge. Coughers, vanity coughs, vanity sneezes etc and not one person wearing a mask. I'd wear one but the cases aren't high enough to justify it and also there's the probability that other people will think I'm infected. There's the social stigma too but it's crazy, it should be ok to wear masks on trains, even gas masks, I'm eyeing several. I won't judge so why should they???!

    Mission accomplished. They want you living in fear. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Every time I get on that over crowded morning train to work I am on edge. Coughers, vanity coughs, vanity sneezes etc and not one person wearing a mask.
    Well there could be the fact masks are almost impossible to come by. Even GPs - who need masks - can't source them so your average commuter certainly is unlikely to!


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