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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    johnmcdon wrote: »
    Reported from Department of Health today"HSE Specialist in Public Healthcare Medicine Dr Sarah Doyle told a press conference in Dublin that healthcare professionals will now be asked not to return to work for 14 days after travelling to such regions, depending on where they have been.

    Dr Doyle said this was because health professionals interact with vulnerable patients and it was important to minimise risks.

    Almost all have been associated with travel from northern Italy, which has been the hardest hit area in Europe."
    Talk about after the horse has bolted.
    The Doctor who has it in Clare worked in A&E after coming back and held his full clinics...pure daft.
    Schools are still going to Italy on skiing holidays.
    We should close all the schools now and return on 18th March. Ban all travel to Northern Italy.
    Anyone who returns should self isolate.
    Government has to get its act together...

    The same thing happened in America from a care worker in a nursing home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    are we still in a containment phase?

    No change in approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Macho Bol*X. The percentage you quote is only those tested, tip of the iceberg. If you have elderly parents or a condition yourself you'd be concerned.

    We could quarantine citizens returning from hotspots at the airport. If you ban flights to these areas there'll be no one to return.

    Oh throw snowflake in for a few likes.

    What's to stop the guy in italy driving into Germany and flying home from there.

    Those tested? We dont have the figures for tests done? The figure we have is the confirmed cases.
    Stop scaring people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Listened to David McWilliams podcast and he had Professor Luke O'Neill on it. He explained things clear and concise.

    I am not even remotely worried anymore now.

    I recommend people in here do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    yes the entertainment phase is over !

    i thought we were still in the containment phase


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    The government and HSE refusing to tell us where the confirmed cases are will cause more cases, it's going to get much worse and the HSE don't have a clue how to handle it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Sawduck wrote: »
    The government and HSE refusing to tell us where the confirmed cases are will cause more cases, it's going to get much worse and the HSE don't have a clue how to handle it

    Why? Are you going to avoid everywhere that a case is announced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    I know people are worried but putting the boot into the Irish government and health service in particular may be anger just for the sake of it. Which major countries aren't having cases? Daily the rates are going up everywhere. It's not the Irish government's fault for this, I lay the blame squarely at China's door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,108 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Chong wrote: »
    Question.. At what point are we no longer in a containment phase?

    When 51% of the population have it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Off the top of my head,

    Roughly how many tests can you do?

    Tests will be done in accordance with procedure, in that only close contacts of confirmed cases are currently being monitored. The number tested is to be announced weekly as per previous information.

    So they haven’t a clue.
    It’s pretty obvious that the more testing you do the more cases you will find.

    IE.
    It’s not true to say that there is one person infected in cork, Because that person didn’t travel to an infected region means that they got it from someone that has yet gone undetected, but is carrying and transmuting the virus.

    So we can say with a clear degree of certainty that there are two cases in Cork, one detected and one not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Sharon is under time constraints on the news, youd think theyd make an exception for an epidemic.
    What the hell was that about?!
    Instead they jump to FF and FG pussyfooting around each other....ffs who gives a toss with all that is going on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Sorry it is CUH. Same thing and I think you know what I meant. But anyway, no worries. For me anyway.

    No worries here either, was just intrigued as to why you were latching onto the whole “Cork being named” thing...anyway sure no hard feelings :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo



    But Mary L is in self isolation so she knows the score, and fair dues to her for putting her family first. We would all do this.

    So who was that I just saw on the news talking the Dail today? So much for self-isolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Have my first chest infection in years. Accompanied by a sore throat. Talk about bad timing. Would call in sick tomorrow but have essential work to do. Probably just a cold but would make you think seeing as I work in a multinational with workers from all over the World.

    Are you that important, really, that you’ll risk your health and someone else’s, and someone else they’ll meet beyond that who may not be in fit fiddle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    Why? Are you going to avoid everywhere that a case is announced?

    if you know your neighbor has it you might act differently to avoid it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Where ya get the figure of 2k from?

    That’s just looking at the worst case scenario and then reducing mortality rates based on assuming social isolation and medical care reduces risk as well as the arrival of a vaccine (under compassionate use grounds) before the winter ( which is when mortality should really spike ).

    Background. Consultant in the HSE and lectured in epidemiology and medical statistics in University. I certainly don’t know everything but I’m not pulling numbers out of my ass, they’re considered based on decades working in hospitals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    banie01 wrote: »
    The fact that patient in CUH was a patient earlier in the week and previously discharged should be quite worrying given the incubation period.

    The patient could have acquired the illness as a patient.
    He could have acquired it in the wider community.

    However given that the HSE have said all personnel involved in the patient's care will be self isolating now for 14 days, with the commensurate loss of their labour!

    The HSE really need to consider implementation of barrier nursing protocols.
    Whatever else happens, our medical and care staff need to be given the highest level of protection possible.

    If that means being treated by staff in appropriate PPE, then get it in place.

    Dr Honohan on RTÉ at the moment really is a Golem, their is no cogent argument for the stance being taken.

    This means there will be less staff working increasing the workload for the rest of their colleagues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Sharon taking her interview style from Sky's Kay Burley. Ask a question, then interrupt your guest when he's in full flow. Keep your mouth shut when the expert is volunteering information. It's not like he'll be giving interviews left right and centre..

    Of course we are stuck for time, need to spend some time talking about the non existent government or the royals visit to Galway.... priorities indeed...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    People can't afford to be off sick. They'll still commute and go to work etc.

    As this is a notifiable disease could people be made legally liable if they knowingly endanger people by going to work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    fr336 wrote: »
    I know people are worried but putting the boot into the Irish government and health service in particular may be anger just for the sake of it. Which major countries aren't having cases? Daily the rates are going up everywhere. It's not the Irish government's fault for this, I lay the blame squarely at China's door.

    Because we could have prepared better instead of being in denial for a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Where's Graces7? Hope she's ok on the island

    Hopefully she is safer then most of us where she is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Are you that important, really, that you’ll risk your health and someone else’s, and someone else they’ll meet beyond that who may not be in fit fiddle?

    I agree with this !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Can someone tell me the issue with naming the doctor? I would have thought it's well known at this stage, as I said earlier he posted a photo on twitter of himself skiing in Italy on February 18th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    leahyl wrote: »
    Well then I would imagine they mentioned Cork since the case is in a hospital....

    They said cork because they had too,
    Couldnt announce a case and dont know where the person actually got it from and just pin it to east or west ireland cork wont be the worst city either with an outbreak, its crawling around dublin a long time id say, higher tourism numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    ITman88 wrote: »
    I think this is the most accurate post on this.
    Look at the testing rate in Japan or Korea I forget which, massive testing rate has uncovered a multitude of cases, and the mortality rate of which is 0.5%.
    It is going to be detrimental to the vulnerable, because many people have no idea they have it

    Exactly. I bet if they somehow had a super fast, free mobile test and tested every single person coming out of tube stations in London, there would be thousands of cases found. There is simply no way on earth that a city of almost 10 million people, with multiple airports with flights landing constantly from all over the world, including virus hotspots in Asia and Europe, is not itself a hotspot.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have my first chest infection in years. Accompanied by a sore throat. Talk about bad timing. Would call in sick tomorrow but have essential work to do. Probably just a cold but would make you think seeing as I work in a multinational with workers from all over the World.


    Essential work >>> Health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    gmisk wrote: »
    What the hell was that about?!
    Instead they jump to FF and FG pussyfooting around each other....ffs who gives a toss with all that is going on!

    RTE is just a state apparatus , this would not fly in other countries bar maybe a communist state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    No darcc, just that some posts are based in an understanding of epidemiology and virology. Come back in a year and compare my numbers to the numbers then.

    I’ve knowledge in those areas and I’m finding your posts alarmist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    fritzelly wrote: »
    When 51% of the population have it

    50% plus 1 person.


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