Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Charles Babbage · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

owlbethere wrote: »

There will be so much change that we've never seen before in our country that will shock and rock many people and families and communities. If the hospitals are at full capacity and you have a family member struggling with difficulties, you're talking about watching someone die at home.

Presuming, of course, that people have families who are well enough and near enough to watch them die.

banie01 · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Since Friday. Apparently.
I'm more than happy to provide my details to a moderator on this thread.

I'd posted about unreported cases I'd been made aware of in Limerick by Medical and Academic colleagues.
Those are cases I 100% have trust in the person relying the info regarding.
Those cases have yet to appear on any reportage of the matter.

That may very well be because the HSE are solely reporting clinically confirming diagnosis confirmed by the NVLS.

Which is an "accurate" report, however it's a report of a deliberately distorted picture.
We know there are now 22 confirmed cases.

We do not know.
Versus how many tests?
How many have been asked to self isolate by GP or HSE live and are awaiting testing?
How many have a differential diagnosis of Covid-19 and are awaiting clinical confirmation?
How many potential cases are currently hospitalised?

All those little details build towards a far clearer picture of the current situation.
The partial information being provided at present is akin to propaganda.

It allows the very worst of misinformation presented by anybody sounding reasonably cogent, to appear not just possible but reasonable.

A fuller picture than just the confirmed infections would go a long way toward dispelling that.

kowloon · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

Westernyelp wrote: »

can ye take it outside please?

This account has been compromised by the virus and is trying to lure us out of isolation.

ChikiChiki · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

Loughc wrote: »

Honestly not trolling. I was expecting a massive jump on the numbers surely that’s a good indication we only had an increase of 3.

Apologies. Although there is a good graph a couple of pages back that shows how it grows. I would be very surprised if just the 3 infections over the weekend. I know they are the official numbers but take with a grain of salt.

jarvis · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been open and honest about my desire to protect the Irish public. If there was a case of hospitals hiding their cases, US2 should actually do his/her bit and let somebody know. I've offered to act on his behalf if they/their source is unwilling to act.

Oh give over will ya. We know you’re a hero without a cape who has friends in high places. You’re great. Well done.

If you think it’s BS fine. Say it. But move on for the sake of the nation.

gabeeg · 08-03-2020 09:33PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We must be one of the few countries that have it, and are not experiencing any (noticeable) increase. Just a single case for each of the last two days.

It's not quite Turkey levels with regards to managing the disease (I think they're still at zero) but definitely up there.

You don't know how funny this is

Kermit.de.frog · 08-03-2020 09:33PM

Reporting the news is not scaremongering or doomsday prepping.

If the subject matter of the thread is upsetting you that much just don't look at the thread.

But stop coming in and calling everyone scaremongerers etc.

99% of reports posted here are 100% verifiable news reports and stats.

The most concerning thing for me about these threads is those who seem totally ill equipped to deal with any crisis.

This is probably a millennial thing but it's worrying all the same that a lot of people these days can't cope with bad news.

Again you don't have to look at the thread. Plenty of other places to get info from.

Wombatman · 08-03-2020 09:33PM

Loughc wrote: »

Honestly not trolling. I was expecting a massive jump on the numbers surely that’s a good indication we only had an increase of 3.

I expect the low number over the weekend are due to the HSE weekend wind down.

I expect at least 10 to be reported tomorrow.

Feel free to take the pi$$ and call me a gobsheen this time tomorrow evening.

Not criticising the weekend ramp down BTW. It is what is is.

GrumPy · 08-03-2020 09:33PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Really?

Yes.

TheQuietBeatle · 08-03-2020 09:33PM

Turkey are hiding their numbers most likely.

el Fenomeno · 08-03-2020 09:34PM

Are flights still leaving Milan and Treviso airport for international destinations?

caveat emptor · 08-03-2020 09:34PM

STB. wrote: »

They'll have a special part for the naysayers.

You need to come into the real world. I suggest you start with the experience of one of the surgeons treating people for coronavirus at Chirurgo Generale in Bergamo and the devastating scenario they are dealing with. Now think about your local hospital.

That might give you a wake up call.

We have to be positive but some people don't see it as a problem until it affects them personally.

I'd like to share some of the experience people are having in Italy but it's not fair to the people here who have real concern.

This is real. Throwing scorn on people who understand something more than they do is an age old tactic. Sharing links to people who are global experts in this area is not possible.

It'll be grand brigade have this.

jam_mac_jam · 08-03-2020 09:34PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

Interesting / worrying statistic re hospital beds per 1,000 people. Germany 8, Ireland 2.96, Italy 3.6

Might also help explain why Germany is doing better than Italy on deaths.

https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1236547525529800705?s=21

Clearly Germany is doing something right.

Achasanai · 08-03-2020 09:34PM

gabeeg wrote: »

You don't know how funny this is

I have a fair idea actually.

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 09:34PM

Ariah Happy Rooster wrote: »

One forecast comes via an expert in this arena (the Ebola Dr), and holds merit. Other numerous states hold this projection also, and are actively projecting policy phases to match it.

Any opinion of a 2wk blow out, is largely meaningless, even dangerously comical to anyone even slightly informed.

The Ebola doctor is like the rest, it could the this, it could be that. Including the possibility that it will all be over in a short time. I would not quote his best or worst case speculation as being more reliable than other sources.

ChurchtownMan · 08-03-2020 09:35PM

Loughc wrote: »

Honestly not trolling. I was expecting a massive jump on the numbers surely that’s a good indication we only had an increase of 3.

Unfortunately not.
The statistic is misleading. Those detected were only detected for that reason because they needed acute medical attention. Effectively, it is a selective sample of those who have most quickly become part of the 10-15% of those infected. It is not representative as an indicator of the number infected.

ChikiChiki · 08-03-2020 09:35PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

I own the rights to this thread.
For my Netflix series.

You have the makings of a 5 part limited series so far. This can be the pilot season.

Reckon you will have 10 seasons by the end so get making!

Tootsie_1 · 08-03-2020 09:35PM

GrumPy wrote: »

Just back from the local Aldi (Palmerstown, open until 21:00). It was closed, cornered off with a steel fence and had a big sign in red that said CLOSED - DO NOT PROCEED. :eek:

"Attention Palmerstown shoppers! Our Palmerstown store will be closed for renovations from 8:00pm Saturday 7th March and will reopen at 9:00am Thursday 12th March. In the meantime, shoppers will find their nearest Aldi at the Fonthill Retail Park, Lucan. Thank you for your patience while we make our improvements." - ALDI IRELAND :mad:

New Home · 08-03-2020 09:35PM

Found it. The total number of tests carried out in Italy as of 6PM local time today was 49937. On top of the 7375 cases in Italy, there are also 36 cases in San Marino and 1 in the Vatican.

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Not posting about infection projections etc but a little bit of info for those who buy a pulse oximeter.

4. Measure it on the same finger every time and pick a finger which isn't caked in dirt and doesn't have extensive scarring and calluses. OR COLD OR WET. COLD FINGERS WON'T RECORD PROPERLY. Different fingers will often give different readings, as will different pulse-oxymeters.

Added a bit.

is_that_so wrote: »

It is almost exclusively the elderly and Lombardy has nearly 23% over 65.

This makes me fume - they're old, so they don't matter as much, is that it?

The reported death count for today was:

1 person in the 0-49 age bracket;
1 person in the 50-59 age bracket;
14 people in the 60-69 age bracket;
39 people in the 70-79 age bracket;
60 people in the 80-89 age bracket;
18 people over 90.

As for the "dispute" on the reported/unreported cases is, could it be that they've been recorded but not yet disclosed? If you take Italy as an example, the number went up by over 1300 yesterday (or was it Friday? I'm losing count) because they said that some of the cases from a specific area had not been previously reported/disclosed. There's nothing to say that something similar mightn't be happening here.

gabeeg · 08-03-2020 09:36PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Apologies. Although there is a good graph a couple of pages back that shows how it grows. I would be very surprised if just the 3 infections over the weekend. I know they are the official numbers but take with a grain of salt.

Any idea how many tests we've done?

There's a real lack of transparency on this. The NHS in the UK have a running total of tests completed front and centre on their website.
We instead get told things like it's "over 300" a couple of times a week.

spookwoman · 08-03-2020 09:36PM

I dazzler a doctor?

Scuid Mhór · 08-03-2020 09:36PM

RECORD SCRATCH

"Virus, Corona. Yeah, that's me, but my friends call me covid-19. You're probably wondering how I ended up here..."

namloc1980 · 08-03-2020 09:36PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Are flights still leaving Milan and Treviso airport for international destinations?

Yes those airports are still open for business. 2 flights from Milan due into Dublin tonight alone.

odyssey06 · 08-03-2020 09:36PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Are flights still leaving Milan and Treviso airport for international destinations?

Dublin Airport Arrivals:
23:05 Milan BGY FR4845 RyanairON SCHEDULE

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 09:37PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Are flights still leaving Milan and Treviso airport for international destinations?

Certainly from Milan.

https://www.milanomalpensa-airport.com/en/flights/departures

statesaver · 08-03-2020 09:37PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Dublin Airport Arrivals:
23:05 Milan BGY FR4845 RyanairON SCHEDULE

Amazing :rolleyes: Jesus

Cilldara_2000 · 08-03-2020 09:37PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Are flights still leaving Milan and Treviso airport for international destinations?

My buddy who works in Milan airport says 10000000000000000 people have flown out tonight. And they're all en-route to Dublin.

gabeeg · 08-03-2020 09:38PM

Achasanai wrote: »

I have a fair idea actually.

Oh. Apologies.

TheQuietBeatle · 08-03-2020 09:39PM

There's a chance Italians will board flights to escape the mess over there? A bit worrying.

DrumSteve · 08-03-2020 09:39PM

Let's be real.

They need to maintain the slots so the planes will keep flying.

I doubt there are many on board. I hope.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP