Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

ChurchtownMan · 08-03-2020 09:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What Italy appears to demonstrate is that the policy of trying to keep an economy running smoothly and trying to stop this thing at the same time is in some difficulty.

Not fully the case. Both are possible. Europe has the advantage over China of knowing from the beginning that it is the elderly or already sick that are very much the high risk. The yound and healthy, much less, to negligibly so.
This is enable countries to follow a policy of continuing to operate, and avoid a complete economic meltdown which would further exacerbate the situation. They are taking a balanced decision that the elderly and vulnerable will, to some extent, be sacrificed. Countries do not normally have to take these kinds of decision, and to have to do so, is abhorrent to everyone. Those having to make these decisions are in a very unenviable position. The Lombardy model is what is being followed everywhere. In some cases, the outcome may well be better than there. In other regions worse. Overall, it is considered the least worst outcome strategy.

Westernyelp · 08-03-2020 09:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Like do you not understand, if there was three cases in Drogheda on Friday. Why wouldn't you report it yourself? If you got the person who made the claims to contact me, I'd take up the lack of transparency on their on their behalf. I'm willing to go to bat because I generally care about public health. But I can't just say that some poster on boards says their are three hidden cases in Drogheda. More than likely, you've been duped or are lying.

can ye take it outside please?

is_that_so · 08-03-2020 09:24PM

Ariah Happy Rooster wrote: »

Sorry, but I offered one based directy on the highly regarded Dr that discovered Ebola, and his forecasts.

Not on pie-in-the-sky, lucky wish-wish, loopy magic rainbows.

In fact reckon it's dangerous, even misleading to assume this will blow over in a couple of aul weeks, and all will be grand like.

As dangerous as it is to claim we'll have 20,000 deaths in a few months. This is still an opinion, perhaps equally lacking in merit, until we see how the next few weeks unfold.

Achasanai · 08-03-2020 09:25PM

Loughc wrote: »

With only 3 new cases over the weekend that ends the doubling up theory. Seems to be slowing down here which is good. Anyone want to hazard a guess when this completely blows over and barely gets a mention in the press?

2 or 3 weeks Id say.

We must be one of the few countries that have it, and are not experiencing any (noticeable) increase. Just a single case for each of the last two days.

It's not quite Turkey levels with regards to managing the disease (I think they're still at zero) but definitely up there.

ChikiChiki · 08-03-2020 09:25PM

Loughc wrote: »

With only 3 new cases over the weekend that ends the doubling up theory. Seems to be slowing down here which is good. Anyone want to hazard a guess when this completely blows over and barely gets a mention in the press?

2 or 3 weeks Id say.

This troll is a mod?

08-03-2020 09:25PM

givyjoe wrote: »

What relevance would providing your details have to your last post? On one hand you say keep a level head and on the other your post goes off the deepend. The poster has multiple times said he isn't theorising some insidious cover up, just that there were cases that hasn't been announced yet. Not sure how that puts people's lives at risk and seen as the HSE policy is to not provide ANY identifying info about confirmed cases, that claim makes even less sense.

I would be responsible for my.own posts. And if I was full of ****. I'd be struck off.luxury that random people on that internet don't have

tina1040 · 08-03-2020 09:25PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Is she sure it isn't that the out of hours GP opens at 6? lol. That would make a lot more sense.

The out of hours clinic closed at 6 this evening. I phoned the call out service and theres an 8 hour wait. I was asked if he travelled recently or had contact with a confirmed case. How can I know confirmed cases?

hurikane · 08-03-2020 09:26PM

I work for the HSE. I’m a great lad. Everything I say is gospel. Can everyone hang on my every post? I work for the HSE. HSE.

caveat emptor · 08-03-2020 09:26PM

thebaz wrote: »

I feared the worst this morning , but after a day spent outside engaging in real world, wonder why we are being bombarded with the bad new headlines - What about the good news -

The figures from China are very good, I'm sure most people were expecting more Irish infections today -

The sensationilist bad news will just fuel fear and and axiety , and cause panic and hardship for those that need essentials most - be it medical assistance / masks / toilet paper etc..

With 24 hours to 36 hour test time turn around I wasn't. It's the finger in the dam situation.

That poor man in cork with community transmission in a hospital is a worst case scenario for infection control.

Incubation period of between 5-7 and 14 days max. Evidence of test not effective during incubation but evidence of transmission during said period means that some cases will only present later.

Hope I'm wrong. DE Nile isn't just a big river in Egypt.

Guardian busting myths. Masks work. Get one if you can.

Gooey Looey · 08-03-2020 09:27PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Part 5 of this thread... Wow. This must be a record for boards right?

I believe the Brexit thread is on part 12

martingriff · 08-03-2020 09:28PM

US2 wrote: »

I know the person personally. He said there is 3 in there. I'm not mentioning it again now, time will reveal all. My PMs will be open for apologies

Well US2 given that they only say area you could go look 3 more in the east I was right apologize. No body like a arrogant no it all

DrumSteve · 08-03-2020 09:28PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

I believe the Brexit thread is on part 12

The way things are going we will be on part 12 by the end of the week.

STB. · 08-03-2020 09:28PM

Mr.S wrote: »

When all this is done, I really hope researchers look at these series of threads and look into how quickly people became:

- Doomsday preppers
- Medical experts

And most importantly

- Expert statisticians

The 2020 edition of Reeling in the Years is going to be fantastic IMO.

They'll have a special part for the naysayers.

You need to come into the real world. I suggest you start with the experience of one of the surgeons treating people for coronavirus at Chirurgo Generale in Bergamo and the devastating scenario they are dealing with. Now think about your local hospital.

That might give you a wake up call.

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 09:28PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We must be one of the few countries that have it, and are not experiencing any (noticeable) increase. Just a single case for each of the last two days.

It's not quite Turkey levels with regards to managing the disease (I think they're still at zero) but definitely up there.

What other countries did you check as well as Turkey?

GrumPy · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

Just back from the local Aldi (Palmerstown, open until 21:00). It was closed, cornered off with a steel fence and had a big sign in red that said CLOSED - DO NOT PROCEED. :eek:

Loughc · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

This troll is a mod?

Honestly not trolling. I was expecting a massive jump on the numbers surely that’s a good indication we only had an increase of 3.

Akrasia · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because people might not actually present to the HSE because of mistrust.

People are being told to not call their doctor unless they have been in contact with a confirmed case. But they’re also not telling us who the confirmed cases are or where they have been....

I know they’re trying to avoid panic and people flooding the service with nuisance calls, but they’re also not giving people the information they need to recognize if their cold is potentially more then just a cold

caveat emptor · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We must be one of the few countries that have it, and are not experiencing any (noticeable) increase. Just a single case for each of the last two days.

It's not quite Turkey levels with regards to managing the disease (I think they're still at zero) but definitely up there.

I've first hand evidence of HSE refusing to test people because they haven't travelled to an affected country.

The people's republic has had community transmission but this doesn't count as an affected region so no test.

No test = no problem.

Where have we seen this before?

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

is_that_so wrote: »

As dangerous as it is to claim we'll have 20,000 deaths in a few months. This is still an opinion, perhaps equally lacking in merit, until we see how the next few weeks unfold. Nobody is in it'll be grand mode but one should caution against other extreme that too many are already running to.

One forecast comes via an expert in this arena (the Ebola Dr), and holds merit. Other numerous states hold this projection also, and are actively projecting policy phases to match it.

Any opinion of a 2wk blow out, is largely meaningless, even dangerously comical to anyone even slightly informed.

Gods Gift · 08-03-2020 09:29PM

I own the rights to this thread.
For my Netflix series.

EltonJohn69 · 08-03-2020 09:30PM

Be grand

Ray Donovan · 08-03-2020 09:30PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We must be one of the few countries that have it, and are not experiencing any (noticeable) increase. Just a single case for each of the last two days.

Officially!!

Nijmegen · 08-03-2020 09:30PM

Interesting / worrying statistic re hospital beds per 1,000 people. Germany 8, Ireland 2.96, Italy 3.6

Might also help explain why Germany is doing better than Italy on deaths.

https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1236547525529800705?s=21

Ludo · 08-03-2020 09:30PM

US2 wrote: »

US2 wrote: »

Seriously man you're nuts! I first posted about it this morning, an said from the offset it was confirmed positive on friday evening, I haven't changed anything now off you fcuk. Still no answer as to how the cork case reported here almost 2 days ago was only announced tonight..

ah ffs. guess what. I know of three more cases in Cork. They aren't announced yet but wait a few days and I willbe proven right.

p.s. I dont know anything but just using your logic.

Achasanai · 08-03-2020 09:30PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What other countries did you check as well as Turkey?

None, I used Turkey as it's a case where there are no reports of the disease.

Pacing Mule · 08-03-2020 09:31PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Like do you not understand, if there was three cases in Drogheda on Friday. Why wouldn't you report it yourself? If you got the person who made the claims to contact me, I'd take up the lack of transparency on their on their behalf. I'm willing to go to bat because I generally care about public health. But I can't just say that some poster on boards says their are three hidden cases in Drogheda. More than likely, you've been duped or are lying.

Or you're lying Dazzler and are in on the cover up.

I know that sounds confrontational but it's exactly the reverse of how you're being with them.

I'm very very confident they're not lying. As am I very confident you're not in on a cover up etc. They've a friend who might be duping them, I've a contact backing up that exact scenario that might be duping me too. But I'm giving my contact the benefit of a doubt. More than that in fairness.

megabomberman · 08-03-2020 09:31PM

Mr.S wrote: »

When all this is done, I really hope researchers look at these series of threads and look into how quickly people became:

- Doomsday preppers
- Medical experts

And most importantly

- Expert statisticians

The 2020 edition of Reeling in the Years is going to be fantastic IMO.

Ya, it's going to be a hoot alright.

Unearthly · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

Loughc wrote: »

Honestly not trolling. I was expecting a massive jump on the numbers surely that’s a good indication we only had an increase of 3.

Good indication but very limited trend. A few days ago I was celebrating new Italian cases dropping by nearly 300 from the day before but that didn't go well since

Ray Donovan · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

GrumPy wrote: »

Just back from the local Aldi (Palmerstown, open until 21:00). It was closed, cornered off with a steel fence and had a big sign in red that said CLOSED - DO NOT PROCEED. :eek:

Really?

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 09:32PM

Achasanai wrote: »

None, I used Turkey as it's a case where there are no reports of the disease.

The numbers in a lot of other countries are similar to Ireland.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP