Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

OK I'm due to work today with someone who was at that Blindboy gig thing. Is there any solid links anywhere about possible exposure at it?

No it's not made official. Anyone who were near the people have been already contacted.

flynnlives wrote: »

listen the facts speak for themselves. Taiwan were proactive. We arent.

The facts are facts except in cases where the facts contradict the facts.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

My point is some posters seem to believe that the crisis in Italy and the insanity in Iran couldn't happen here.

It can.

I'm not optimistic at all on that front to be perfectly honest but they want to defend the HSE and how this country is run.

I would be considered in the "at risk" category but not as majorly so as some others. I am of an age where a lot of those I'm close to would be considered highly at risk. I suspect some will not make it.

I know of very few people not taking this seriously. Every time I check into this thread I mostly read posters who are taking it seriously (admittedly there are a few minimisers and even one outright denier). But what I don't find helpful are the few who are shouting "PANIC, PANDEMIC, SARS/HIV, 200,000 thousand dead, everyone is useless - don't believe them."

I find some posters are the equivalent of the guy who rushes into the crowded cinema which is being orderly evacuated and shouts "FIRE,RUN NOW, BUT ITS TOO LATE - 20% OF YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY, THE MANAGEMENT ARE ALL INCOMPETENT B*&^TARDS, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU, ONLY I DO" !

University of Limerick has sent email to students.

THE University of Limerick will ‘likely’ restrict numbers on the campus, due to the coronavirus, at some point in the near future, students have been informed.

“The objective of UL is to safeguard its staff, students and the general public. Therefore we will take the appropriate steps to prevent the spreading of the virus...The situation is being monitored daily by Executive Management and we will communicate as soon as possible on relevant aspects of our response.”

Duke of Url wrote: »

Are all confirmed cases in Ireland in being Quarantined in Hospital?

Yes it was in the Irish examiner article this morning. They've said everyone else can feck off and stay at home there not letting any more into hospital.

The article has since been removed I linked and quoted to in an earlier post.
Hospitals don't want to see you, https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/covid-19-patients-in-emergency-depts-like-bringing-drum-of-petrol-to-fire-says-consultant-986160.html

caveat emptor wrote: »

Stop misinforming people. Yes there are more cured at this stage then there are in intensive care. However there are approx 2K in hospital now. In Lombardia there are 244 people in intensive care right now. There are 364 recovering at home.

That's 2K in hospital 364 at home. Wonder how many are mild.

We can all use percentages / comparisons to make something sound different.
Here's a good one.

Of the 1777 people who have the disease currently in Lombary 79% are in hospital

Don't take my word for it. Get out the all calculator.




http://www.protezionecivile.gov.it/documents/20182/1221364/Dati+Riepilogo+Nazionale+5marzo2020/a529828b-0bf0-4d5b-ad66-4669d3635a24

How am I misinforming people?

I literally just put down what I seen on the totals. You even agreed in your 2nd sentence.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

My point is some posters seem to believe that the crisis in Italy and the insanity in Iran couldn't happen here.

It can.

I'm not optimistic at all on that front to be perfectly honest but they want to defend the HSE and how this country is run.

It is not just the competence of a particular health service that is an issue.

You can have the best health service in the world, but if people don't bother to follow instructions, continue to go on ski trips, fail to wash their hands, post repeated panicky advice on social media, keep going to work when sick etc., then the best health service in the world won't save you.

iguana wrote: »

He's my age but had underlying health issues.

The directive for any body coming in now goes to HDU it's where they have isolation. Its standard procedure dont read too much into it

iguana wrote: »

I have the post-apocolyptic book Children of the Dust running through my head for the last few days. The family were well protected in their house eating tinned food, but all but one of the kids drank water from a tub and radioactive dust came down the chimney and contaminated it. So don't think I'm not a little concerned for me too. The only thing I'm 100% sure I'm safe on are my testicles.:pac:

Apparently coronavirus damages the testicles.

https://www.worldofbuzz.com/researchers-coronavirus-may-attack-testicular-tissue-leave-men-infertile-after-infection/

caveat emptor wrote: »

The maths of an epidemic aren't comparable to road death statistics.
Image in being drunk was contagious and had a reproduction number of (R0) 2 to 3.

In a very short period of time road deaths would shoot through the roof as the ratio of drunk to non drunk increased.

Take it further and imagine we could just close the road with the drunk town and stop anyone who appears drunk.

We do that to reduce road deaths anyway

No the Maths of road deaths are far, far worse. And they continue long after the epidemic passes.

In China there are over 1000 road deaths per week. There have been 3000 coronavirus deaths over approx 3 months. So even in ground zero of the crisis roughly one quarter as many people were killed by the virus as were killed by cars.

The epidemic has now largely passed in China with fewer and fewer cases each day. Other countries have advantages China didn't in greater advanced knowledge of the virus, more knowledge of what treatments help, knowing to isolate people and the importance of hygiene steps etc.

People point out that China took some extreme measures but only after the disease was rampant for 1+ months without any awareness whatsoever, and even after that period there was no awareness of what treatments were of benefit and what weren't. The steps China took beyond that are still open to everyone if things do start to get worse, but there's no evidence that that is happening yet.

The odds of Ireland being hit half as bad as China are slim as we have advanced warning and half the population density, but even if we are, then proportional to our population, that will mean approx 10 deaths in total - equivalent to the number of road deaths in an average month.

My post was in response to someone who said this thread should be reserved for posting whenever there were new cases and people trying to provide perspective should be shut down.

But if you take any bad thing, whether it's coronavirus, suicide, road deaths, seasonal flu, heart disease etc, and you start obsessively following every single incidence of that thing occurring anywhere on the entire planet, you will start to get a wildly unrealistic perception of how likely that thing is to directly impact you or those around you and it's simply not healthy.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Banning flights from Italy makes no sense anyway - they fly from anywhere else in Europe or travel to the UK.

You'd have to ban all European flights to achieve a result.

That's effective what they did internally in China.

YFlyer wrote: »

Even RTE had a short clip early last week that the person suspected of having the coronavirus to self isolate themselves from the rest of the household.

All the students in the schools that have the coronavirus should be self isolated and not mixing with others.

I agree with you. My post was a post was replying to someone what to do. He ranted our depending who you listen to our incompetent HSE (which they are) or an overseas health area and then had a rant so I asked what are others saying or doing. As far as I see it's the same as the HSE