Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

"It's the economy stupid".
They're doing everything in their power to reduce disruption for as long as possible and keep panic down.
Preventing the spread of the virus is less important to them. Theyre not willing to take draconian actions like grounding flights, so are focusing on managing it rather than preventing it.

Exactly putting aside the more important human cost, they are kicking the can down the road on the economic and fiscal costs which is what Irish governments have been exemplary at over the decades

bennyl10 wrote: »

Nurses are well isolated? Well isolated from a virus?
Teachers that deal with children all day, are well isolated?

Don’t turn this into a public v private thing because there is zero point or actual fact to back up anything.
There is as many public sector people who have means to be well protected as there are private.

And there aren’t as many private sector people in direct like of fire from this

Yeah the vast majority of public servants aren’t nurses or other frontline workers. But here we have another example of govt immediately looking after them without having any specific measures in place for private sector workers, only vague promises. Fact is that today a person in public sector can isolate themselves without risk to their income, while a private sector worker will have to take the risk because they can’t afford 6 days waiting to get the scratch.

It’s not so much private vs public as government being able to get themselves together quickly for everyone.

I cant understand why Harris is still in situ, actually i can and it is because our leader hasnt a backbone and the opposition couldnt organise a piss up at a brewery. If there wont be a government in place for possibly a few months, surely now is the time to replace him with soneone that is competent before he ****s up this aswell. We need someone with the cohonas to drive this and not someone who is never slow for a soundbite but lacks everywhere else

odyssey06 wrote: »

Italy just did deem most of those things unsafe.
And we have to start somewhere.

Why start with the parade if we're in such peril? The thing lasts for about two hours.

omerin wrote: »

I cant understand why Harris is still in situ, actually i can and it is because our leader hasnt a backbone and the opposition couldnt organise a piss up at a brewery. If there wont be a government in place for possibly a few months, surely now is the time to replace him with soneone that is competent before he ****s up this aswell. We need someone with the cohonas to drive this and not someone who is never slow for a soundbite but lacks everywhere else

Simon Harris is only the person put out in front of the cameras,he is not the person making the decisions

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

It started out at 15% and has fallen hugely to about 1-2% due to a combination of

A. Actually diagnosing more people with it now where those people were undiagnosed before this inflating the mortality rate.

B. They have learned what works in treatment. You have to remember this was a brand new illness no-one has ever seen before a few months ago.

But, bottom line the death rate isn’t the 15% some scaremongers are quoting and it won’t even be the 3.4% that WHO has recently stated - this is due to some statistical issues I won’t waste time going into here.

Bottom line 1 - 2 % of all infected individuals so long as the ventilators have capacity. It’ll increase if and when they are fully occupied obviously.

Do many end up in hospital on ventilators as opposed to fighting it at home yourself do you know ?

gabeeg wrote: »

I think the US are in the worst shape of all western countries.

The orange one was out today telling people to work through it on his hunch the death stats arent really that bad....

gabeeg wrote: »

I think the US are in the worst shape of all western countries.

Zero sick pay for the majority of workers and insane medical bills will mean many people there will just carry on even with symptoms.

ussjtrunks wrote: »

In general for a healthy adult how bad has it been?

Are there any cases of it effecting people without underling illness badly?

In general it seems to have a fatality rate of 2%. Apparently for younger/ not at risk people it is only 0.2%

But if containment totally fails, and 20% of the world's population is infected and current figures are right, that would be 28 million dead in about a year, right? (That's about how many the Spanish flu killed, incidentally)

Is there any news on patient 1 the woman from NIRL, how is she now? A progress update might calm fears, then again if she's not the best it will only add to peoples worries.

Ninthlife wrote: »

And involves couple of hundred thousand people all in one small enough area

Yes, but the logical conclusion is you then have to ban all large public gatherings before and after March 17th. How can Croke Park, the Aviva or the 3 Arena be safe if the parade is "unsafe".

RandomName2 wrote: »

Swine flu hysteria? It killed half a million people you know. I am not joking.

Given that it infected nearly 20% of the world's population, that's not an incredibly bad fatality rate.

I had not realized that containment of swine flu simply failed. Attitudes like yours need to be curtailed or ignored. All pandemics start with a single individual. The longer it takes for people to take it seriously the more difficult it is to do anything about it.

It looks likely that it is too late in relation to covid-19. Hopefully it doesn't do well in warm weather. Given the lack of southern hemisphere and african cases currently, that may be true.

It's spreading in New South Wales where temperatures are in the 20s. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/05/coronavirus-darwin-tourist-becomes-first-in-nt-to-test-positive-as-australian-cases-rise-to-52