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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Allinall wrote: »
    Up 1,200 since Friday.

    It’s all about perspective.

    Dead cat bounce, watch out, below.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.
    My mum had it at Christmas and her symptoms were also identical. But would my dad, brothers, son and I, who were all around her, day in day out have been fine? I had a bad flu a few weeks after but with lots of snot and no coughing, so not the same strain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    owlbethere wrote: »
    ^^ I doubt it was Covid-19 you all had.

    I get the flu jab every year. I escaped all colds this year. Everybody around me got colds except for me. I was sick a few years ago with hayfever and asthma and I was on a lot of steroids. I'm ok now but I do feel colds move into my chest easily. If it was Covid-19 doing the rounds it would have set up camp in my lungs?

    Does the influenza vaccine also provide protection against the common cold?
    My understanding was it just included inoculation against 4 strains of influenza they think will hit that year.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Ok, which one of you visited a wet market in Wuhan late last year, while still coughing?

    We had people in my office from China in earrly December

    I remember asking one of them about an I'll family member........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    pc7 wrote: »
    I wonder will some good come of this, better hygiene (hopefully it’ll stop the manky coughers) and more might get the flu jab. I get it yearly.
    hopefully less people covered in faeces too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    tuxy wrote: »
    Does the influenza vaccine also provide protection against the common cold?
    My understanding was it just included inoculation against 4 strains of influenza they think will hit that year.

    No vaccine exists for the common cold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭Allinall


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Dead cat bounce, watch out, below.....

    Cliche alert.

    Never try to catch a falling bear, or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    She might be right to. Containment could shut down either country's flights during her stay, there could be quarantine measures brought in, she might be stuck at either end for a fortnight. Who knows what's going to happen in the next while?

    Not to mention airplanes at the moment seem like the best small box you could possibly trap yourself in with a virus you want to catch.

    Exposed cases aren't the only carriers, there are asymptomatic people who can also transmit it. Children especially. Imagine all the surfaces you would touch in between Dublin and Chiang Mai. In spite of your best efforts, it will be much more difficult to avoid contact if you're a tourist and obliged to mix with many other travellers.

    If she knows anyone age 60+, she could be responsible for their deaths in the event of transmission.

    It seems like a reasonable response to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Michelinextra.


    What's the story with pets and.the virus

    Do they catch it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    fritzelly wrote: »
    No vaccine exists for the common cold

    Yes it mutates way too fast doesn't it?
    Still, at least the placebo effect works for some.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    tuxy wrote: »
    Does the influenza vaccine also provide protection against the common cold?
    My understanding was it just included inoculation against 4 strains of influenza they think will hit that year.

    The flu vaccine does not cover colds. I got lucky this winter and escaped colds.


    I started on a liposomal vitamin c a few months ago. Iys very good stuff and I put me escaping colds down to that. I get colds easily but just not this winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,397 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    tuxy wrote: »
    Does the influenza vaccine also provide protection against the common cold?
    My understanding was it just included inoculation against 4 strains of influenza they think will hit that year.

    Yep and just those strains. It has only been 45% effective over the last 10 years against the flu strains in circulation. Not going to protect against any other type of virus either.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    theballz wrote: »
    Get a life lads.

    Perhaps yours isn't much of one, and so not much to lose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Allinall wrote: »
    Up 1,200 since Friday.
    It’s all about perspective.
    After the worst week since 2008.
    US markets down about 3% average today, when they should ideally be slightly bullish after a bad week.

    Meanwhile, someone in the uk (last month) bought 23 kilograms of Swiss gold for £949,967, from their mobile phone (as you do).
    The largest private individual purchase such as this, on a mobile device.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    tuxy wrote: »
    Does the influenza vaccine also provide protection against the common cold?
    My understanding was it just included inoculation against 4 strains of influenza they think will hit that year.

    You're correct I get it every year

    That dose I had was not the common cold I was literally walking up at 3am sweating like a pig so taking off the covers but freezing at the same time

    The headache was also epic it was like being delirious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yep and just those strains. It has only been 45% effective over the last 10 years against the flu strains in circulation. Not going to protect against any other type of virus either.

    I'd say that 45% still saves a large number of lives on the global scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Sky2020


    That sounds fair enough to me. If every Tom Dick and Harry came to A&E requesting to be tested because they thought they had it, it would be daft to entertain them all.

    It's not a drive through service.

    I watched today on cnn that SK actually has a drive through test service and everyone can get tested i have a link but i am new here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    What's the story with pets and.the virus

    Do they catch it

    Only if you throw it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    What's the story with pets and.the virus

    Do they catch it

    There was one iffy story about a dog testing positive but I didn't follow it very closely, with one suggestion it had picked it up from an infected surface but wasn't actually infected.

    Supposedly, a false rumour in Wuhan that dogs and cats could be carriers had residents hurling their pets off balconies, but I have no idea if that was true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If it was, it was the oddest flu I've ever seen. At the time I recall reading, and before this Chinese coronavirus that it was another coronovirus, a "common cold". I even recall reading somewhere that Europe got a slightly different strain than was found in the US. Though trying to search for coronavirus online now for info on the Xmas one.... :eek::)

    Interesting how the same symptoms only a month ago would have us sh1tting ourselves if we came down with the exact same bug today. Though my breathing still isn't back to 100% since that Christmas dose. I know two others similar. If we caught the new Made In China dose we'd be in trouble I reckon.

    In China they discovered they could test for the virus by doing chest scans. Coronavirus leaves some sort of honey-comb effect on the tissue of lungs, among other signature traits.

    If you still have remnants of a cough, you could in theory get a scan and they might be able to confirm your hunch.

    I sincerely doubt Covid-19 was loose around Ireland in December though. The place would be in tatters by now.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-what-coronavirus-does-to-the-body/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Dead cat bounce, watch out, below.....

    Hard to say with this crazy volatility, but I would also tend to be on the dead cat bounce side.

    Today’s surprise and large emergency rate cut by the Fed is a very rare event and like a shot of steroids. In normal circumstances it would have trigger a massive surge but it is actually having no effect (small upside initially and afterwards it actually dropped).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    tillyfilly wrote: »

    Could, should, would.

    If stocks tank it's probably a good time to buy, if you are into that kind of thing, and pharma stocks testing a C19 vaccine could explode.

    But it's like going to Paddy Power isn't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Sky2020 wrote: »
    I watched today on cnn that SK actually has a drive through test service and everyone can get tested i have a link but i am new here.
    I really think it has to do with how many test kits those different countries have in stock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    The dog in Hong Kong had been contaminated with the Virus. No pets can catch it but it can live on their bodies for a short amount of time just like any other surface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Why do people feel the need to post every change in the stock markets on a thread about a virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Was it not Argentina today instead of Chile?

    Lol both? Why one or the other?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Could, should, would.

    If stocks tank it's probably a good time to buy, if you are into that kind of thing, and pharma stocks testing a C19 vaccine could explode.

    But it's like going to Paddy Power isn't it.

    we are not at could have , should have , would have yet, there is still time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Sky2020 wrote: »
    I watched today on cnn that SK actually has a drive through test service and everyone can get tested i have a link but i am new here.

    Korea-virus-test.jpg
    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/03/113_285371.html


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