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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #2492
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Conrad Modern Drummer wrote: »
    In fairness the HSE seem pretty confident that the chances of more cases is low, maybe they got to the infected case quickly.

    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Post of the day.

    I have posted a number of funny posts but the one above just proves it is quality not quantity that counts.


  • #2493
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    gozunda wrote: »
    Shooting people apparently...

    https://www.independent.ng/coronavirus-north-koreas-first-confirmed-patient-shot-dead/

    Not confirmed btw ...

    I've seen this mentioned a few times, the North Koreans are not shooting their fellow folk because of infection, I seen a link when the story first came around a few weeks ago. It was one of Kim's generals who contracted the infection and was shot because he disobeyed quarantine orders by going to a public baths and possibly infecting everyone there too,the punishment, probably a little too extreme but that's North Korea for you.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #2494
    je551e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭je551e


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It seems close proximity, body contact, sharing food/utensils/items like books, spreads it extremely effectively, churches, buffets/restaurants and places where people are in close contact like ships/prisons/families at home/small workplace businesses, seem to be the main points of emergence of clusters

    Incidental exposure between completely strangers and picking up from surfaces seems less common, otherwise I think there would be even more cases

    Thanks wasn’t really sure about how people were contracting it


  • #2495
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    jackboy wrote: »
    There are different rules for vaccines compared to drug treatments.

    Swine flu vaccine was a vaccine not a treatment . Pandemrix


  • #2496
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Kerry25x wrote: »
    It's spread by droplets in the air so you have a good chance of breathing it if you're in the same room. Washing your hands will help though.

    This is not true. it is not an airborne virus. more misinformation,


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  • #2497
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    This was the argument being used when it was big in China but nowhere else and cases in other countries were isolated and people who had travelled from China.

    Today we have several advanced countries like South Korea, Italy and Germany where the spread is taking off in similar fashions. We have no reason to believe that the spread will not occur this way in Ireland. And we have examples from China and Iran about the scale of what occurs if you do not address the situation early and robustly. So I would say people are very justified to take this seriously and we should be implementing significant efforts per some of the research linked earlier in the thread, which shows that you can stem it if you act fast and act big.

    Yeh I dont get the thinking that because it hasnt happened here that it wont. Who would have thought that Italy and Iran would have over a thousand cases each in a few days last week, there is nothing unique about them that made them any more likely than any other country for an epidemic of those scales to emerge, all it shows is that it can happen anywhere and it can happen extremely quickly. Like Washington will be the next spot of a major epidemic, another completely random and unlikely place


  • #2498
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ it has been said five or six times in this thread he was with his folks not on any school trip.

    What happened attention spans?
    i didn't read the whole thread, its very long, relax


  • #2499
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    gmisk wrote: »
    I was thinking more the non English language signage....but sure

    Left hand trolley is classic though some very funny posts here tonight!


  • #2500
    je551e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭je551e


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    This is not true. it is not an airborne virus. more misinformation,

    Ok thanks what viruses were/are airborne?


  • #2501
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Reading this thread, I feel like I'm in a minority who's not freaking out about this.

    I'm old eneogh to remember when the internet broke in the early 90s , the best bit of advice I got , was when sick never put your symptoms in a search engine , cause you wont have long to live.

    We have one case in Ireland , and people are acting as if its an impending Ebola breakout - people will die from this , sadly , but if you take care , excercise/ dont smoke / eat healty your immune system should fight it - the big fear is pneumania , which colds and flu can also cause - Panicing will cause anxiety which will probably reduce your immune system/ increase cases of OCD and other mental issues (anxiety/depression) and cause shortages for those that really need them - over and out.


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  • #2502
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Mid term break for a lot of secondary schools was the week before last. He's probably back since last weekend, ready for school on Monday.


    so he was possibly in school this week?


  • #2503
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    This is not true. it is not an airborne virus. more misinformation,

    It is airborne in so far as if someone nearby with the virus sneezes and droplets land on you then you can be infected.


  • #2504
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    expectationlost wrote: »
    i didn't read the whole thread, its very long, relax

    Sorry not having a go at you but at the whole population you just know every kind of disinformation is going to spread.


  • #2505
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    In 2009 during the Swine Flu outbreak, I was living in the UK and took a temporary weekend job with a contractor for The National Pandemic Flu Service. I sat in a call centre and took calls from people who answered a questionnaire about their symptoms and if they answered in a particular way, we issued them a prescription for Tamiflu (Oseltamivir). As Oseltamivir is an anti-retroviral it, and other anti-retrovirals being used in China as a treatment for Covid-19, with a decent rate of success in helping with recovery. I wonder if we are going to see something similar happen again.

    The National Pandemic Flu Service was a big bust in terms of the fact that it was unnecessarily large (I took a call an hour for the first few weeks and half that until the service pretty much folded after another month.) But this time around, something similar might actually be helpful.


  • #2506
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭ooter


    it has probably already been said on here but a guy on newstalk on Friday morning said you would need to be in close contact (less than a meter) with someone with the disease for 15 mins or more, you won't catch it from walking past someone on the street.


  • #2507
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It is airborne in so far as if someone nearby with the virus sneezes and droplets land on you then you can be infected.

    Droplet born is probably more appropriate


  • #2508
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    je551e wrote: »
    Ok thanks what viruses were/are airborne?
    There are many i'm sure. Influenza for one, Covid- 19 is not.


  • #2509
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    tuxy wrote: »
    That has replacable filters. Which ones are rated to stop a virus?

    Well since the eyes are not protected I am not sure if this would be also how small particles get through


  • #2510
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    Droplet born is probably more appropriate

    Still, the droplet flies through the air. Michael O'Leary has a lot to answer for.


  • #2511
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It is airborne in so far as if someone nearby with the virus sneezes and droplets land on you then you can be infected.

    That's not how it's defined though and only serves to sow more fear.
    you could say concussion is airborne if someone ****ed a brick at your head!


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  • #2512
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    I don't know much about this virus.

    When I heard about the woman who came through Dublin I just thought if she had any clue she might be infected she shouldn't have got public transport to Belfast, maybe she didn't have symptoms.

    I also think the HSE were not giving strong enough advice, people coming from infected areas should have been told to keep away from school, work, public transport and big events.

    I think responsible people should be gauging what's best for themselves and act accordingly. Not depend on HSE for common sense advice. That's just my opinion.


  • #2513
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    expectationlost wrote: »
    so he was possible in school this week?

    Correct and very very likely.

    A work colleague has a daughter in 2nd year.

    The family are self isolating for the next 2 weeks.


  • #2514
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    drkpower wrote: »
    Sure it would reduce the numbers but the reality is you can’t stop it.

    I think the public health experts who deal with the spread of infectious disease every day, on all of our behalf’s, are managing it 100pc correctly; banning flights from one current hotspot is just a plaster on a gushing wound. Resources are better spent on contact tracing and close management of those. Next week there will be another hotspot, and then another; the implication of your approach will rapidly be a complete travel ban; of course that is a theoretical approach but the psychological and economic effect is potentially very significant without any reasonable prospect of stopping the spread to Ireland.
    As it happens, it is patently clear that a northern Italy travel ban would not have prevented either car in the island of Ireland from happening
    So if it will reduce the numbers why not do it?
    We are going to get more cases if we can reduce this and slow things down it would make sense.

    American and Delta have announced they are stopping flights to and from Milan today.
    Other countries e.g. Israel are banning entry to anyone has even visited Italy in the last 14 days.
    I am not saying we need to go to that extreme but if we can reduce the number of cases we should try and do something.


  • #2515
    Nijmegen
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    ooter wrote: »
    it has probably already been said on here but a guy on newstalk on Friday morning said you would need to be in close contact (less than a meter) with someone with the disease for 15 mins or more, you won't catch it from walking past someone on the street.

    Which is why one 38 year old man in Italy was identified as having spread it to dozens of people and been the start of a chain that is now accelerating at the same rate seen in China.

    I think that people downplaying this are as much silly as those who say it’s gonna wipe out humanity.


  • #2516
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    That's not how it's defined though and only serves to sow more fear.
    you could say concussion is airborne if someone ****ed a brick at your head!

    The brick is airborne in this scenario, concussion is the outcome of it cracking you in the head.


  • #2517
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Sorry not having a go at you but at the whole population you just know every kind of disinformation is going to spread.
    I was asking a question not spreading disinformation


  • #2518
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    You know if Italy had taken more precautions with people flying in from China our school trips wouldn't have been left open to infection.

    If the HSE had taken more precautions with school trips flying in from northern Italy, our schools wouldn't have been left open to infection.

    If the government currently took more precaution with families of people of those schools, then Dublin would not be left open to infection.

    Everybody could see this was going to happen. I said it a week ago. It is not fking rocket science.

    Great its just Dublin the rest of us are fine things THANK GOD. :rolleyes:


  • #2519
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    ooter wrote: »
    it has probably already been said on here but a guy on newstalk on Friday morning said you would need to be in close contact (less than a meter) with someone with the disease for 15 mins or more, you won't catch it from walking past someone on the street.
    Would be interested who said that.

    I don't know how helpful that really is have you ever got public transport before in Ireland?...


  • #2520
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    I don't know much about the virus

    What????

    It's been front page of all the papers, first item on news (tv & radio) for weeks.

    If you think you might have it, stay at home and ring HSE / GP for advice .

    Don't go outside and mix with people.

    Edit: go onto HSE website...don't ring HSE / GP

    Apologies for mis information


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  • #2521
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    There are many i'm sure. Influenza for one, Covid- 19 is not.

    How IS it spread then ..


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