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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #2402
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Interesting that the vast majority of cases are in 2 or 3 areas really.

    That's what happens if it goes undetected for a few weeks.


  • #2403
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Louche Lad wrote: »
    It's spreading in New South Wales where temperatures are in the 20s. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/05/coronavirus-darwin-tourist-becomes-first-in-nt-to-test-positive-as-australian-cases-rise-to-52

    That post is untrue.

    The narrative is that is does not spread in warm weather and the summer is going to save us all.

    This is 2020 the truth most support the narrative.

    Keep inconvenient facts in the shadows.


  • #2404
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    Thoughts about them in what sense?

    About how realistic the figure is.

    Could 20pc of people who test positive need treatment in hospital?


  • #2405
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    It's already in Africa.

    Yes, but we have heard of very, very few cases. I'm hoping this is due to it not spreading, and not simply due to lack of reporting.


  • #2406
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    gmisk wrote: »
    The public sector is open to all the great utopia that it is....lol
    I make significantly less in public sector than I would in private sector but hey I made my choice.

    No, we all can't join the public service. That's not how things work.


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  • #2407
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is that 302 cases in the west of Germany?

    Yes


  • #2408
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    This is like a bad dream.


  • #2409
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Imagine if Covid-19 was a plague type virus with a 80% death rate, scary thought if it ever happens....


  • #2410
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Big business is the soul of the west , workers are insects


  • #2411
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    stockshares wrote: »
    Apologies if this was posted already.

    It's an open letter from Dr Paul O Brien to to Dr.Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer at Irish Department of Health and Paul Reid, Director General of Irish Health Executive Service (HSE) questioning how the outbreak has been handled relative to best practice.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-dr-tony-holohan-cmo-department-health-paul-o-brien/?published=t

    The author is not a medical doctor.


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  • #2412
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Did the Chinese Ambassador really say that the local councils should go over the government's head and enact their containment measures as they arise?!

    Let's keep watching the rebels. The only named county (except Limerick whose hospital has admitted it's basically shutting up shop too for no apparent reason).


  • #2413
    Pseudonym121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I don't think that the 20% would all need oxygen. People in hospital with a viral illness also need to be kept rehydrated with IV fluids to stop organ failure.

    Agreed. I didn’t say they would all need oxygen. I just gave two examples of non-ventilator treatment that hospitalisation could be needed for to help someone understand that being hospitalised didn’t necessarily mean being ventilated.

    I’m becoming wary of going into detail for fear of being nit-picked to death by people who aren’t interested in the broader reality so am trying to limit the detail and keep the level of information basic to make that a little less likely.

    Nuanced points really aren’t welcome here.


  • #2414
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Maximus Decimus Covidius commander of the armies of the north......


  • #2415
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    fr336 wrote: »
    This is like a bad dream.
    aka the Rapture, a Tribulation if you will.


  • #2416
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    fritzelly wrote: »
    There is zero evidence there is any difference in the strains (the difference between the two is minute) and now you are talking about different levels of care needed for the different strains

    You want to be taken seriously??? FFS
    He's correct, in that the L strain is more easily transmitted, so it would be harder to contain in clinical settings (as we're seeing here).


  • #2417
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    With all of the virus excitement going on I'm just wondering have we forgotten that we don't have a government ? Or does that matter anymore. Seems to have disappeared

    The Irish public decided they wanted a hung parliament again, so that's what we're going to have for the next while.


  • #2418
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,379 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Tordelback wrote: »
    Which if your figure is correct is twice the mortality of flu, which almost exclusively kills the elderly and otherwise vulnerable. So the consolation in your post is that if infected you are young and fit you are only twice as likely to die of Covid-19 as an octogenarian diabetic is to die of seasonal flu. I'll pass, thanks.
    Pass on what?
    There are tonnes of stats out there.
    It's pretty much all guesstimates
    That figure is from below
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/


  • #2419
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Yes

    Not 1 death in Germany is there ?


  • #2420
    [Deleted User]
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    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    I was reading a study today in which they isolated it from a “cured” patients cerebrospinal fluid so that speaks to both the risk of encephalitis ( which he had ) and it finding reservoirs within “cured individuals” who could then either relapse or potentially spread it again.

    Too early to tell but finding it in the CSF is both interesting and a bit frightening.

    It doesn't act as a reservoir in CSF. It has just spread there. There's nothing to suggest that there is a latent reservoir in patients with CSF. The medications used would need to be changed so that it has better ability to cross the blood brain barrier. Unless, there is another paper that says so.

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/05/c_138846529.htm

    I'm not trying to nitpick, just trying to keep myself updated.


  • #2421
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    AmberGold wrote: »
    Just throwing this out there as maybe some unfortunate might be in the same position.

    One of the lads in work (UK based) went to northern Italy on a skiing holiday mid Feb, came back early last week. He, his wife and daughter all very sick with a flu like illness, very productive cough and high temperature.

    Went into self isolation and reported themselves to the NHS, had blood test earlier this week and results yesterday, all negative for COVID.

    An odd coincidence, we all had him down as having it.
    May need further testing


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  • #2422
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status/1235680608552013825


  • #2423
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    No cases in the midlands yet, no money to travel to Italy ?


  • #2424
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Imagine if Covid-19 was a plague type virus with a 80% death rate, scary thought if it ever happens....

    Simply wouldn't spread with that rate, so would become isolated and localised, like the aul ebola, (or worse).
    If people drop cold within 12-24hrs, they ain't got time to bus around, and chillax on planes.


  • #2425
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Not 1 death in Germany is there ?

    No deaths recorded so far.


  • #2426
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    As a doctor who obviously knew about the viral outbreak, he should know that viruses take time to develop and he felt sick and continued on going into work dealing with sick patients.

    We're ****ed if the HSE are continuing their bull**** and telling people they're grand unless they show symptoms.

    You should give him an email and let him know, quickly!


  • #2427
    jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭jarvis


    I dread to think what covid-20 will be like. I didn’t see the first 18 and I’m not enjoying watching 19.
    It’s like when I watched fast and furious 7 without watching the first 6. Can’t get into it at all.


  • #2428
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Imagine if Covid-19 was a plague type virus with a 80% death rate, scary thought if it ever happens....

    Imagine if it wasn't.


  • #2429
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    fr336 wrote: »
    This is like a bad dream.

    We haven't seen anything like this before, but it does happen every few decades or so.

    I know it's concerning, but this is not the plague.

    The vast majority of people will be fine.
    Stay informed and things will be OK.

    My mum rang me tonight after the news today, she had cancelled a trip to Kerry, because of it.

    I had to reassure her.


  • #2430
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Imagine if Covid-19 was a plague type virus with a 80% death rate, scary thought if it ever happens....

    You'd still have people going on about being 'alarmist' and 'hysterical', still have governments more interested in finances than people, and still have vital school based skiing trips, so we'd be pretty screwed if that came up.

    MERS had that type of fatality rate but it was apparently containable.


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  • #2431
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The Irish public decided they wanted a hung parliament again, so that's what we're going to have for the next while.

    The government or lack thereof doesn't matter whatsoever.
    The permanent government run the show (DOH and HSE).
    Simon is still available for soundites and inept management.


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