Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) Read warnings in OP

FishOnABike · 05-03-2020 07:42PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Some cases in UK are being treated at home.

In what sense are they being treated though, as there are no drugs to treat this. Can they have oxygen supplied at home?

I guess they could have a portable supplementary oxygen supply like people with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease - basically a small oxygen bottle on a trolley and a tube looping around the head and supplementing the air supply via short nasal tubes.

I suppose there could be issues with supply and the added fire risk of having a significant additional number of oxygen bottles in the community with people who are not used to the extra care that might be needed around them.

Kermit.de.frog · 05-03-2020 07:42PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Unfortunately we live in such a system were people are squeezed and can't afford unpaid leave

Did it ever strike anyone that there are many companies who can't afford unpaid leave either?

kalkat2002 · 05-03-2020 07:42PM

Main difference with italy is the health system
If you complaining about italy I cant wait for hse...or you still thinking only 6 cases in Roi??

DOCARCH · 05-03-2020 07:42PM

fin12 wrote: »

In England they say they will pay from day one....

That's because they have a government! We don't....just a caretaker one.

In the interests of the people, SF, FF and FG would want to get their ****/act together pretty quickly and form a national unity government!

ThePopehimself · 05-03-2020 07:43PM

Beasty wrote: »

I'm currently in Glasgow. If there's panic buying of haggis and/or sporrans back in Ireland let me know and I'll stock up....

We're good for Haggis but very low on Scotch...
... extremely happy to help you get it to the needy. I'm good that way.

TheyDidWhat?! · 05-03-2020 07:43PM

The escalation in Italy is incredible.

I was in Treviso and Venice at the end of January. Glad I went when I did and not a few weeks later.

Kermit.de.frog · 05-03-2020 07:43PM

TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »

I was in Treviso and Venice at the end of January.

Any sniffles?

Gynoid · 05-03-2020 07:44PM

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339351990_Decoding_evolution_and_transmissions_of_novel_pneumonia_coronavirus_SARS-CoV-2_using_the_whole_genomic_data

This is research of the virus genome by a Chinese scientist called Yu Wenbin. It is not clear in the abstract from above link but according to a simplifying summary in below link- possible propaganda, but who knows - the genome can be divided into 5 groups, A,B,C,D,E according to age of evolution and so far China has only as far back as group C. Other places, like US, have all 5. The implication is the virus did not originate in Wuhan or Hubei, but was amplified there by the market.

Anyways could be a load of propaganda but still...at this point who knows for sure. Posted as matter of possible interest...

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181159.shtml?fbclid=IwAR0qffOrDJQH6CxFSaMvhiuNPsobDYfPPpldDuFC4Dq0po5esScULMcMJM0#.Xl6FQ6Ubm35.facebook

05-03-2020 07:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah because it's not confirmed. They wont report it until it is. Would be poor journalism if they did as national broadcaster

It is confirmed. All it takes is the DOH to issue a press release but they are going with this “we’ll tell you at 8pm and not before” route.

Tootsie_1 · 05-03-2020 07:45PM

Nothing has been even mentioned by the News, HSE , anyone about the amount of Italians that would of booked flights and accommodation for this weekend for the Rugby ... and are all probably still coming over.

DOCARCH · 05-03-2020 07:45PM

TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »

I was in Treviso and Venice at the end of January. Glad I went when I did and not a few weeks later.

hmmmm....what did you say your Eircode was?

Drumpot · 05-03-2020 07:45PM

TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »

The escalation in Italy is incredible.

I was in Treviso and Venice at the end of January. Glad I went when I did and not a few weeks later.

spookwoman · 05-03-2020 07:45PM

Great if it is true in UHC! Hope no one from waterford and its catchment has a heart attack because that's where they will be shipped to.

AlekSmart · 05-03-2020 07:45PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's because they have a government! We don't....just a caretaker one.

In the interests of the people, SF, FF and FG would want to get their ****/act together pretty quickly and form a national unity government!

Strangely enuf,their appears to be a certain lack of enthusiasm being shown by the Entire Political 'family' about taking the reins of power...all gone very quiet.....none of them appear to relish dealing with King Corona......:p

stephenjmcd · 05-03-2020 07:46PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

It is confirmed. All it takes is the DOH to issue a press release but they are going with this “we’ll tell you at 8pm and not before” route.

The point is about rte not reporting on it.

It's not confirmed officially therefore not reported, pretty simple.

They arent going to put rumours on national tv really now are they ?

Pretzill · 05-03-2020 07:46PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Have you a backup gennie for the freezer? Thats the only thing that puts me off stocking up freezers, high on energy consumption. We ve been stung a few times with prolonged power cuts

No and we haven't had a prolonged power cut in years (it takes more than 24 hours to defrost) and it's only a small chest freezer and A rated - the food is on constant rotation so its not like anything goes to waste.

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2020 07:46PM

The NHS is asking people returning from Italy to self isolate if they have symptoms of the corona virus. I mean with all due respect to my fellow country men and women but unless you have a very good reason to be going to Italy and you go then you'd want your head examined at this point.

TheyDidWhat?! · 05-03-2020 07:46PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Any sniffles?

Weirdly in the last 2 days yes! More of a cold in fairness. Lots of sneezing etc!

05-03-2020 07:47PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

I would say by the end of the year mos will see massive differences in daily life - no structure, no supplies, no police, public services, by another year a kind of mad max scenario with decimated populations.

Im serious - if you think differently let me ask you, when do you think the cases growth will at least flatten out ?

This rate is absolutely nuts ... beyond exponential...

For god sake... calm the hell down! The death rate is really not that high.

Tacitus Kilgore · 05-03-2020 07:47PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Did it ever strike anyone that there are many companies who can't afford unpaid leave either?

Whoa slow down there egghead, leave the sensible posting at the door. Civilisation is ending here ffs.

Duke of Url · 05-03-2020 07:48PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's because they have a government! We don't....just a caretaker one.

In the interests of the people, SF, FF and FG would want to get their ****/act together pretty quickly and form a national unity government!

Not a hope. Who would want to be in Government during a ****storm.

The leave it to FG

Clarence Boddiker · 05-03-2020 07:48PM

banie01 wrote: »

There won't be until the HSE conference at the earliest.

The Gov/HSE have a very dated view of how information dissemination works in the modern world.

They are very much focused on controlling the narrative and release of information.
The simple fact is that within minutes of a school sharing detail on contact tracing it is shared on social media.

The flow of information from the HSE is very reminiscent of the good old days of Potemkin villages.

The numbers and locations are not only being shared as and when on Social Media but are driving a sense of distrust in the current government handling strategy.

At present the Government are only digging themselves a hole.
We need to be able to trust the information shared, rather than constantly question what lies behind it.

Incredibly poor media strategy.

It illustrates the total lack of respect the establishment have for the people, they don't believe we can be trusted to know the truth, its better that we're kept in the dark for our own sakes. Look at the difference between Ireland and the somewhat authoritarian Singapore when it comes to the dissemination of information to the public.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 05-03-2020 07:48PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

FFS, way to use the virus to bash the public sector.

I know yeah, the people who are still going to work to babysit your kids and make sure the population don't all die aren't given the luxury of working remotely but you begrudge them sick pay when they fall ill, from their predominantly public-facing jobs.

I suppose you want them to take the stiff upper lip approach of just going into work when they're sick? Great shout.

Funsterdelux · 05-03-2020 07:48PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Unfortunately we live in such a system were people are squeezed and can't afford unpaid leave

Oh I was annoyed the way RTE put the two segments together, like theres a silver lining to the virus outbreak

fritzelly · 05-03-2020 07:48PM

Gynoid wrote: »

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339351990_Decoding_evolution_and_transmissions_of_novel_pneumonia_coronavirus_SARS-CoV-2_using_the_whole_genomic_data

This is research of the virus genome by a Chinese scientist called Yu Wenbin. It is not clear in the abstract from above link but according to a simplifying summary in below link- possible propaganda, but who knows - the genome can be divided into 5 groups, A,B,C,D,E according to age of evolution and so far China has only as far back as group C. Other places, like US, have all 5. The implication is the virus did not originate in Wuhan or Hubei, but was amplified there by the market.

Anyways could be a load of propaganda but still...at this point who knows for sure. Posted as matter of possible interest...

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181159.shtml?fbclid=IwAR0qffOrDJQH6CxFSaMvhiuNPsobDYfPPpldDuFC4Dq0po5esScULMcMJM0#.Xl6FQ6Ubm35.facebook

So it really is all Italy's fault - CCP doing everything they can to place blame elsewhere

titan18 · 05-03-2020 07:49PM

harr wrote:

Our child has four different hospital appointments next week .. for each one we will be sitting in packed waiting room for hours full of children who would have poor immune systems. Rang today to see if anything has changed or if they were going to reschedule. The answer I got was â€œ sure why would we be rescheduling appointments â€œ she nearly laughed at me for asking. Is anyone in different HSE departments talking to each other.

They dont talk to each other normally so now wouldn't be an exception. I have appointments every few months in CUH and appointments only go through that area rather than any central area.

otnomart · 05-03-2020 07:49PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

Main difference with italy is the health system

What is needed is intensive care beds.

study from 2012: The variability of critical care bed numbers in Europe

https://link.springer.com/article/10...134-012-2627-8

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Phibsboro · 05-03-2020 07:51PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Only a matter of time before Italy's health service breaks - I reckon they'll have 50K cases by the end of the month - and what is happening in ITaly is a blueprint for the rest of europe.

This is a civilisation ender.

Believe it or not, they will actually be at 5 million cases by March 31st, based on a doubling rate of 2.4. If they manage to doubling out to 3 days they will have 1.5 million cases by March 31st. That is the reality Europe is facing unless there are draconian measures introduced to try and get back to a containment phase.

Hector Savage · 05-03-2020 07:51PM

Gynoid wrote: »

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339351990_Decoding_evolution_and_transmissions_of_novel_pneumonia_coronavirus_SARS-CoV-2_using_the_whole_genomic_data

This is research of the virus genome by a Chinese scientist called Yu Wenbin. It is not clear in the abstract from above link but according to a simplifying summary in below link- possible propaganda, but who knows - the genome can be divided into 5 groups, A,B,C,D,E according to age of evolution and so far China has only as far back as group C. Other places, like US, have all 5. The implication is the virus did not originate in Wuhan or Hubei, but was amplified there by the market.

Anyways could be a load of propaganda but still...at this point who knows for sure. Posted as matter of possible interest...

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181159.shtml?fbclid=IwAR0qffOrDJQH6CxFSaMvhiuNPsobDYfPPpldDuFC4Dq0po5esScULMcMJM0#.Xl6FQ6Ubm35.facebook

I'd believe it , the only possible explanation for such a fast spread in ITaly is that it was there for months, I read someplace else they think it's been in Italy since October.

Fr_Dougal · 05-03-2020 07:51PM

I’m going to go with 15.

Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) Read warnings in OP