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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #1982
    [Deleted User]
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    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Testimony of a surgeon working in Bergamo, in the heart of Italy's coronavirus outbreak
    «

    I read this on the link earlier. Hopefully it will not be our future.


  • #1983
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Still waiting for the Drogheda three. People need to wake up and check their facts. This **** can actually effect Public care.
    That's great if it effects public care.
    If it affected it, well that might not be so good.


  • #1984
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Mis-information about Covid19.
    Facts : There are 45,000 cases of Covid19 worldwide
    61,000 cases have recovered
    RTE are saying that there are now 109,000 cases of the virus. Yes, but only 45,000 cases of people now infected. 61,000 have already recovered.
    Can this fact be published somewhere. It seems trusted media is going down the sensatonalist route to get clicks or something.

    But there are 109,823 reported cases (so it is reported correctly) worldwide, there are 48,860 active cases currently, there is a difference between reported and active cases. That's how case numbers work.


  • #1985
    Ardent
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    China saw just over 50 new cases today. Italy had almost 1500 new cases today! Italy is up s**t creek.


  • #1986
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Not entirely sure why people are sniping at each other on here; we all want the same outcome, the minimum amount of upheaval and death possible.

    Nobody knows whats coming. We can make a pretty good guess though, that if we don't get the finger out and be pro active, a lot of elderly people and people with vulnerabilites will die.

    Some people are lying or spreading false information. This doesn't serve any purpose apart from scare mongering


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  • #1987
    faceman
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    STB. wrote: »
    Italy were in the same boat as Ireland a few weeks back. Now they are fighting a health epidemic.

    FFS.

    Can you elaborate on this as to why Italy were in the same boat as Ireland? This is being bandied around a lot. Unless there is something specific, can the argument not be made that every EU country is how Italy was a few weeks ago? I don't believe Ireland is unique but also I don't believe Ireland and many other EU countries are on the same path to where Italy is.

    Italy made some errors in the early days of the infection, most notably the infamous case in Lombardy of the 38 year old who had COVID-19 but was not put in isolation by the hospital. There is an ongoing prosecution investigation into if this was the primary cause of the explosion in cases.

    The guy, "Mattia", presented himself in hospital on a number of occasions with symptoms and was discharged each time. He is believed to be patient 1 in Lombardy. It took almost a week before he was tested and had contact with numerous people in the meantime. Incidentally I believe he is still in a serious condition in hospital.

    Couple that with the believed initial downplaying of the situation in Italy as the government were fearful of borders being closed with Italy and you have a recipe for disaster.

    This has been covered extensively in the media.

    There is no evidence to suggest that this has happened in Ireland or indeed any other EU country yet.


  • #1988
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    martingriff wrote: »
    Oh I agree those that do have to go its be scary but hopefully those areas well be so cleansed it be fine

    bahaha! Can def say cleanliness was no top priory there last time. Try praying to the porcelain god and at the same time trying to avoid the sh*t smeared all over the toilet seat. I was not responsible for the sh*t, that was someone else in the A+E department.


  • #1989
    Away With The Fairies
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I spent all weekend hiding in from this bitch

    Same here. I've been self isolating and I'm not even sick. Just work-home-shop. I had a class as well but I didn't go because the way how things are going, I probably won't get to sit the exams and if I do someone around me will be coughing. I just don't know if I should finish the part time course I've been doing. It's still early days to give up on the course, so I'll see how things go.


  • #1990
    wexfordman2
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    expectationlost wrote: »
    high risk why?

    Because he exhibits all the symptoms, because he was in a place (cuh), where there were cases and because he is now in his second dose of antibiotics to try and clear what his gp is claiming is a flue. He is young, but quite ill.


  • #1991
    niallo27
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    J_1980 wrote: »
    Lol
    Korea, Japan, China, Singapore even Thailand are doing an amazing job in containing this vs. Europe.

    Their authoritarian, free-market capitalist system seems to be working much better than Europe’s liberal humanitarian democracies.

    Well if you take Italy out of it, are we doing that bad.


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  • #1992
    thebaz
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    looks like the numbers in South Korea have peaked - and are now dropping - 272 new cases -


  • #1993
    2ygb4cmqetsjhx
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    J_1980 wrote: »
    Lol
    Korea, Japan, China, Singapore even Thailand are doing an amazing job in containing this vs. Europe.

    Their authoritarian, free-market capitalist system seems to be working much better than Europe’s liberal humanitarian democracies.

    Korea and Japan are democracies by the way.

    I wouldn't trust that China got a handle on this either. Let's not forget this whole mess originated because China tried to cover it up to protect their economy. Authoritarianism caused this. It isn't a solution.


  • #1994
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    That is true but what would equally be true is the current death to recovery ratio would have to be said to be 6%

    Yes and while it did continue dropping initially itts been static at 6% for a while now. Very worrying.


  • #1995
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Deleted User wrote: »
    My god. His English is impeccable.

    It's translated from the original which was in Italian. He is a fully verified surgeon.

    Oh yeah, and this is real and the barrel that the HSE are looking down right now.

    And we do not have health facilities a fifth as equipped as those in Bergamo.

    https://tg24.sky.it/cronaca/2020/03/08/coronavirus-italia-facebook-daniele-macchini.html


  • #1996
    citysights
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    Achasanai wrote: »
    I've noticed (on different shops throughout the week) a run on rice (early in the week), pasta (mid week) and toilet paper (yesterday). To be fair to the staff, they are replenished very quickly (as in, pasta and rice were both full on Saturday).

    Yes maybe people are stocking up on dry goods. Maybe it’s not country wide either just in bigger population centres.


  • #1997
    Charles Babbage
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    daheff wrote: »
    177 mentioned on the news just now


    If these people are not ill, it would be helpful if they were deployed on helpline type services from a computer at home.


  • #1998
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    thebaz wrote: »
    looks like the numbers in South Korea have peaked - and are now dropping - 272 new cases -

    That's not helpful to the cheer leaders on this thread. Some of them might not be able to orgasm tonight.


  • #1999
    Pacing Mule
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Still waiting for the Drogheda three. People need to wake up and check their facts. This **** can actually effect Public care.

    Ironically enough, everyone you're arguing with is also waiting for them. :)


  • #2000
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    wexfordman2 wrote: »
    Friend of mine, young male mid twenties, been very sick the last few days (Weds/Thursday), fever, coughing, diziness, had been a visitor to cuh over the last fortnight. His go put him on anti biotics, he feels worse now, has been back to Doctor who has given him a different dose of antibiotics, and he is still no better, and has had difficulty breathing.l, with temp.of 103. Could be flue, could be something more serious.
    He has had no luck getting any information or support, and despite his multiple please to gp and have helpline, no one has suggested anything to help him, or even get him tested for Corona.

    Last update is HSE told him to ring the occupational health line (whatever that is) tomorrow.

    We, including myself,.my wife and kids were with him on Friday, so there is a risk that if he is sick with itz we may also be susceptible.

    No advice anywhere, nothing, my son is due in school tomorrow,.my wife in work, my daughter in college, and me in work in Dublin.

    Not one official help line, no one to tell is, yes, carry in as normal,.or no, await results from our friend. Apart from one friend who is a nurse told us that he is a high risk case, and as such, we should consider ourselves high risk also.

    This says it all really. Ireland is not prepared, even with all the warnings and testimonials from Italy, China etc. And Ireland is only in double figures for the moment.


  • #2001
    Away With The Fairies
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    faceman wrote: »
    Can you elaborate on this as to why Italy were in the same boat as Ireland? This is being bandied around a lot. Unless there is something specific, can the argument not be made that every EU country is how Italy was a few weeks ago? I don't believe Ireland is unique but also I don't believe Ireland and many other EU countries are on the same path to where Italy is.

    Italy made some errors in the early days of the infection, most notably the infamous case in Lombardy of the 38 year old who had COVID-19 but was not put in isolation by the hospital. There is an ongoing prosecution investigation into if this was the primary cause of the explosion in cases.

    The guy, "Mattia", presented himself in hospital on a number of occasions with symptoms and was discharged each time. He is believed to be patient 1 in Lombardy. It took almost a week before he was tested and had contact with numerous people in the meantime. Incidentally I believe he is still in a serious condition in hospital.

    Couple that with the believed initial downplaying of the situation in Italy as the government were fearful of borders being closed with Italy and you have a recipe for disaster.

    This has been covered extensively in the media.

    There is no evidence to suggest that this has happened in Ireland or indeed any other EU country yet.

    Did we not have a doctor walking around treating patients in Limerick?

    The guy in Cork was in hospital and sent home and came back in again last week.

    So we are in the exact same place as Italy, just a few weeks behind.


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  • #2002
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    faceman wrote: »
    Can you elaborate on this as to why Italy were in the same boat as Ireland? This is being bandied around a lot. Unless there is something specific, can the argument not be made that every EU country is how Italy was a few weeks ago? I don't believe Ireland is unique but also I don't believe Ireland and many other EU countries are on the same path to where Italy is.

    Italy made some errors in the early days of the infection, most notably the infamous case in Lombardy of the 38 year old who had COVID-19 but was not put in isolation by the hospital. There is an ongoing prosecution investigation into if this was the primary cause of the explosion in cases.

    The guy, "Mattia", presented himself in hospital on a number of occasions with symptoms and was discharged each time. He is believed to be patient 1 in Lombardy. It took almost a week before he was tested and had contact with numerous people in the meantime. Incidentally I believe he is still in a serious condition in hospital.

    Couple that with the believed initial downplaying of the situation in Italy as the government were fearful of borders being closed with Italy and you have a recipe for disaster.

    This has been covered extensively in the media.

    There is no evidence to suggest that this has happened in Ireland or indeed any other EU country yet.

    But whats to say theirs not people walking around undetected here that will spread quietly for a few weeks before we have the same situation as italy?

    We now have 3 cases they cant trace back to a specific person.


  • #2003
    Quantum Erasure
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    How so? Apparently we have expected to hear them the last two nights about the Drogheda infections for the last while. Eventually, you'll be correct. But the conspiracy theorists will construct their.own narrative

    one official update a day, simple


  • #2004
    ArchXStanton
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I spent all weekend hiding in from this bitch

    I'm avoiding society... Its a petri dish


  • #2005
    Liamalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,995 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Finally found a shop with bogroll :)


  • #2006
    Kermit.de.frog
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    177 absent medical staff for 21 patients???

    Does anyone know if health services around the world are doing that?

    We can't afford to be taking medical workers away like that.

    They will just have to take risks.


  • #2007
    iguana
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    Treasure Grumpy Tie wrote: »
    Yes and while it did continue dropping initially itts been static at 6% for a while now. Very worrying.

    Check the graph. It's actually been dropping just very, slowly for the last few days. It's at 5.64%. And that's in large part because most of the fatalities are in areas with new outbreaks which have yet to enter a phase were the infected have time to recover.


  • #2008
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    thebaz wrote: »
    looks like the numbers in South Korea have peaked - and are now dropping - 272 new cases -

    China, and now South Korea hopefully peaked. How's Iran doing today?

    Italy are far from peaked yet by the looks of it.


  • #2009
    caveat emptor
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    wexfordman2 wrote: »
    Because he exhibits all the symptoms, because he was in a place (cuh), where there were cases and because he is now in his second dose of antibiotics to try and clear what his gp is claiming is a flue. He is young, but quite ill.

    If antibiotics are not helping then it is most likely viral. He should go to the hospital if it is bad no matter what the underlying cause. If he needs help he needs help.


  • #2010
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    177 absent medical staff for 21 patients???

    Does anyone know if health services around the world are doing that?

    We can't afford to be taking medical workers away like that.

    They will just have to take risks.

    I would volunteer if it came to it, and the proper safety wear was provided (and I was in the country)


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  • #2011
    drunkmonkey
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    Liamalone wrote: »
    Finally found a shop with bogroll :)

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