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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #3782
    megabomberman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭megabomberman


    JDD wrote: »
    Okay, so two things.

    I was thinking this morning that my whole family had this woejus cough over Christmas/start of January. Loads of people in work had it too. Two colleagues were told they had viral bronchitis, and had to take three weeks off work, or the doctor warned them it could turn into pneumonia. Having had it, it was really difficult to shake, and I deffo got a temperature on and off for a few days. My husband had to go and steroids.

    Is there any chance that could have been the coronavirus? I'm guessing, unless we had a spike in pneumonia deaths, it couldn't possibly have been?

    Secondly, I think we're all focusing on "oh Trinity has it" and "oh CUH is on lockdown" or whatever. At this stage, honestly we're way past containment. What I want to focus on now is how to prevent my elderly parents from getting it. Apart for the normal advice i.e. wash hands and avoid crowds, what advice would you be giving them right now? Should I be advising them to stay at home and get the groceries delivered? Stay away from cafe's/shops? They mind my kids on a Friday - should I be looking for alternative arrangements, just for a few weeks? I want to try to get ahead of this.

    Definitely not, remember Wuhan only started identifying cases in early January, there is no possible way it was in the general Irish population around Christmas or we'd have about 200k cases by now.


  • #3783
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Pneumonia leaves permanent scars to the lungs, it's nothing new
    and unfortunately Covid gives pneumonia

    in 13.8% of cases it can.


  • #3784
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Malaysia reports 28 new cases, brings total to 83

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    No obvious source for the vast majority


  • #3785
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I HATE this thread.

    F5


  • #3786
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Boggles wrote: »
    Wonder will they close the schools....the week after?

    If they are still (playing) at containment, that's way too late! Door and horse bolted and all that!

    I think the virus is probably already rampant. People just don't know it/realise it (yet)!


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  • #3787
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    celt262 wrote: »
    Do the same with the visitors that will make up there mind for them if they want to travel or not.
    You can't enforce that. Better to ground the flights than ask people to quarantine, especially visitors who are over to enjoy themselves.
    For Irish returning home, perhaps via other avenues, ask them to quarantine. Of course they could pass any infection into other countries they pass through which is one of the complications here. So France, for example, might not take kindly to everyone from Italy going to their airports to fly home to other European countries.


  • #3788
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,002 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    If they are still (playing) at containment, that's way too late! Door and horse bolted and all that!

    I think the virus is probably already rampant. People just don't know it/realise it (yet)!

    In Craughwell they closed on 6th class. Not any other class.


  • #3789
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    I think you wasting ur time, some people are just too thick and stubborn.

    No point in seriously damaging our economy for what will only be very marginal gains in safety. Life is risk.


  • #3790
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Hearing people were exposed at a recording of the Blindboy podcast in Clare last weekend. A dreadfully unfunny evening all round for the audience.
    Maybe blindboy knew about this thing for years that would explain why he was going around with a spar bag over his head!


  • #3791
    LaFuton
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    fits wrote: »
    I HATE this thread.

    F5

    most addictive thread ever!


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  • #3792
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    If they are still (playing) at containment, that's way too late! Door and horse bolted and all that!

    I think the virus is probably already rampant. People just don't know it/realise it (yet)!

    Closing the schools is to prevent spread, phase 2, delay.

    Rampant would be 1000+ of cases, we are nowhere near that yet I imagine.


  • #3793
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Pneumonia leaves permanent scars to the lungs, it's nothing new
    and unfortunately Covid gives pneumonia

    First of all, not all pneumonia leaves permanent scarring.

    Secondly, COVID-19 infection does not necessarily mean you are going to get viral pneumonia.


  • #3794
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    It's crazy to think that this day last week we had no confirmed cases. It going to get out of control because of HSE incompetence and relaxed attitude.


  • #3795
    amber2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭amber2


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    If they are still (playing) at containment, that's way too late! Door and horse bolted and all that!

    I think the virus is probably already rampant. People just don't know it/realise it (yet)!

    Agreed think with CUH A&E department compromised over a period of days Cork should be a red zone at this stage, no matter what the figures are now they are only going to go one way & quickly.


  • #3796
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Have Aer Lingus not cancelled all Flights to/from Northern Italy ?
    I know that Ryanair fly too but it does reduce the numbers.

    So, now we have UHL, CUH, Waterford and Navan on lockdown ?

    Was in Tesco this morning after the school run. It was like the few days before Christmas. Very full trolleys, long lines, but no shortages of anything bar anti-bacterial stuff. In fact it looked like they had massive deliveries this morning.
    Aerlingus have cancelled some flights only to Italy.
    I have flights to Verona booked in April not cancelled yet but be shocked if they aren't (not that I would go anyway)


  • #3797
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    ixoy wrote: »
    You can't enforce that. Better to ground the flights than ask people to quarantine, especially visitors who are over to enjoy themselves.
    For Irish returning home, perhaps via other avenues, ask them to quarantine. Of course they could pass any infection into other countries they pass through which is one of the complications here. So France, for example, might not take kindly to everyone from Italy going to their airports to fly home to other European countries.


    But you would gladly accept flights from France despite the outbreak in North/East France?


  • #3798
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    I might not have a job in a few weeks if things get worse. I recently changed jobs and the company is expecting a downturn. I'm only new in the job so we all know how things go, last in, first out, unless I don't get the virus and actually able to work.


  • #3799
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    First of all, not all pneumonia leaves permanent scarring.

    Secondly, COVID-19 infection does not necessarily mean you are going to get viral pneumonia.
    Agreed.

    I had atypical viral pneumonia when I was 19 no permanent scarring on lungs after.

    What percentage are likely to get pneumonia?


  • #3800
    bunderoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    Dont know if it has been mentioned yet, but one suspected case in company in galway and all staff directed to be sent home.
    Also one in ClareGalway.
    My company now taking action. Work from home for 2 weeks by the looks of it...


  • #3801
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    gmisk wrote: »
    Agreed.

    I had atypical viral pneumonia when I was 19 no permanent scarring on lungs after.

    What percentage are likely to get pneumonia?

    13.8% (+4.7% who go on to be critical)


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  • #3802
    [Deleted User]
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Closing the schools is to prevent spread, phase 2, delay.

    Rampant would be 1000+ of cases, we are nowhere near that yet I imagine.

    Are we in phase 2 (delay) yet?


  • #3803
    silver2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    You are understanding it less.

    I will ask for the umpteenth time - if the flights bringing Italian rugby fans to a game that doesn't exist were cancelled, would the same fans hop on a train in Italy all the way to Germany, France etc and then hop on a plane, to travel to a game that doesn't exist?

    The same goes for St Patricks day by the way.

    We are and I include you in this encouraging and facilitating easy and cheap travel from highly infected areas.

    Easy and cheap are the optimal words here. The cheaper and easier something is, the more people use it. You know this right?

    People travel from Italy every day of the year.
    It is cheap and easy to get a train to numerous airports, so stopping flights just causes more chaos as you are pushing people into other airports and flights from non affect areas and that gives you zero control.

    Several Irish companies have operation in Italy, several Italian companies have operations here. There are thousands of Irish people living there.

    Its a hop skip jump to get to an alternative low cost airport.

    In parts of northern Italy the easiest airport for you to travel from is in another country. Innsbruck airport is less than 30 minutes from the Italian border and has direct flights to Ireland.

    Nice airport is similar distance - maybe even shorter.

    Ljubijana airport is just over an hour to the Italian border.

    I'm an hour from Dublin airport!


  • #3804
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    Positive to hear on the news that the Nursing homes are restricting visitor access.
    I know my OH works in a nursing home setting and has advised very strict staff H&S protocols introduced - ie not sanitising hands when entering leaving rooms is a disciplinary offence. We really need to insulate these settings

    Pretty concerning how quick this has gotten into our hospitals in the south west of the country (UHL/UHC).


  • #3805
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Are we in phase 2 (delay) yet?

    No we're still in phase 1 - denial


  • #3806
    notuslimited
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭notuslimited


    Removalist wrote: »
    My other half works in Dublin airport, aerlingus flights from Venice and Milan that would normally be full are arriving with 20-30 people on board. Same with the Frankfurt flights.

    64 pax on last night’s Aer Lingus flight from Frankfurt.


  • #3807
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Are we in phase 2 (delay) yet?

    No.

    Soon though I imagine.


  • #3808
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Talking to people in retail around the country this morning. Shops are much busier than usual, rice, pasta etc running low in some places.

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  • #3809
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Can't cope with cakes being left uncovered all over the place in small shops. It's rotten

    Yeah, that is revolting in general.


  • #3810
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    There was a marathon runner in Italy in intensive car. Just because you are healthy doesn't guarantee anything.

    You are less likely to die or suffer severely if you are young. Doesn't mean that nobody young or healthy will suffer.

    You can be one of the very small number. I wouldn't be too complacent

    The guy in Italy had very clear symptoms but decided to run a marathon while not being able to and as a result the virus hit him hard. If he had sense and stayed at home and went to a doctor instead of the stupid 'nothing will stop me' attitude then he most likely would have made a full and quick recovery.


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  • #3811
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/LMFMRADIO/status/1235895950788497408

    I'm thinking another case?

    Maybe it is not another case? maybe just a precaution?


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