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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #5492
    el Fenomeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    France/Ireland game going ahead next weekend in Paris per the Irish Times


  • #5493
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    Go Home Paddy Cat!! wrote: »
    on the RTE 9pm news, it's being said that st patricks day celebrations will go ahead.

    I quote: "People who are unwell are being urged no to go".

    What a joke.
    Jesus, how condescending can they get


  • #5494
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    So this is why I care so much…

    A letter came in the post this afternoon for my son’s next Pulmonary Function Test in early April.

    What a cruel irony. I can’t begin to describe how this makes me feel.

    Will it even happen a month from now…and as for the rest …I’m not going there… It’s too hard...

    We’ve done everything. We’ve prepared. We are the ones who bought masks, hand sanitizer and started stocking up at the end of January and we had to dumb it down for fear of being mocked.

    Here’s our little ‘At Risk’ group; Our 20 year old boy who still believes in Santa, watches Bob the Builder & Postman Pat; who has never known a day without medication; who can’t sleep without his bedtime story; who doesn’t know how to shave but who asked ‘what is the illness daddy? Does it means die?’ No love! It doesn’t mean die, No!

    I cannot figure out when it is time to keep him in. I have a months’ worth of food. There has to be more of us! Waiting…..

    The authorities, ‘the experts’, just kept saying ‘No Need to Panic’ and that is what the people heard and so they remained complacent, cavalier even. Some of us don’t have that luxury.

    Some of us have been on a knife’s edge since last January; watching, waiting, hoping, preparing & stocking. We’ve watched people get on planes, go skiing and fly back from Milan right into our area.

    When we ask ‘Where?!!’ ‘Where is the outbreak, please tell us?!!!’ ‘Please tell us the town/village area…please! because we are scared. ..because it really really matters.

    Amen to that. My 17 year old non verbal. We were supposed to go on hols in April. Big nope to that now.. Sooo sick of the lack of info because. ' economy is king' if we were fricking cattle, ports would be shut


  • #5495
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    blanch152 wrote: »
    That’s hyperbole and hysterics.

    It could well be a researcher back from Italy working in a lab who barely interacts with anyone else.

    He need only Interact with one person.

    But how do you think he gets there..? By being beamed in?! Does he eat lunch on his own? No friends or family?!

    Some people just can't accept reality.


  • #5496
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    who is the woman journalist at the HSE briefings who can't finish a sentence?


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  • #5497
    Go Home Paddy Cat!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Go Home Paddy Cat!!


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Explain? What’s the joke?

    Nice try!!


  • #5498
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...


  • #5499
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    How so?

    They are adamant that there are more than the number reported as confirmed currently being treated within the mid west/western area alone.


  • #5500
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    As someone with a compromised immune system who has to be careful in crowded areas, I am devastated that we are been lied to.

    How do you know you are being lied to. It makes no sense to lie to us.


  • #5501
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Only undergrad. Postgrad classes proceeded as normal.

    Postgraduates would make up a small number of the students .


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  • #5502
    Ohmeha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    If they don't change the testing criteria soon I can envisage one of the tabloids with the headline of someone whose member of family has died while waiting to be tested or not passing the testing criteria. Lets hope it doesn't get to that stage
    I've been saying it all along, until there is WIDESPREAD fatalities due to this virus (which there sadly will be) then the country will wake the F-up and realise the short window of opportunity to minimize deaths was wasted by FG/Varadkar/Harris/Holohan/HSE determining that setting up a table at Dublin Airport to hand out leaflets to travelers in from Northern Italy was the most effective preemptive measure to save lives


  • #5503
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    faceman wrote: »
    I’m watching all this happen from afar in California. Over here people are really freaked. You’d swear WW3 was about to kick off. One good thing has happened though. Retailer started price gauging hand sanitisers etc. A rule was passed quite rapidly to ban price gauging of certain products and there is a method to report retailers who do it in place.

    While this is a nasty flu some of the scaremongering and coverage is crazy, creating a bigger issue and sense of hysteria.

    Suggestions of banning flights from northern Italy are just ridiculous given this is the EU. Free movement of people just means people will reroute which would only serve to potentially make things worse.

    The whole focus on the need for proper personal hygiene is highlighting how poor personal hygiene many people have.
    Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival


  • #5504
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Come here to me, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.


  • #5505
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    froog wrote: »
    the death rate is almost certainly way below 3.4%. i suspect the WHO put out that crude number (which flys in the face of their normal death rate cautious approach) to try and scare some countries into taking this more seriously, namely the US. there are testing problems and shortages in a number of countries and some countries are not testing as much anymore, only symptomatic patients. not to mention large numbers of infected that have very mild symptoms or none at all. one thing that does get reported accurately is deaths for obvious reasons. and so we have a vastly overestimated death rate.

    it would not be unreasonable to estimate current death rate as below 1% if not below 0.5%.
    over what time length are death rates judged over?


  • #5506
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    boege wrote: »
    Folks,
    Living down here in the so called 'West' and have a lot of contacts working in the HSE and they are agog at what has just been presented tonight.

    Does anyone know what time cut off they used for today's numbers?
    Do you mean that there are a lot of new cases that haven't been confirmed and reported yet?


  • #5507
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,710 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


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  • #5508
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Trump signed 8 billion dollar bill into fighting virus and finding a vaccine.

    Il say it on all of your behalf.

    Thank you president Trump
    You don't speak for me


  • #5509
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,370 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Trump signed 8 billion dollar bill into fighting virus and finding a vaccine.

    Il say it on all of your behalf.

    Thank you president Trump

    You don't thank the person putting stitches in your head after they just smashed it in with a brick.


  • #5510
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    babybuilder wrote: »
    Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival

    Taking into account right until now all the infected have been irish passport holders I don’t see how your idea would have helped.


  • #5511
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...


    Usually you can get it at Ailesbury Road or Shrewsbury Road.


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  • #5512
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Come here, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.
    "Community transmission" is a term where they can't trace the history e.g. someone who has been to Italy or China. It means someone is spreading the virus, and they don't know who the source is.

    It is indeed all transmission in the community of course ;)


  • #5513
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Cuckoo7 wrote: »
    Taking into account right until now all the infected have been irish passport holders I don’t see how your idea would have helped.

    Irish passport holders quarantined also.


  • #5514
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ this thread has reached a new low.

    18 confirmed cases and were spying on how many are out
    There are some who are on some sort of count porn. But the majority scratching their heads are citing medical sources that are expressing doubt that 5 is today's real total.

    Myself I got a shock at yesterday's jump and have now reconciled that it's going to up higher and quickly. On what day it's announced isn't vital for me anyway.

    The HSE are obviously not giving specifics of locations but that's coming out anyway so by the following morning, it's known anyway.


  • #5515
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Come here to me, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.

    If I go to Italy and pick up the virus then it's not community transmission. If I go down the local and some infected twat sneezes into my pint then that's community transmission.


  • #5516
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...
    This is different to an approaching storm, the shops will be restocked over the next few days. It's just a pity people hadn't been throwing in one or two items over the past few weeks, rather than shoving everything into their trollies at one go. We need a public education campaign showing people how to stockpile properly in a way which doesn't cause shortages.


  • #5517
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    babybuilder wrote: »
    Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival

    Italy banned flights form China 21 days before their cases took off from 3 to 23. How did that work for them?


  • #5518
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    expectationlost wrote: »
    over what time length are death rates judged over?

    case fatality rates cannot be accurately estimated really until the pandemic is over and all cases are closed. during the pandemic its estimated based a whole range of factors, current data, estimates of unreported cases, data from previous pandemics etc. and always carrys a big asterisk. the WHO simply using deaths / total cases is not the normal way the WHO and other agencies calculate these things, which is why i suspect they put it out to scare countries into action.


  • #5519
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Postgraduates would make up a small number of the students .

    Depending on the school, postgrad numbers can be huge. Anyway, was just clarifying the point that the college has been far from inactive this week


  • #5520
    outsourced_ire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭outsourced_ire


    SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »
    All the Barry's tea was gone in Tesco Ballincollig earlier, believe me we are taking this seriously

    wss56RD

    Thought it was hilarious that the Lyons tea was still left


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  • #5521
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    froog wrote: »
    case fatality rates cannot be accurately estimated really until the pandemic is over and all cases are closed. during the pandemic its estimated based a whole range of factors, current data, estimates of unreported cases, data from previous pandemics etc. and always carrys a big asterisk. the WHO simply using deaths / total cases is not the normal way the WHO and other agencies calculate these things, which is why i suspect they put it out to scare countries into action.


    thats what I was thinking but wouldn't the death rate be higher at the start of new virus, then over the course of even one season of it.


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