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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #392
    [Deleted User]
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Maybe it would be a good thing for healthy people (in isolation) to contract Covid-19, so that our antibodies become acquainted with it, therefore the next time it arrives our immune systems will recognise & destroy it?

    Maybe its a terrible idea too? The kind that might leave you sterilised, if male, or with permanently reduced lung capacity, lifelong kidney issues or even in some cases death. Apart from that sounds great. Highly recommended roller coaster ride.


  • #393
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Do we have any information on whether or not the virus is less likely to last on outdoor surfaces than indoor surfaces? I'm kind of assuming that between wind, rain, ice, direct sunlight, etc that the virus would last for less time outside than indoors? I'm just thinking in terms of leisure activities it might be safer to do things outdoors rather than indoors? Would an outdoor playground be likely to be 'cleaner' than a soft play area? Would outdoor gym equipment be 'cleaner' than equipment in a gym? Would an outdoor skatepark be cleaner than an indoor one? Etc?


  • #394
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    the butcher wrote: »
    First big spike outside the main areas....

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    Certainly hope it is a big spike and not a little spike.


  • #395
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Healthy young people get sick too, the 38 yo healthy sporty Italian man who is considered patient 0 is still in critical conditions
    He was a marathon (or half marathon) runner, and ran while sick. That kind of activity is "healthy" but can lower your immune system allowing the virus to get stuck in more.


  • #396
    [Deleted User]
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    the butcher wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ewnreporter/status/1235534091337990144

    Again traveled to Italy. I don't know about you guys but I believe there's a pattern developing.

    South Africa has a huge AIDS problem. Over 30% in some regions. It'll knock a chunk out of their population


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  • #397
    Hrududu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    Thisonedone wrote: »
    Stupid question here but what is the point of hand washing? You have the virus on your hands so you go to wash your hands, you touch the tap to turn it on, the virus is now on the tap, you wash your hands, the virus is now removed, now you touch the tap to turn it off and so surely the virus is now back on your hands?

    1. Wash hands
    2. Turn off tap either by bopping it with an elbow or grab a paper towel to turn it off

    I have visions of people having similar questions, not being able to come up with a solution and thinking “Ah sure why bother washing them at all?”

    Next phase...zombie apocalypse


  • #398
    the butcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Maybe its a terrible idea too? The kind that might leave you sterilised, if make, or with permanently reduced lung capacity, lifelong kidney issues or even in some cases death.

    People forgetting that yes while 80% of the cases are mild, 20% are not and while most will recover, the damage can be life changing. I really want to see more research/reports on the 20% that recover and the damage.


  • #399
    Crash Bang Wall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    In a scenario where a person contracts this virus,

    If you have been in contact with the person who got infected:

    I get the whole 14 days isolation, to stop the spread, but is there any info on how to get tested, and how long it takes to get results back etc

    Do you isolate for 14 days, then get tested

    Do you get tested after a set number of days

    .....or does the test only work, after symptoms show, rather than straight after you make contact with the person that has it?


  • #400
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where did this person pick it up???

    Western Australia

    a woman in her 30s who returned to the state this week after travelling to Iceland and London, and flying home via Dubai. The woman remains in home isolation.

    https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHXKVWGgV5oaWo8pyEdnXk0qFwgEKg4IACoGCAowl6p7MN-zCTDZ4PsF?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

    There are cases in Iceland transmitted by people returning from Italy. London and UAE have cases too.

    There still may be an Italian connection.


  • #401
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    He was a marathon (or half marathon) runner, and ran while sick. That kind of activity is "healthy" but can lower your immune system allowing the virus to get stuck in more.

    Yup, strenuous exercise that elevates your heart rate is great in normal conditions. But with an illness like this it can be deadly. I exercise a lot so I'm a little paranoid about this.


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  • #402
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    You would think from the time Ireland had to watching how other countries have dealt with the out break. They would have put more proactive than reactive measures in place.

    Italy seem to have been part of the problem, too slow to give firm direction to citizens in the affected areas. Some people observing low contact and others just feckless and spreading it to both locals and visitors.


  • #403
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    The HSE have been utterly dysfunctional for 2 decades. I don't think people really grasp how badly organised and managed it is.
    Well paid managers with zero accountability that cannot be fired even if they add little value or make things worse.
    I don't understand how people expect them to suddenly improve.


  • #404
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Six Nations match postponed


  • #405
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    iguana wrote: »
    Do we have any information on whether or not the virus is less likely to last on outdoor surfaces than indoor surfaces? I'm kind of assuming that between wind, rain, ice, direct sunlight, etc that the virus would last for less time outside than indoors? I'm just thinking in terms of leisure activities it might be safer to do things outdoors rather than indoors? Would an outdoor playground be likely to be 'cleaner' than a soft play area? Would outdoor gym equipment be 'cleaner' than equipment in a gym? Would an outdoor skatepark be cleaner than an indoor one? Etc?

    I believe the virus is estimated to be able to last up to 28 days on a cold 4° metal surface. It's currently 3-4° where I am.


  • #406
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Hrududu wrote: »
    1. Wash hands
    2. Turn off tap either by bopping it with an elbow or grab a paper towel to turn it off

    Or do what Irish people seem to often do in public facilities - just leave the taps running :(


  • #407
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    3 deaths in Spain now of elderly vulnerable people; very disturbing the level of spread already out there.

    https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/03/05/breaking-third-person-dies-in-spain-because-of-coronavirus/


  • #408
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    He was a marathon (or half marathon) runner, and ran while sick. That kind of activity is "healthy" but can lower your immune system allowing the virus to get stuck in more.


    a 38 yo woman, also healthy and no pre-existing conditions was interviewed yesterday by the Italian press, she has been in intensive care for a about a week. There is no guarantee whatsoever that young people are not going to be affected


  • #409
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The HSE have been utterly dysfunctional for 2 decades. I don't think people really grasp how badly organised and managed it is.
    Well paid managers with zero accountability that cannot be fired. I don't understand how people expect them to suddenly improve.
    Not to derail the thread, but that is Ireland in a nutshell.


  • #410
    solidasarock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭solidasarock


    HSE using the irish Gov financial crisis playbook of pretending nothing is wrong while the world burns around them.


  • #411
    branie2
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    laurah591 wrote: »
    3 deaths in Spain now of elderly vulnerable people; very disturbing the level of spread already out there.

    https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/03/05/breaking-third-person-dies-in-spain-because-of-coronavirus/

    Awful


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  • #412
    the butcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    solidasarock wrote: »
    HSE using the irish Gov financial crisis playbook of pretending nothing is wrong while the world burns around them.

    Simon Harris has just announced that Patrick Neary is now our Expert Health Regulator.


  • #413
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    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    BBC News - Crufts goes ahead in Birmingham amid coronavirus outbreak
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51750512

    The annual event has some restrictions in place due to the coronavirus outbreak but is still expected to attract about 26,000 dogs and more than 160,000 people.

    Mini st Patrick's day numbers. Let's see in a week or so how that goes.


  • #414
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    There are cases in Iceland transmitted by people returning from Italy. London and UAE have cases too.

    There still may be an Italian connection.

    Well, they are all connected to China at the end. The thing is, banning flights from Italy is kind of silly at this point because
    a. the virus is in Ireland and spreading,
    b. people fly from all EU locations to Ireland daily and all countries have plenty of cases by now


  • #415
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    the butcher wrote: »
    Simon Harris has just announced that Patrick Neary is now our Expert Health Regulator.

    Not a very helpful comment - posts like this just derail the thread. Why bother posting at all, if there is nothing helpful or factual to say?


  • #416
    quokula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭quokula


    the butcher wrote: »
    First big spike outside the main areas....

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    I see they're still finding ways to exclude previous cases to make the graph look exponential, albeit with a really small y-axis scale which nobody will notice.


  • #417
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    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Well, they are all connected to China at the end. The thing is, banning flights from Italy is kind of silly at this point because
    a. the virus is in Ireland and spreading,
    b. people fly from all EU locations to Ireland daily and all countries have plenty of cases by now

    No it's silly not to ban them. Ban all travel for a couple of weeks, the world won't end if you do. Hmmmmn Are you Michael o Leary?


  • #418
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    And we may add, it's as well we have social media and even local and tabloid media who are prepared to give out real hard information as to where issues are arising. RTE have been utterly useless in their public service broadcasting role in terms of assisting the population to make rational informed decisions.


  • #419
    solidasarock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭solidasarock


    the butcher wrote: »
    Simon Harris has just announced that Patrick Neary is now our Expert Health Regulator.

    Speaking to the press from a sealed glass room while wearing a full hazmat suit, Simon Harris says there is nothing to worry about and the Covid19 hasnt reached pandemic levels in Ireland yet


  • #420
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Not a very helpful comment - posts like this just derail the thread. Why bother posting at all, if there is nothing helpful or factual to say?

    The competence of those in charge at such a time is vital. Obviously it can make a huge difference.


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  • #421
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Deleted User wrote: »
    BBC News - Crufts goes ahead in Birmingham amid coronavirus outbreak
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51750512

    The annual event has some restrictions in place due to the coronavirus outbreak but is still expected to attract about 26,000 dogs and more than 160,000 people.

    Mini st Patrick's day numbers. Let's see in a week or so how that goes.

    It’s reasons like this that however this turns out, it will be worse then it needs to be. Governments saying one thing (accepting this could get very bad and saying its level 4 footing ready) and then allowing these events to continue. Sharp pain now buys us time to really see how this is going to play out. Maybe this is going to blow itself out but if it doesn’t decisions like This are going to be very costly.

    Nobody in authority can say with confidence what’s going to happen but they can see what’s happening in Korea and other countries so they actually have a pretty decent peak into the future of their own countries. And yet they leave the most likely super spreading events to continue. Again, there is a disparity between what governments are saying and the steps they are taking to contain the virus. Completely inconsistent, dysfunctional thinking.


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