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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #3692
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    I think the Government need to get a new Health Minister, just lie and say Simon Harris is ill and can no longer perform the job and have someone with a semblance of credibility take over the job. Harris is clearly way in over his head and while I understand that he has no real governance over the health system, having him on tv/radio/SM talking and spluttering about it gives zero credibility to the health service.

    I have a seven year old nephew that would do a better job. I'm sure he's available.

    Or find a passing donkey


  • #3693
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,841 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    What do ye mean?

    Cancel the game , but still allow the 6,000 fans from effected region to come anyway. Whats the point in cancelling the game , when Temple bar instead will be wher the masses will congregate now.
    Nothing against Italians, but if we are serious in trying to contain spread, flights should be cancelled.


  • #3694
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,997 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Craughwell case is hilarious sign of the incompetence. 6th class stay home but anyone else is cool to come to school.


  • #3695
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    megabomberman wrote: »
    The only proactive measure the officials have taken so far is to cancel a rugby game that is scheduled for this weekend.

    It seems odd in hindsight how early and proactive Simon Harris was with making that cancellation. Almost as if they regarded that as a mistake and changed to a more laissez faire attitude after.


  • #3696
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    No doubt posted already, but I see on BNO number of worldwide cases is now at 100,001 (with 3,405 deaths).

    Easy to do the maths on that! Death rate of 3.4%.


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  • #3697
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    thebaz wrote: »
    They might as well have played the game now, given it was highly unlikely the 15 players would be infected , much more likely to be the 6,000 fans , that are coming anyway - bureacracy at its worst in my mind.

    Yes its a shambles. Laughable if it wasn't so serious.


  • #3698
    notuslimited
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭notuslimited


    Beasty wrote: »
    I came through Terminal 2 arrivals around 9.30 - no hint of any press, or indeed any warnings about coronavirus. There was something up warning about African Swine Fever though:rolleyes:

    Last night I arrived from Frankfurt into T2 and the cabin crew announced that if anybody has concerns about the Coronavirus to contact the HSE staff in the baggage hall. 3 HSE staff were manning the desk in the arrivals hall.


  • #3699
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Irish on the run in India after being brought to hospital over possible Corona virus infection

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/odisha-cuttack-coronavirus-patient-scb-hospital-1653024-2020-03-06

    The Sun claims there are two people involved.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5173333/coronavirus-irish-suspected-coronavirus-hospital-isolation/amp/

    Sounds like a bad Carry On plot tbh ...


  • #3700
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    Echo Live.ie 06.03.2020

    Patient spent days in emergency department before diagnosis

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Coronavirus-latest-Deadly-virus-in-Cork-Patient-spent-days-in-emergency-department-before-diagnosis--0608fdbd-7e91-4440-bccf-f182dd8b1d6a-ds

    A PATIENT had spent a number of days in the emergency department before the diagnosis was made.
    The Cork man, aged in his 40s, became the first in the country to catch the infection through community transmission.

    The patient had been taken to CUH by ambulance, complaining of pains in his head. He spent time in A&E before being discharged. He was readmitted in recent days and tested for the virus.

    Unlike previous cases in Ireland, the man, aged in his 40s, had not travelled to northern Italy.

    The patient was being cared for in an Intensive Care Unit last night.

    (Hope the man is okay...seems they wasted days)


  • #3701
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    How we really going to debate how healthy an athlete can be compared to the average joe?

    I agree, and hence made the point to not think of them being a normal healthy person.


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  • #3702
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »
    How was the plane journey?anyone cleaning seat trays or wiping down seats etc?any paranoid people on board?


    I've done this long before Corona, they are filthy dirty


  • #3703
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Alun wrote: »
    I've just come back from shopping in Lidl, and there was a young lad, 9 or 10, coughing all over the shop, in front of some of the fresh produce, with no handkerchief or even putting his hand over his mouth. Father seemingly oblivious.

    When asked, he said, don't worry, it's just a cough :mad:

    This isn't new.

    My local post office is in a shop, and right beside the queue, the shop keeps it's uncovered cakes, muffins, etc.

    I routinely see kids not just coughing but actually picking them up, and parents barely putting effort into telling them not too.


  • #3704
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Don't see anything relating to that.

    Link?

    No link. Someone I know who needs to be informed of this was given the update.

    Rang the hospital myself and they confirmed that it's closed and no one entering except next of kin only and critically ill.


  • #3705
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    thebaz wrote: »
    Cancel the game , but still allow the 6,000 fans from effected region to come anyway. Whats the point in cancelling the game , when Temple bar instead will be wher the masses will congregate now.
    Nothing against Italians, but if we are serious in trying to contain spread, flights should be cancelled.


    Yeah but what do you mean by bureacracy at it's worst?


  • #3706
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    gozunda wrote: »
    Irish on the run in India after been put in isolation over Corona virus

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/odisha-cuttack-coronavirus-patient-scb-hospital-1653024-2020-03-06

    The Sun claims there are two people.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5173333/coronavirus-irish-suspected-coronavirus-hospital-isolation/amp/

    Sounds like s bad Carry On plot tbh ...

    Hopefully the Indian police find them. Muppets


  • #3707
    megabomberman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭megabomberman


    Downlinz wrote: »
    It seems odd in hindsight how early and proactive Simon Harris was with making that cancellation. Almost as if they regarded that as a mistake and changed to a more laissez faire attitude after.

    And all they did was brow beat the IRFU to cancel it, Western governments are completely paralysed in the face of this thing. We've committed a measly 45 million to tackling this thing.


  • #3708
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    I think the Government need to get a new Health Minister, just lie and say Simon Harris is ill and can no longer perform the job and have someone with a semblance of credibility take over the job. Harris is clearly way in over his head and while I understand that he has no real governance over the health system, having him on tv/radio/SM talking and spluttering about it gives zero credibility to the health service.

    Excellent suggestion. We had a GE because he would have lost the VoC. Who has the proven competence in the caretaker govt? Accountants would say Donohue but he would give the impression of measuring needed resources in a Scrooge like manner. It does need change.


  • #3709
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    deisedevil wrote: »
    No link. Someone I know who needs to be informed of this was given the update.

    Rang the hospital myself and they confirmed that it's closed and no one entering except next of kin only and critically ill.

    But that would mean Waterford, Limerick and Cork are on "lock down"? :confused:


    And there are posters here who we are remotely equipped to deal with this???? :pac:


  • #3710
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I agree, and hence made the point to not think of them being a normal healthy person.


    Athlete = healthier than average person


    no rocket science


  • #3711
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    This isn't new.

    My local post office is in a shop, and right beside the queue, the shop keeps it's uncovered cakes, muffins, etc.

    I routinely see kids not just coughing but actually picking them up, and parents barely putting effort into telling them not too.

    Can't cope with cakes being left uncovered all over the place in small shops. It's rotten


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  • #3712
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Beasty wrote: »
    Did think about taking one but was in a rush to get somewhere where I had 1.5m of space around me.....

    Was coming through on Tuesday also but did not see it then.

    I've also seen the African Swine Flue notices, they have been there for a while


  • #3713
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,841 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Yeah but what do you mean by bureacracy at it's worst?

    I've explained 2 times - Why cancel the rugby game , when the 6,000 fans from effected region are coming anyway - it was highly unlikely the 15 - 30 players themselves were the problem.


  • #3714
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    pwurple wrote: »
    Not everything is a stick to beat the government with either. We're not doing too badly with 13 cases, compared with other countries anyway.

    Iceland is an example. Far smaller population (~360k people), more remote, they're up at 34 cases.

    Switzerland, 8 million. 120 cases, and one death.

    Norway, 5 million, pretty remote... 91 cases.

    Those figures mean nothing with out the numbers of those tested in each country to compare. I'd be willing to bet that each of those countries have tested hundreds if not thousands more than we have here so the numbers are not comparable.


  • #3715
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    What are they doing at the airports/customs places where they need you to provide your fingerprints? Surely ripe for transmission..


  • #3716
    tromtipp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    Two general comments - I haven't read every post and may just be echoing other people.

    Someone posted a link to Chinese findings that X-rays show the virus causes permanent irreversible damage to lungs. Scary, but otoh my father caught TB in overcrowded 1940s Dublin and spent three years in Crooksling sanatorium as a young man (before antibiotics). He suffered permanent irreversible damage to his lungs.

    He still lived (active and healthy until near the end) to the age of 89 (older hospital doctors regarded the crackling noises his breathing produced as a useful teaching aid for the young).

    So don't despair.

    Also a prediction - if the government, such as it is, get their act together and introduce serious containment measures, they'll release them after 8.00 on Saturday, to slow down the media response.


  • #3717
    Pretzill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    The worst thing that could have happened with Covid_19 here is to let it start in a hospital setting (outside isolation wards) Now staff will be affected, sick patients and visitors and it's the best breeding ground to spread across the community. Why hadn't we isolation in place from the airport - (Did I dream about people being bussed in Britain to the Wirral in the early days?) - I know containment is difficult but it's the most controllable phase of any pandemic and Ireland, it's (leaders) and the HSE have dropped the ball here.


  • #3718
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Athlete = healthier than average person


    no rocket science

    Fitter does not equal healthier.

    From joint wear to physical injury to inflammatory wear all are part and parcel of any athletic endeavour and all are an impact on health.


  • #3719
    boars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭boars


    https://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/03/06/4186816-our-ladys-hospital-bans-visitors/

    Navan hospital bans all visitors


  • #3720
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    thebaz wrote: »
    I've explained 2 times - Why cancel the rugby game , when the 6,000 fans from effected region are coming anyway - it was highly unlikely the players themselves were the problem.


    Yeah but what does bureacracy have to do with either of those decisions?



    You know there are 60 million folk in italy, mostly unaffected


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  • #3721
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    thebaz wrote: »
    I've explained 2 times - Why cancel the rugby game , when the 6,000 fans from effected region are coming anyway - it was highly unlikely the players themselves were the problem.

    The problem isn’t the cancellation, it’s the lack of follow up to actively discourage travel from Northern Italy and enforce self isolation on all coming home from that area.


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