Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Funsterdelux · 03-03-2020 02:27PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

That’s not quite true, benny.

Depending on the surface, the virus can last up to 9 days.

Link to how long the virus can live on different surface types: https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

You can also see the efficacy of different cleaning agents against the virus on the table below it.

My OH ordered some Hydrogen Peroxide yesterday, it came today. We've been using alot the past few months for cleaning, great stuff, gets the taps really shiny. Looks like a good minute of it will work.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 03-03-2020 02:28PM

JDD wrote: »

That young fella had a suspected case on Saturday evening (it was definitely online by 9pm) and I presume it takes a few hours for test results to come through. If he got his "suspected positive test" early Saturday morning, I'd be pretty miffed at the HSE at letting him off to band practice. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if they had told him not to.

England and Scotland have emergency powers to enforce quarantine if they had to. Do we have the same powers here? I suspect not.

I think the guidelines say that any suspected cases being tested should self isolate until results are known, test results take 1 - 2 days AFAIK but that could be wrong.

So either the tests are much faster, or the HSE aren't following their own guidelines or the person decided not to follow them.

Effects · 03-03-2020 02:29PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yup see my latest post, show me the money :rolleyes:

I doubled down as I knew the facts. It's time for you to pay up now. :rolleyes:

If you don't know what you're talking about then you need to refrain from spreading misinformation.

pc7 · 03-03-2020 02:29PM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

There's no sign of panic buying because outside of this thread the vast vast majority of people are not that bothered by it all.

While people shouldn't be all consumed or worried, the amount of dirty animals still opening coughing all over the place is freaking disgusting. Get with the hygiene people.

laurah591 · 03-03-2020 02:29PM

JDD wrote: »

That young fella had a suspected case on Saturday evening (it was definitely online by 9pm) and I presume it takes a few hours for test results to come through. If he got his "suspected positive test" early Saturday morning, I'd be pretty miffed at the HSE at letting him off to band practice. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if they had told him not to.

England and Scotland have emergency powers to enforce quarantine if they had to. Do we have the same powers here? I suspect not.

I agree jdd, im wondering was the letter doctored or some clerical error letter which caused the initial back track... shocking if completely genuine

As an aside we have legacy legislation in place originally for TB which covers forced quarantines if needs be .... it covers notifiable illness's (cov-19 is)

JDD · 03-03-2020 02:31PM

Juliette Clever Tear wrote: »

I think the guidelines say that any suspected cases being tested should self isolate until results are known, test results take 1 - 2 days AFAIK but that could be wrong.

So either the tests are much faster, or the HSE aren't following their own guidelines or the person decided not to follow them.

Well that's a load of me b*ll**ks. We've only got one confirmed case. Can we not make sure that ONE person doesn't go wandering off all over the place? Jesus wept. I might move over to the UK until July. I hate Johnson, but they at least appear to have some sort of f**king plan.

stephenjmcd · 03-03-2020 02:31PM

Effects wrote: »

I doubled down as I knew the facts. It's time for you to pay up now. :rolleyes:

If you don't know what you're talking about then you need to refrain from spreading misinformation.

Sorry but every journalist was reporting it was a hoax so not exactly anyone on here spreading misinformation.

Thats up to the HSE and the department of health to know what the left and right hand are doing

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1234832484208128000

MarkY91 · 03-03-2020 02:32PM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

There's no sign of panic buying because outside of this thread the vast vast majority of people are not that bothered by it all.

100%.

Since I started to check this thread a little less, in realising that aside form th odd coronavirus chit chat, literally nothing changed.

Some people here are acting like the bubonic plague is ascending upon Ireland.

Tacitus Kilgore · 03-03-2020 02:33PM

JDD wrote: »

That young fella had a suspected case on Saturday evening (it was definitely online by 9pm) and I presume it takes a few hours for test results to come through. If he got his "suspected positive test" early Saturday morning, I'd be pretty miffed at the HSE at letting him off to band practice. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if they had told him not to.

England and Scotland have emergency powers to enforce quarantine if they had to. Do we have the same powers here? I suspect not.

https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-symptoms-5024090-Mar2020/

third sentence from the end.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 03-03-2020 02:36PM

JDD wrote: »

Well that's a load of me b*ll**ks. We've only got one confirmed case. Can we not make sure that ONE person doesn't go wandering off all over the place? Jesus wept. I might move over to the UK until July. I hate Johnson, but they at least appear to have some sort of f**king plan.

Who knows, maybe they weren't told to stay put, maybe they were told to minimise contact like the other students were alleged to be told.

HSE say 'Avoid contact with other people by self-isolating' if you are feeling unwell and you've been to an affected area or in contact with a confirmed case.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/advice-for-people-returning-from-affected-areas.html

They also say carry on as normal if you don't have symptoms.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 03-03-2020 02:37PM

Does anyone know what the rules are for being tested.

I am aware of a case where a man who works in an Italian speaking business in Dublin who comes into close contact with a large number of Italian people on a daily basis is suffering what appears to be a bad flu (with symptoms such as coughing and high fever).

The HSE refused to test him.

Effects · 03-03-2020 02:37PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sorry but every journalist was reporting it was a hoax so not exactly anyone on here spreading misinformation.

Thats up to the HSE and the department of health to know what the left and right hand are doing

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1234832484208128000

I know Gav, he's a nice guy. I'm sure he knew it wasn't a hoax, but couldn't report on it due to conflicting information from the health board.

But you should know yourself that the DOH and HSE can't communicate properly.

SeaBreezes · 03-03-2020 02:40PM

Steve F wrote: »

Worth a watch when you have time.WHO press update yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4rW3QFiuN8&list=LLripjHu9ipe42m93N5-z1YQ

Thank you their reports are really informative.
Contain the spread slow it down no system can cope when overloaded.
Aggressive containment is our best bet.

dan786 · 03-03-2020 02:40PM

Britain's health minister says there are 51 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK, up from 39 yesterday.

Earlier, the government unveiled its "battle plan" to tackle the spread of coronavirus, warning that as many as a fifth of employees could be off work at the peak of the outbreak.

"As of 9am today there were 51 confirmed cases in the UK and it is becoming more likely we will see widespread transmission here in this country," Mr Hancock told the House of Commons.

stephenjmcd · 03-03-2020 02:40PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know what the rules are for being tested.

I am aware of a case where a man who works in an Italian speaking business in Dublin who comes into close contact with a large number of Italian people on a daily basis is suffering what appears to be a bad flu (with symptoms such as coughing and high fever).

The HSE refused to test him.

Would need to have recent travel history to an effected region.

Apart from that could just be a bad flu / head cold

JDD · 03-03-2020 02:41PM

This fella must have had symptoms, otherwise he wouldn't have been tested.

How is wandering off to band practice "avoiding contact with others"? There's no way this isn't a breach of the HSE advice. Whether it was the HSE that dropped the ball, or the patient, who knows.

This is, I guess, a good reason why they don't give identifying information. This fella might not have had his test until Saturday afternoon, or maybe some HSE goon told him band practice was fine as long as he didn't cough on anyone. But some people will jump to the conclusion that he deliberately breached HSE advice and nutters can get all panicky about that sort of stuff.

ChikiChiki · 03-03-2020 02:42PM

dan786 wrote: »

Britain's health minister says there are 51 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK, up from 39 yesterday.

Earlier, the government unveiled its "battle plan" to tackle the spread of coronavirus, warning that as many as a fifth of employees could be off work at the peak of the outbreak.

"As of 9am today there were 51 confirmed cases in the UK and it is becoming more likely we will see widespread transmission here in this country," Mr Hancock told the House of Commons.

A good realistic statement.

Goldengirl · 03-03-2020 02:43PM

Effects wrote: »

I doubled down as I knew the facts. It's time for you to pay up now. :rolleyes:

If you don't know what you're talking about then you need to refrain from spreading misinformation.

You have been vindicated , Effects.
But no point blaming him, when the official lines of information can't get it right!

laurah591 · 03-03-2020 02:43PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know what the rules are for being tested.

I am aware of a case where a man who works in an Italian speaking business in Dublin who comes into close contact with a large number of Italian people on a daily basis is suffering what appears to be a bad flu (with symptoms such as coughing and high fever).

The HSE refused to test him.

Regardless of whether he gets a test..,. i hope he is self isolating to get better and not still at work

CIARAN_BOYLE · 03-03-2020 02:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Would need to have recent travel history to an effected region.

Apart from that could just be a bad flu / head cold

Deals with 20+ Italians a day and doesn't know their travel history. He doesn't know if they have it.

I can't see why you wouldn't test him.

laurah591 wrote: »

Regardless of whether he gets a test..,. i hope he is self isolating to get better and not still at work

He is. His partner did today but is seeing the refusal to test as permission not to self isolate going forward.

Fleetwoodmac · 03-03-2020 02:45PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

My OH ordered some Hydrogen Peroxide yesterday, it came today. We've been using alot the past few months for cleaning, great stuff, gets the taps really shiny. Looks like a good minute of it will work.

Relieved to see hydrogen peroxide on the list...We've used it for years. Easily bought too.

Nijmegen · 03-03-2020 02:45PM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

There's no sign of panic buying because outside of this thread the vast vast majority of people are not that bothered by it all.

I'm familiar with businesses that are already hard hit by the impacts, related to the travel and tourism industry. Plus all those companies shutting their offices. I'd say there's plenty of signs of people being bothered by it, but thankfully nothing like panic.

Loafing Oaf · 03-03-2020 02:47PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

As evidenced by this post, I'm convinced that the toll on people's mental health is going to be worse or as bad as the virus itself. As an OCD sufferer, this is ALWAYS my thought process ('everything could be contaminated') and now we have vast swathes of the population thinking like this. And once these thoughts creep in, it's almost impossible to get rid of them, even after the 'threat' has passed. A lot of these people are never going to be able to go back to thinking 'normally' again.

My mental health is fine, than you very much, or no worse than normal. I think I would prefer to go through the rest of my life worrying about picking up germs from door handles than contract a life-threatening pneumonia-type illness...

the butcher · 03-03-2020 02:49PM

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728

Researchers think that covid19 crosses the blood brain barrier and in at least some cases, and perhaps chronically, is also a neurological disorder that in cases has literally caused people to forget to breathe due to brain damage.

Paper also points out that masks would be effective if covid19 has neuroinvasive potential (Because it can go through the olfactory bulb/nerves into the brain).

Must stress that they reported that SARS & MERS (sister / cousin viruses) can get into the central nervous system & they say that maybe Covid19 can too.

Cilldara_2000 · 03-03-2020 02:50PM

Everyone seems to agree that confidence in public authorities is key in actual pandemic situations. If we reach that, how many people have any confidence in the HSE and government here? Mine is lessening by the hour.

Why was this kid allowed to go to band practice after he was tested?

Why did it take them ~two days (IE from positive result on Saturday to some stage yesterday - the "hoax-not-a-hoax" letter is dated yesterday) to contact the parents of the other children from the band?

Pat Kenny had some expert or other on yesterday morning. PK asked the reasonable question: how can you contact trace people on public transport. The expert sidestepped the question. In relation to the NI case, we still don't know how many people were contacted.

They've hung their hats entirely on contact tracing. The experience so far shows that the contact tracing is pretty poor.

owlbethere · 03-03-2020 02:50PM

laurah591 wrote: »

Regardless of whether he gets a test..,. i hope he is self isolating to get better and not still at work

I know the guidelines are to self isolate but the post says the HSE are refusing to test him. Why should he self isolate for a fortnight when it could be a just a cold? Surely testing would confirm if it's Covid-19 or not.

Call Me Jimmy · 03-03-2020 02:51PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

100%.

Since I started to check this thread a little less, in realising that aside form th odd coronavirus chit chat, literally nothing changed.

Some people here are acting like the bubonic plague is ascending upon Ireland.

Aye I get the feeling. Look out the window and the sun is shining. On the other hand two countries with ~4000 cases declared war on it after just a couple of weeks.

So it doesn't change overnight, more like 2 -4 weeks.

TheMilkyPirate · 03-03-2020 02:51PM

Woman on radio now with in her words "no underlying health conditions and generally healthy" has cancelled her holiday to Thailand over Covid-19 fears. Not a hope in hell would I be doing that. Madness.

saabsaab · 03-03-2020 02:52PM

It's not just the responsibility of the DOH or HSE. There needs to be a 'Cobra' style multi Departmental agency to deal with this on a day to day / hour to hour basis. A Covid 19 'War room' until the crisis is over.

Are flights still coming in from Italy?

Any update on number of tests carried out yet?

Nijmegen · 03-03-2020 02:52PM

The HSE really are a joke. And we haven't even got to the stage where they need to manage the public health crisis.

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP