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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #4622
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    The Italian's figures are cause for some slight optimism


  • #4623
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Further to Leo's disasterous decision.
    Should he have cancelled it, would people be up in arms saying he overreacted?
    i doubt it. Id say many would defend and welcome it. You know being proactive and displaying leadership. Triats you would expect.

    So hes obviously been persuaded by other concerns; monetary concerns, notably hoteliers and the vintners.


  • #4624
    BLIZZARD7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    The Italian's figures are cause for some slight optimism

    How so?


  • #4625
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Varadkar has been horrendous through all of this, zero leadership or reassurance whatsoever. Only offering lies to prevent panic and an almost sinister lack of compassion to avoid taking any sort of containment measures which could affect business.


  • #4626
    Corbin Gifted Scab
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Corbin Gifted Scab


    the butcher wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1235968083057168384

    Blood will be on his hands.

    Classic Irish mentality "Ah sure it's grand, we'll have one for the road."


    I have yet to see a single sliver of evidence that this country is proactively doing anything to combat this.


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  • #4627
    Pseudonym121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    That's slightly higher than yesterday. Could it be plateauing there ?

    No, you can expect absolute and relative increases to continue increasing for a while yet.


  • #4628
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    If Leo has decided that it's business as usual.

    Then he needs to get his arsé on the 6 o'clock news and explain exactly how and why that decision has been made.

    They can wheel out the HSE afterwards.

    Time for actual leadership from the leader of the country.


  • #4629
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    solidasarock wrote: »
    Why does this government value human life so little?

    This thread is like a comments section under a news article on Facebook.


  • #4630
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    How so?

    because they are almost half of yesterday's


  • #4631
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    The Italian's figures are cause for some slight optimism

    They are higher than yesterday but not that much - flattening? .

    That's the only vague optimistic note.

    Otherwise pretty disasterous.


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  • #4632
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Get lost
    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    you understand it's people you are talking about? it's not a video game
    WTF mate?

    He should have said hop it :D


  • #4633
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,868 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    The Italian's figures are cause for some slight optimism

    Only if it continues to trend downward tomorrow.


  • #4634
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    How so?

    They didn't double.


  • #4635
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    because they are almost half of yesterday's

    The figures are an increase on yesterday.


  • #4636
    Acosta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Acosta


    flynnlives wrote: »
    Further to Leo's disasterous decision.
    Should he have cancelled it, would people be up in arms saying he overreacted?
    i doubt it. Id say many would defend and welcome it. You know being proactive and displaying leadership. Triats you would expect.

    So hes obviously been persuaded by other concerns; monetary concerns, notably hoteliers and the vintners.

    We don't have leaders, just the highest paid caretakers in the world.

    Above all else, Paddy must get paid.


  • #4637
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Wouldn't it be great if our national holiday was more than just another excuse for greed and tax revenue? Our health is our wealth and maybe putting the health of Irish people in front of any other vested interest, for one day, in one year, might be the good political and ethical decision to make?


  • #4638
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    Actually they’ll be out into those positions. What is going to happen is mass infection of health care workers - eg I fully expect to be infected - and the returnees will be slotted in to replace staff who are self-isolating and sick.
    .

    60 in one go was rough today.


  • #4639
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/this-is-surreal-italian-towns-struggle-under-coronavirus-lockdown
    The heavily pregnant wife of “patient 1”, the 38-year-old man who was Italy’s first confirmed locally transmitted case, was dismissed from hospital on Thursday; her husband, a marathon runner and amateur footballer, remains in intensive care.

    what the actual ****? that 38 year old fit lad is still in ICU .... jesus h fu*cking christ on a bike ...


  • #4640
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Only if it continues to trend downward tomorrow.

    Downward?

    They have gone up!?


  • #4641
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Beasty wrote: »
    Posted somewhere in thread II, iPads are where it's at for all the techie youngsters around. Should slide nicely between the cheeks.....

    Lovely for spreading things too.


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  • #4642
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Also add

    NEW: Varadkar says Ireland may ask retired health workers to return to service in the weeks ahead if the need arises

    A group that would be in the higher risk bracket.....

    Great, we're about to start calling up the Fukushima Fifty, but the parade's still grand.


  • #4643
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭daheff


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    That's a 4.25% death rate...

    nope. thats new cases vs closed cases. anything between 0 and 100% of those new cases could result in death.


    italy as of yesterdays data had 4747 diagnosed, 414 cured and 148 dead. thats 148/414 =35.75% mortality rate.


  • #4644
    Tomrota
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Tomrota


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    They didn't double.

    It could simply be that the scale of Italian health officials to test for COVID-19 has reached capacity, perhaps?


  • #4645
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be great if our national holiday was more than just another excuse for greed and tax revenue? Our health is our wealth and maybe putting the health of Irish people in front of any other vested interest, for one day, in one year, might be the good political and ethical decision to make?


    If me and you and others concluded this then so did Leo, yet he choose the other course.

    Says it all really.


  • #4646
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I think I'd rather go under reactor 4 of Chernobly and roll about in the corioum of the Elephants foot than go to bleedin Italy !!


  • #4647
    BLIZZARD7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    because they are almost half of yesterday's

    What are you talking about? They have increased and the deaths are up +25% on yesterday.


  • #4648
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,430 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I agree with the acting Taoiseach fully. Even the public health professionals on TV every night were saying setting off an economic bomb would hurt more people indirectly than the virus itself.

    Yes I understand about vulnerable groups, senior citizens and those with underlying conditions, but its far better that those people limit their own interaction with general population than the whole Country stop normal life. For St Patricks week each event needs to be taken on its merits and considered prudent or not, not a blanket ban.


  • #4649
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/this-is-surreal-italian-towns-struggle-under-coronavirus-lockdown



    what the actual ****? that 38 year old fit lad is still in ICU .... jesus h fu*cking christ on a bike ...

    Not just that, the ICU stays can be as much 20 - 28 days. Dr Mike Ryan was warning the world the other day, implying these lengthy stays weren't complete outliers.


  • #4650
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    They often have excellent hospitals, but you need money to access them. Same in US

    Yes, people most can’t access the healthcare


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  • #4651
    EICVD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    There’s a load of Italians on my bus home from the airport, that’s it I’m f*****d!


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