Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

CinemaGuy45

billybonkers wrote: »

Why is the press conference delayed?

NHS website updated toady HSE really busy with the copy and paste.

Wibbs

otnomart wrote: »

If the Spanish victim died on the 13 February, is that now the first autochthonous case in Europe ?
That was well before than:
First Italian case - diagnosed on 20 February
First French case - showing symptoms from 13 February, and diagnosed on 25 February

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

saabsaab

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So why is the temperature of 26c being quoted if its only UV light we need????

I guess that at that air temp, surface temps could be much higher and outer coating would dry up quickly in the open air.

laurah591

Unearthly wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1234926105754308609?s=21

Looks like 9 fatalities in the US now, were all related to that nursing home?

We really need to pray this virus doesnt slip into one of our care homes.

Mwengwe

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu.

I had a dose end of January - very bad, dry cough that I expected to eventually turn into runny nose, head-cold etc but never really did. Other than the cough I was 'fine' though

odyssey06

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So why is the temperature of 26c being quoted if its only UV light we need????

Not sure, but on the UV light aspect:
In the UK, sunlight doesn't contain enough UVB radiation in winter (October to early March) for our skin to be able to make vitamin D.
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-body/how-to-get-vitamin-d-from-sunlight/

Professor Moriarty

laurah591 wrote: »

Looks like 9 fatalities in the US now, were all related to that nursing home?

We really need to pray this virus does slip into one of our care homes.

Doesn't?

gozunda

Beasty wrote: »

It was probably me that did the telling off

But answer a question for me. What possibly could be achieved by trying to avoid identifying actual cases? Do you not realise that to do so simply increases the risks to everyone and would have a much more negative impact on the economy? Basically they would risk it spreading like wildfire and possibly destroying major parts of the economy. What sense would there be in that

Ah you see that presumes there's actual logic and 'sense' being applied to the situation by the state machinery. It doesn't work like that you know! :pac:

tuxy

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So why is the temperature of 26c being quoted if its only UV light we need????

Both heat and UV is bad conditions for a virus to survive, I'm not sure about COVID-19 but we can assume it is like other corona viruses

I'm not sure where it was claimed that temperate does not play a part.

dixiedan

NIMAN wrote: »

I watched the British news at 6 o'clock tonight, and jez they have gone full apocalypse mode.

Talk about ramping up the fear.

Every line in the report was 'if' this happened or 'if' that happened.
Real OTT stuff about all ops being cancelled, retired doctors being asked to come back to work, bringing in the army etc etc.

Looks like they are nearly at DEFCON1.

Are we even at DEFCON5.?

Probably mentioned here before (too many posts to read all), but you really notice how a lot of people don't even take basic precautions out and about...coughing, spluttering sneezing all over the ****ing place!

IAMAMORON

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

I had that phucker at Christmas. Dry cough for a good 3-4 days with temperature and not much nasal action. Was done for a good week from Christmas Eve until New years eve.

Loafing Oaf

saabsaab wrote: »

I guess that at that air temp, surface temps could be much higher and outer coating would dry up quickly in the open air.

We'd be lucky to get a sustained period at that temperature or above (as would the Brits):eek:

tillyfilly

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Unearthly

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

Well I'd have to see stats of pneumonia deaths in Ireland compared to 12 months ago and other years

If there was a large spike then maybe but I reckon we would have copped onto it if it's been spreading since Christmas

laurah591

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

I doubt it's going round Irl since Xmas/New Year, we'd have witnessed an higher fatalities amongst our elderly (people who have had flu vac ect),

stephenjmcd

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

Yeah to be honest I'd be the same myself. Middle of Jan to early feb, the whole office seemed to have some sort of dose.

Myself it was a few days feeling like a head cold and just tired but the cough lasted about 3 weeks. Just couldn't get rid of it.

Put it down to a normal cold but like yourself if it happened now I'd probably be onto the GP.

But all highly likely to be a cold given our weird weather at the time

odyssey06

Just having the same conversation now about the dose of dry cough\fever\body aches with no runny nose\sneezing that was doing the rounds in the run up to Chirstmas. Both myself and the OH had it... didn't seem like a usual cold or flu.

otnomart

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people?

Hopefully the researchers will tell us eventually.
Genomic evidence suggests that #COVID19 has been circulating in the US since Jan 15 https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/

gmisk

tuxy wrote: »

It's going to be used as the main excuse for anyone not wanting to turn up to something.


https://www.thesun.ie/news/5162995/case-court-adjourned-man-suspected-coronavirus-isolation/

I wouldn't give that rag a click, thanks though.

jackboy

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc.

Interesting. It probably wasn’t covid 19 but I wonder does anyone know what it was. It was definitely an unusual widespread illness. However, it did not seem severe on older people. It seemed to be worse on middle aged people.

laurah591

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Doesn't?

sorry typo

tuxy

jackboy wrote: »

Interesting. It probably wasn’t covid 19 but I wonder does anyone know what it was. It was definitely an unusual widespread illness. However, it did not seem severe on older people. It seemed to be worse on middle aged people.

I'm fairly sure it was a strain of influenza possibly one we had not had before.

dan786

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234928542452011009?s=20

Stheno

Wibbs wrote: »

If the virus was here that early could that "bug" that was doing the rounds in Christmas/New Year have been it, at least in some people? Put it another way I caught it, along with a few friends and family and the symptom list was very similar to what is being advised for Covid 19. IE fever, headache, fatigue, cough - about the biggest symptom I noticed among people with it(and two people I know still have the hint of a cough a month on) - and no upper respiratory involvement, no runny nose, stuffed up sinuses etc. Also, the severity of symptoms varied. In one household I know out of five people, three got it, one quite badly, two didn't(the youngest kids). Even at the time it felt like a different dose to the usual snots and blocked nose "common cold" and nothing like a flu. I know that if I came down with it today I'd be onto the GP and concern would be high enough.

I was thinking the same Wibbs had the same dose, mad sweats while feeling cold, mental cough that lasted an age, wrecked tired though blamed a very heavy workload for that, headache but no sinussy shots like it usually get with the cold I normally come down with.

It lingered a couple of weeks

Cuckoo7

I read somewhere that this winter flu strain was “stronger” than other years’.
I think we would have noticed and increment on fatalities if it was the coronavirus.

smallgarden

Cases of flu and deaths definitely were higher this year so I think a possibility. Maybe a new strain which mutated into a more serious version
httpss://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/flu-outbreak-linked-to-18-deaths-and-strain-on-emergency-departments-1.4125414

stephenjmcd

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

I read somewhere that this winter flu strain was “stronger” than other years’.
I think we would have noticed and increment on fatalities if it was the coronavirus.

There was another strain this year alright.

Got the flu jab in November I think it was and the nurse said there was another strain added in this year.

Australian flu I think she said

wakka12

3 more cases in Iceland, 11 there now. Quite a lot for a tiny country with a population the size of Cork city

fr336

God people love scaremongering on Twitter don't they...pretty much every tweet. They're loving it.

tuxy

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

I read somewhere that this winter flu strain was “stronger” than other years’.
I think we would have noticed and increment on fatalities if it was the coronavirus.

It was responsible for 18 deaths by 27th December and possibly more after that date.

It would be some major negligence even by the HSE's standard to not identify what it was. At the time they said it was influenza and I believe them.