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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,215 ✭✭✭bottlebrush


    Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Jaysus you really can see the money grabbing selfish nature that we worshiped so much pre 2008 coming to the fore here over the aul parade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

    What a twat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

    Sickening (what he is saying)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

    But we ll lose our culture!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,215 ✭✭✭bottlebrush


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

    Eoghans job will be redundant if people stop travelling. Hes a travel writer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Swine flu only infected somewhere between 10 and 20% of the world population.

    They’re estimating COVID19 will infect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population. This is from WHO.

    Really 10 to 20% is only about a quarter of the prevalence of infection vs what we are looking at now. Sure you can quibble the details of the definition but swine flu as a pandemic isn’t at all equivalent to what we are facing now.

    I remember the swine flu hysteria well. The predictions were far more dire than what actually transpired. Does that not tell you something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Time for (all) governments to seriously consider rolling out UBI for a 3mth period, with almost immediate effect.

    What is UBI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?
    Yes. Race meetings also.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 christy G


    Take some honey and lemon in hot water , and few hot whiskeys and wash hands be grand


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nice one Eoghan. Economic life more important than actual lives. Snout in the trough dictating as usual with these people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I don't suppose there's any figures out of China on general mortality rates in the last few months?

    That might be the stupidest question I've ever asked

    It started out at 15% and has fallen hugely to about 1-2% due to a combination of

    A. Actually diagnosing more people with it now where those people were undiagnosed before this inflating the mortality rate.

    B. They have learned what works in treatment. You have to remember this was a brand new illness no-one has ever seen before a few months ago.

    But, bottom line the death rate isn’t the 15% some scaremongers are quoting and it won’t even be the 3.4% that WHO has recently stated - this is due to some statistical issues I won’t waste time going into here.

    Bottom line 1 - 2 % of all infected individuals so long as the ventilators have capacity. It’ll increase if and when they are fully occupied obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    The public service looked after but government can’t say how regular joes will be looked after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

    Yes and that was an animal disease. Priorities like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Irish hotels. Ya get a week in Spain or Italy for a few nites in a Dublin hotel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

    Yes, 2001.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yes. People dont seem to get that the death rate depends on medical treatment.

    Beyond a certain number of cases the rate will spike.
    It is not a fixed constant.

    Yes, I and others have been saying this all along.

    The health system is almost like a chemical engineering process; inputs, outputs, pressure points, etc.

    The knock on effects of this also apply to economics, supply chain, social reactions, politics...

    I'm reminded of the introduction to the nuclear war movie Threads.

    Big test for our globalised world.

    And this is not the pandemic we have been fearing. This is not bird flu H5N1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Very balanced approach from Buswells manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Yes and that was an animal disease. Priorities like.

    Yeah it was the agri business at risk, all the stops pulled out for it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Guy on prime time sounds like Father Stone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    I remember the swine flu hysteria well. The predictions were far more dire than what actually transpired. Does that not tell you something?

    Yes the Swine Flu was not as serious as some feared.

    This thread is about Covid 19 look at the deaths in Italy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    owlbethere wrote: »
    What is UBI

    Universal Basic Income.

    Essentially everyone gets a set amount of cash each week, no matter if they work (able to, or getting varied hours etc), or not.

    It's a fixed (universal) amount, no other welfare is paid out, just this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭boege


    wadacrack wrote: »
    his is what's after happening!!

    **To put it into context. We are now where Italy was two weeks ago**

    An Irish doctor diagnosed with the coronavirus unwittingly worked a shift at University Hospital Limerick after not displaying symptoms of the disease.

    It is understood that the man worked at the hospital last Wednesday after returning home from a family holiday in northern Italy, but neither he nor his employers knew he had been infected.

    He is a member of a family of four patients from Co Clare - which includes two males and two females - who all tested positive for Covid-19 on Wednesday night.

    It is the believed that the doctor checked with public health authorities after arriving home and was given the green light to work in the emergency department at UHL last Wednesday, February 26.

    It is believed that the doctor worked a full-shift on the day, coming into contact with large volumes of patients, their relatives, and staff.The shift began Wednesday afternoon and finished later that night.

    There were 36 patients languishing on trolleys in the Limerick emergency department plus a further 29 patients on trolleys on wards on the same day.

    UHL was the most overcrowded hospital in the country on February 26th, when the doctor showed up for work with a total of 65 patients on trolleys.

    On Wednesday night when the four cases were confirmed there were 55 patients on trolleys in total.

    Immediately proper protocols were implemented, and a section of the ED was closed, and patients moved out of the unit to allow for it to be cleaned.

    Ambulances were informed not to transport patients to UHL’s 24-hour emergency department while the newly opened accident and emergency unit was being cleaned.

    Sources said they were concerned for their health and for their families health.
    They also expressed fear that they would be sacked for disclosing information to the media.“He was told he was okay to work by public health authorities.”

    Staff have been “sent off to be swabbed as they were working the same day as (the doctor)”.

    “It’s a chaotic situation because he came home and spoke to public health, and then he came in to the hospital and did his shift last Wednesday.

    "His wife and daughter then became symptomatic two days later.”The four patents confirmed as having Covid-19 have been placed in “isolation bays” which are “completely self-contained.”

    Management have informed staff that proper protocols are in place and they have begun efforts to contain the virus and to trace those who may have been in contact with the doctor who was working in the hospital last Wednesday.

    “This all kicked off last night because they closed down part of the Emergency Department and told ambulance to go ‘off-call’. Staff were sent home that were working on the same day as he was.

    “The situation is evolving. There are two males and two females. The hospital is trying to track down those who may have been in contact with the doctor.

    ”Staff are “worried” but were told that “if they take the right precautions and measures they should be absolutely fine.

    “It’s a week ago that he was in the emergency department. The hospital is now conducting traceability and containment protocols.”"Staff are looking for answers and reassurance and clarity.”Staff treating the four patients with the virus are “gowned up, wearing gloves, masks and eye goggles”.

    Another source said: “As I understand it at the moment, they are conducting traceability and protocols in relation to who may or who may not have come into contact with patients.”

    It dates back to last Wednesday when an individual presented in the ED. There are real concerns now about this spreading fast.

    The source said management at the hospital have been “interacting with staff and setting out protocols.

    “There are concerns in relation to the containment of the virus. Any frontline staff would be first to be exposed.”

    What happens next is the “sixty-four million dollar question”, and largely depends on how well the virus is contained in the hospital, they said.

    “To put it into context. We are now where Italy was two weeks ago.”

    Who do we blame for this ? The Government for not implementing tuff rules or do you blame the Doctor??

    He may also have lectured at a local third level institution. UL made an announcement today about contingency planning. The note mentioned that partial or full closure plans being prepared. May hear more tomorrow.

    It is looking increasingly likely that we may have 'walking cases' (brought from outside) all over the country. Given that many trips to Italy appear to have been around the mid term break. This weekend would mark the 14 day isolation window for that time window so the next few days will tell a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I wonder where to two cases in the West was, possibly the same Clare area or Galway.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Nijmegen wrote:
    The public service looked after but government can’t say how regular joes will be looked after.

    Probably with public sector workers in quarantine processing forms for regular joes.

    It's either that or UBI for everyone and I know which one is easier to implement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Nice one Eoghan. Economic life more important than actual lives. Snout in the trough dictating as usual with these people.

    The spice must flow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    But, bottom line the death rate isn’t the 15% some scaremongers are quoting and it won’t even be the 3.4% that WHO has recently stated - this is due to some statistical issues I won’t waste time going into here.


    Glad we have someone more qualified on boards in these fields than those amateurs in the WHO


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    owlbethere wrote: »
    What is UBI

    Universal basic income


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

    Postponed I think.

    Anyway even a postponement would be good now, and might make the Festival going forward take place on the JUNE Bank holiday weekend. Longer days and warmer all round. What's not to like?

    Failte Ireland need to take the lead here. They are a good entity AFAIS re the Wild Atlantic Way and other initiatives. We shall see.


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