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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    darjeeling wrote: »
    Every credible immunologist I've heard says that, yes, you should have immunity for some time. Exactly how long is unclear, but you shouldn't get it twice in one season at least.

    The media is sexing up occasional reports of the odd individual who tested +ve, then -ve, then +ve again, and this is being turned into a widespread fear that no-one will have acquired immunity. But that doesn't agree with the basic immunology of acquired immunity.



    15% reinfection rate in China apparently, can’t remember where i read it, but I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    You do realise that people are catching this for a second time.


    wrong, people are relapsing. The virus stays in the system for a long time and can re-emerge. People tested negative then positive again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Should be grateful she's not in Iran - be getting a flogging

    And rightly so.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    quit speculating & just wait for an announcement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    fr336 wrote: »
    Basically the WHO are out there shouting "FIRE! FIRE!" while our fine leaders, the ones who you can't get rid of normally, have effectively gone into hiding.
    To be fair the WHO were ridiculously calm (or at least suggesting that we should be) about it until well after Italy started going nuts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    seamus wrote: »
    FFS.

    We've spent the last five years explaining blue in the face to rabble rousers that the EU isn't a federal superstate that has stolen the sovereignty of member states and isn't taking over.

    We weren't lying.

    The EU cannot close the borders of its member states.

    Incredible the amount of people who've been complaining that the EU isn't overstepping its powers and seizing executive power in Europe.


    It can close borders, It just needs to declare an emergency first and that allows it to happen, and has done it before during the migrant crisis in 2015.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Been told by a member of staff working in a South Dublin hospital that a person presented to out of hours GP last night with suspected case of Covid-19. Hospital has been subject to deep clean today as a precaution


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree. Most of the Irish media reporting has been factual and restrained. Why would "the media" want to scaremonger? If anything it would be detrimental to their bottom line as it would drive us deeper into recession..

    Congrats for managing to get the words detrimental, bottom line and recession into one sentence. I know you tried to corelate them to Irish media coverage of the Covid virus, but I don't think you quite got there. Try harder.

    How come it is not spreading in South East Asia, Indonesia and India?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I'm wondering
    Why are all the confirmed cases or most of them in hospital?
    What treatment are they getting
    The family of 4 for example
    If it's making people so sick and they're just normal people not with underlying health issues,then we are all Fucked in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    15% reinfection rate in China apparently, can’t remember where i read it, but I did.


    yes, there is article around that mentions the 15% re-infection. I read it yesterday and they were actually talking about relapse and also how tests can also return incorrect results


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It can close borders, It just needs to declare an emergency first and that allows it to happen, and has done it before during the migrant crisis in 2015.
    Still not possible. Didn't happen in 2015. And we're talking about internal borders, not external borders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Been told by a member of staff working in a South Dublin hospital that a person presented to out of hours GP last night with suspected case of Covid-19. Hospital has been subject to deep clean today as a precaution


    Irish people love drama and lime light.They were told a 1000 times not to go to a Doctor, but to call it in, but no, they wanted some drama, their moment of fame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    It can close borders, It just needs to declare an emergency first and that allows it to happen, and has done it before during the migrant crisis in 2015.

    No it didn’t. It’s down to individual states to close any of their borders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Strazdas wrote: »
    For two hours - risk of picking up the corona virus along a two mile route is probably minimal.

    Town will be crowded that day anyway (for the entire day).


    I doubt it not with someone coughing down on you trying to get a view. It won't be crowded anyway with people staying away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    I don't think it will be that high but maybe? I don't know.

    I think if it was a big number instances would have leaked.

    Maybe not. But you took my number so I didn't wanna look like I was copying you 🙈


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,867 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I'm wondering
    Why are all the confirmed cases or most of them in hospital?
    What treatment are they getting
    The family of 4 for example
    If it's making people so sick and they're just normal people not with underlying health issues,then we are all Fucked in my opinion

    I don't think any of the confirmed cases were hospitalised bar the chap in Cork who was in there already. Open to correction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I'm wondering
    Why are all the confirmed cases or most of them in hospital?
    What treatment are they getting
    The family of 4 for example
    If it's making people so sick and they're just normal people not with underlying health issues,then we are all Fucked in my opinion


    One thing for sure, some people get bad symptoms regardless of age. I read reports of people in their 30s getting intensive care for weeks

    If you are young you are more likely to recover, that's all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Their are some strange people on this thread with no regard for human life. More worried about winning an online argument that the prospect of a pandemic unfolding

    You meaning the people furiously pulling at themselves over reports of new cases, yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,667 ✭✭✭touts


    Can't be 30. Cases would have leaked.

    I'm thinking 10 or 11. It will be in double figures given the kite in the Irish Times.

    13 now + 10 = 23

    If it's only 10 or less Leo will be on the news to hail it as a triumph and evidence that his policies are successful because the exponential growth of cases doubling every day as in other countries has been stopped.

    If it is more than 10 Simon Harris will be on the news talking about the challenges faced by the international health system.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We should probably bare in mind when guessing numbers of cases, at some point there will be other figures given too. There is some great humour to keep you going reading this thread, but guessing numbers just doesn't seem necessary at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    From Irish Times
    Another substantial increase in confirmed coronavirus cases is expected on Friday evening, some involving healthcare workers.

    Most of the new cases are linked to existing cases being treated in University Hospital Limerick (UHL) and Cork University Hospital (CUH).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    blueskys wrote: »
    I have a friend in cuba, he said any ships/planes entering there with passengers have a 24hr quarantine before actually going into the country. This has been in place since January. This is why they have 0 cases.

    it's pure luck. people are often asymptomatic as much as two weeks. a 24 hours quarantine is useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    I was just thinking that China's hard line approach to dealing with this will be a waste of time. They may have it under control now but with other countries taking a more lax approach it will just end up back there as bad as ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Been told by a member of staff working in a South Dublin hospital that a person presented to out of hours GP last night with suspected case of Covid-19. Hospital has been subject to deep clean today as a precaution

    Yeah and someone swore blind to me on Saturday that there were two cases in St Vincent's where they work. And you know what, there weren't.

    The NPHET are the ONLY source with validity for this information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    I don't think we have to worry about the Dublin parade going ahead. It will be cancelled without doubt. We are a reactive country, with a reactive government (well, if you consider us to have a government currently) and "only" 13 cases is not enough to trigger a cancellation in their eyes.

    Next Friday's announcement won't be too far off of the 750-1000 range (an absolutely non-statistical based guess by myself, assuming a 75% increase in confirmed cases each night using my logic of "other countries at early stages aren't far off doubling each day").

    A number in that range would be too big to ignore, and unfortunately we'll have multiple deaths confirmed by that stage. Even once we start getting into the low hundreds confirmed, the pressure will be too much and the parade will be cancelled. I'm absolutely sure of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Leo et al doubling down on their laissez-faire liberal agenda. Confirms my initial thoughts some weeks ago that they've decided, like their European counterparts, that it's more cost effective and efficient to let any epidemic run its course. I don't think they are too concerned about the most vulnerable and ill. They've demonstrated this re health long before this.

    Hasn't been too much out of the EU regime either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    I don't think any of the confirmed cases were hospitalised bar the chap in Cork who was in there already. Open to correction.

    Are the 4 not in a hospital in limerick and all but essential visits cancelled? Thought that's what I heard on 6 one a few mins sgo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I'm wondering
    Why are all the confirmed cases or most of them in hospital?
    What treatment are they getting
    The family of 4 for example
    If it's making people so sick and they're just normal people not with underlying health issues,then we are all Fucked in my opinion

    Part of there containment plan.
    At the moment it's easier to keep people in hospital while the numbers are low.
    At the moment most would be getting an IV and oxygen to keep up the oxygen levels in the blood


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    it seems the irish government's policy is "we can't control this thing, so let's try and keep panic down and keep revenue coming in"


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